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Post by Cyonan on Sept 8, 2016 15:28:33 GMT
On the idea of playing the sibling, I would personally rather just create my own character and play only that character.
I suppose it could work if they did it like The Witcher 3 where you play as Ciri during sort of "flashback" sequences to fill in the story of what happened when she was there before Geralt got there. However, I'd rather not see extended gameplay as a character other than the one I created in a game like this.
If the father is supposed to have been on duty most of the time I really hope there isn't forced daddy issues and I can choose to have my character just shrug that off.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 8, 2016 15:29:55 GMT
I agree with Cyonan. So far though it doesn't seem really that we'll play both, expecially for long periods, based on how Walters stated the news.
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Post by drummerchick on Sept 8, 2016 15:31:28 GMT
Oh dear. I thought N7 cowboy guy was kinda hot and mysterious (and knew he wasn't the pc). Talk about Ryder having daddy issues.
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Post by Fiery Phoenix on Sept 8, 2016 15:32:42 GMT
So similar to DA2. I guess I don't mind, but hopefully the execution is competent.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:34:24 GMT
I swear, if Cerberus turns up in Andromeda…. Thankfully, I've gotten impression that they don't want to retread old ground and Cerberus did end up having a large part in Mass Effect so I don't think there's much chance for that even with what the leaked survey said. That's not to say that I don't mind the idea of xenophobia and pro-human ideas in the game, I just really, really don't want to see Cerberus and I especially don't want to see Cerberus be the figure for those ideas because they have waaay too much baggage attached to be the way of exploring or showing said ideas.
I'd rather have people like Ashley where the xenophobic tinge to her seemed realistic given the history of humanity in Mass Effect and that it was likely down in her Family due to what happened.
This is basically what I think of when I consider the possibility of Cerberus having a return or appearance in Andromeda:
i.imgur.com/aIaFk.gif?noredirect
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:38:03 GMT
Heh, the good news is that there will be no companions with daddy issues but the bad news and catch is that Ryder will have all the daddy issues.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 8, 2016 15:38:41 GMT
I'm hoping for that but only for the latter. I'll repost what I've said in the CSI thread:
I sincerely hope the N7 is not like Kai Leng. I'd rather they be sympathic in their motivation: they might steal technology from the Andromeda races but they'll do it because they believe it is necessary for the survival of the Milky races. Basically, a character that does what they do because of percieved necessity rather than spite or desiring superiority for them or their race.
We've had pro-human antagonists; now I'd like something else. I feel an antagonist that is motivated by necessity could help show the desperation and danger there sometimes lie in the colonisation of strange new land especially when returning to old land is not an option. We can have a sympathic antagonist and we can have a villanous antagonist in the same story; the sympathic antagonist can exemplify desperation and the villanous antagonist can exemplify danger. If we go by the supposed leak then there is a seemingly villanous faction of aliens and a non-villanous faction of aliens so this would not go right over into Unfortunate Implications.
I swear, if Cerberus turns up in Andromeda…. Cerberus is an idea. And ideas can't be killed Plus it's Mac Walters.
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Post by Spectr61 on Sept 8, 2016 15:40:23 GMT
How long until we have to make a "moral" choice between the two siblings?
Not to mention the father.
Plus, skeptical me, I can barely even stomach hearing Walters talk...
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:53:55 GMT
How long until we have to make a "moral" choice between the two siblings? Not to mention the father. Plus, skeptical me, I can barely even stomach hearing Walters talk... Ehhh, we are one of the siblings and because of that, it would not sound so bad in terms of story potential if there were an option to sacrifice ourselves or an option wherein we exchange ourselves for them. I feel I should emphasis option when it came to sacrifice because it seems being sacrificed is somehow often mistaken for self-sacrifice.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Sept 8, 2016 15:57:12 GMT
Heh, the good news is that there will be no companions with daddy issues but the bad news and catch is that Ryder will have all the daddy issues. Don't underestimate the number of people who can have daddy issues, especially in fictional works. And if we expand the discussion to include every kind of family issue, well, I think that 99% of characters would be probably involved.
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Post by kali073 on Sept 8, 2016 16:00:17 GMT
I don't know what's so wrong about any of that if it's done well. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> A tragedy is OK if done well? In real life, no, but this is fiction. In fiction tragedy can be fun/interesting depending on how it's done. The problem is usually doing it well.
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Post by Spectr61 on Sept 8, 2016 16:01:31 GMT
Yes, but BW has a long track record of either/or moral choices.
