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Post by simtam on May 13, 2017 4:42:57 GMT
Really don't mind if you play HZD and it makes you feel better. Regarding scanner, you're complaining about the feature that was not copied from TW3 - there is an overlap, but it is in those Andromeda quests where you follow wires hidden behind walls (for example), not in scanning objects for 'research points'. Also, please don't talk about Skyrim enemies being tied to "level design" in the context of the overworld combat encounters; surely you don't mean to say that they are tied to the PC level. Separated regions in open world games are caused by said games happening on remote islands, planets, or just in distant lands, and for a good reason. The first planet in Andromeda is sci-fi for sure, and it's enough to have one sci-fi planet to label the collection of them as sci-fi, what don't you understand.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 8:46:05 GMT
Another gripe I have is every world I go to I need to activate 3 fricking monoliths and a vault grrrrr >___>
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Post by vallixas on May 14, 2017 6:12:28 GMT
If they copied Witcher 3, Andromeda would be the most critically acclaimed rpg of this generation thus far instead of the biggest rpg flop of this generation with perhaps the worst writing for dialogue I have seen in a western game by a triple A dev so far. 'My face is tired' lol. Don't get me started on most of the cast especially Liam who is without a doubt one of the worst written companions i've ever experienced in an rpg.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 14, 2017 6:19:14 GMT
What separates Andromeda and Witcher 3 is writing and characters. Witcher 3 was very well written while Andromeda was all over the place. We won't even get into things like animation. Witcher 3 combat was indeed so-so, but the story and characters were strong enough to carry the game. Andromeda just had way too many issues that dragged the game down, and the decent combat wasn't enough to carry the game. Overall Witcher 3 was a good open world game and Andromeda simply wasn't. guy is complaining of the open world aspect because he has to cross the street to render the other side lol TKO. Winner!
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Post by vallixas on May 14, 2017 6:24:29 GMT
Also for the record, they didn't copy Witcher 3's formula; They copied Inquisition's, only they half assed it.
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Post by derrame on May 14, 2017 6:31:53 GMT
they copied the formula of Dragon Age Inquisition, which sucks the witcher 3 is a masterpiece
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Post by Terminator Force on May 14, 2017 17:36:19 GMT
What separates Andromeda and Witcher 3 is writing and characters. Witcher 3 was very well written while Andromeda was all over the place. We won't even get into things like animation. Witcher 3 combat was indeed so-so, but the story and characters were strong enough to carry the game. Andromeda just had way too many issues that dragged the game down, and the decent combat wasn't enough to carry the game. Overall Witcher 3 was a good open world game and Andromeda simply wasn't. guy is complaining of the open world aspect because he has to cross the street to render the other side lol No, it's because I have to cross the open world street in an old rusty wheelchair that had one of it's wheels fall off.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 14, 2017 17:43:10 GMT
Really don't mind if you play HZD and it makes you feel better. Regarding scanner, you're complaining about the feature that was not copied from TW3 - there is an overlap, but it is in those Andromeda quests where you follow wires hidden behind walls (for example), not in scanning objects for 'research points'. Also, please don't talk about Skyrim enemies being tied to "level design" in the context of the overworld combat encounters; surely you don't mean to say that they are tied to the PC level. Separated regions in open world games are caused by said games happening on remote islands, planets, or just in distant lands, and for a good reason. The first planet in Andromeda is sci-fi for sure, and it's enough to have one sci-fi planet to label the collection of them as sci-fi, what don't you understand. But instead of scanning wires to follow you're scanning blood trails and smell of wine particles in the air to follow. So same shit. And instead of scanning for research points, your scanning for crafting and loot because it's practically impossible to not miss most things in TW3 without always activating that scanner. At least in Andromeda it's nowhere near as dependent on always pulling your scanner out. In TW3 it's so bad they might as well just made scanner vision the default view for the whole game (why do you think there's an option to turn off the fish eye look of it, because it has to be used to frequently. But sure wish there was a way to turn off it sound dampening affect too).
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Post by Terminator Force on May 14, 2017 17:46:34 GMT
If they copied Witcher 3, Andromeda would be the most critically acclaimed rpg of this generation thus far instead of the biggest rpg flop of this generation with perhaps the worst writing for dialogue I have seen in a western game by a triple A dev so far. 'My face is tired' lol. Don't get me started on most of the cast especially Liam who is without a doubt one of the worst written companions i've ever experienced in an rpg. Again, I'm talking game play related aspects. Because if Andromeda had the world immersion, story, character, graphics and lore quality of TW3, it would have been GotY. That's my point. These thinks make today's gamers overlook all other flaws in video games.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 14, 2017 17:54:00 GMT
Another gripe I have is every world I go to I need to activate 3 fricking monoliths and a vault grrrrr >___> Why is this a gripe? It's a way to add platforming, puzzle solving, and alien dungeons into the game. It diversifies the gameplay. If you play the game like some OCD person and target this then sure it may get repetitive. The game is meant to to be played where you do things as you discover them. Turn off your objectives
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Post by projectpatdc on May 14, 2017 17:57:46 GMT
If they copied Witcher 3, Andromeda would be the most critically acclaimed rpg of this generation thus far instead of the biggest rpg flop of this generation with perhaps the worst writing for dialogue I have seen in a western game by a triple A dev so far. 'My face is tired' lol. Don't get me started on most of the cast especially Liam who is without a doubt one of the worst written companions i've ever experienced in an rpg. Way to use the one quote that the entire internet immaturely used to criticize the game that is in the first hour of the game. My face is tired also means she's tired of smiling and looking positive when everything has gone to shit. (sorry get a little heated over the same, constant complaints using the same examples a million times. Nothing personal!) Yes there is some bad dialogue like Morda's teen girl rage, but it's nothing new when the OT had sub or dialogue as well
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 14, 2017 18:07:26 GMT
Also, don't lump this with the other Witcher 3 threads, or I'm out. This focus is different enough for me to not want to get lost in the mess of a thread to follow that is the merged Witcher 3 threads. Anyway, disclaimer. I couldn't beat The Witcher 3. I tried, I really tried, but the game is so boring and flawed. Did everything in the first world map, and made it as far as hunting for the witch main quest - then doing that cave mission with her. After that I couldn't push myself to keep going with the flaws of this game. Everyone is tooting this the next benchmark in open world gaming? But this is where the game bombs hardest. Next, Andromeda really does rip off The Witcher 3 at every turn. Way more then I expected. So all the comparisons of Andromeda to The Witcher 3 are not at all unfound. It's like BioWare took it's skeleton literally and built upon it, because no standard folks are praising The Witcher 3 as the next standard in open and EA wants that open world success formula means they has to rip