I expectct more to follow, even a self-sacrifice by sacrificing one's own sibling or family member.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 16:04:23 GMT
Yes, but BW has a long track record of either/or moral choices. I expectct more to follow, even a self-sacrifice by sacrificing one's own sibling or family member. That... really wouldn't be a self-sacrifice since you are sacrificing someone else.
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Post by PCthug on Sept 8, 2016 16:14:14 GMT
Anyone else getting the vibe that the Ryder's are going to be twins?
My only complaint so far is I wish we could choose the gender of Ryder's sibling. It would add a lot of replay potential.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 16:20:00 GMT
Anyone else getting the vibe that the Ryder's are going to be twins? My only complaint so far is I wish we could choose the gender of Ryder's sibling. It would add a lot of replay potential. Yup, fraternal twins do make sense for them to do. That or leave it for the players to headcanon if one is older.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 8, 2016 16:23:45 GMT
An italian site actually stated they're twins, heterozygous. Not sure where they found this info since I don't think Walters said that, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 16:26:35 GMT
An italian site actually stated they're twins, heterozygous. Not sure where they found this info since I don't think Walters said that, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. Interesting although they couldn't very well be identical twins since they have different genders.
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Post by Petroshenko on Sept 8, 2016 16:28:36 GMT
Someone made a good point that this slibling premise gives them the perfect reasoning to put both male and female models on the cover:
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Post by Ahriman on Sept 8, 2016 16:28:58 GMT
An italian site actually stated they're twins, heterozygous. *Lannisters intensify* I don't care personally. Don't think it changes anything, even if they are not twins their age is not so different.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 8, 2016 16:29:28 GMT
An italian site actually stated they're twins, heterozygous. Not sure where they found this info since I don't think Walters said that, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. Interesting although they couldn't very well be identical twins since they have different genders. Yeah, another thing that makes me a bit uncertain about this info. I'm fine either way about the sibling being older/younger/twin, anyway.
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Post by Petroshenko on Sept 8, 2016 16:31:07 GMT
Twins would just make more sense. Same birthday and goes well with character creator script (assuming the opposite-gender sibling is automatically generated based on primary sex customization)
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Post by themikefest on Sept 8, 2016 16:45:11 GMT
It was dad in the first trailer. He has a son and daughter who the main player will play. What role is mommy going to have? Will she be the human councilor in Andromeda? Maybe she died of whatever. Don't know.
Does daddy know Shepard? Maybe by name, but have they ever met? Will he be the one in the game to be making references to Shepard? Will he be in charge of the Tempest and be the one assigning his son/daughter to missions?
Are there going to be any other family members in the game. How about having a grandmother who always nags at her son for being reckless and telling the main character, Ryder, how their father got into all kinds of mischief when he was a little boy. Will she bake some cookies for Ryder to eat after a mission?
Why not call the game ME: A Family Story?
To find these answers to these questions and others, stay tuned to this thread for the answers will be revealed in time.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 8, 2016 16:46:40 GMT
It was dad in the first trailer. He has a son and daughter who the main player will play. What role is mommy going to have? Will she be the human councilor in Andromeda? Maybe she died of whatever. Don't know. Does daddy know Shepard? Maybe by name, but have they ever met? Will he be the one in the game to be making references to Shepard? Will he be in charge of the Tempest and be the one assigning his son/daughter to missions? Are there going to be any other family members in the game. How about having a grandmother who always nags at her son for being reckless and telling the main character, Ryder, how their father got into all kinds of mischief when he was a little boy. Will she bake some cookies for Ryder to eat after a mission? Why not call the game ME: A Family Story? To find these answers to these questions and others, stay tuned to this thread for the answers will be revealed in time. They said they revealed the full Ryder family, so there won't be other family members. The mother will be likely dead, I think.
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Post by Petroshenko on Sept 8, 2016 16:48:25 GMT
There's gonna be enough daddy/sis/bro issues to last for the entire trilogy with just 2 family members, plz no more. Mom cheated with Batarian smuggler and stayed in MW
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 16:51:21 GMT
I wonder if dad is a biotic. He dosen't seem to be based on what we've seen of him but granted, that wasn't much. It could be interesting if he has dialogue about Ryder being or not being a biotic especially if he himself is or is not one.
I think him being a biotic would depend upon his age, though, since the first human biotics were born as a result of a series of starship accidents in 2150s that exposed the people to eezo in utero. Probably also depend upon Ryder's age.
Dang it, I'm getting the cutest images of Ryder's dad teaching his biotic kid or playing with his kids using his biotics. He would be great at fetching things from trees and roofs.
Note: I'm terrible at math.
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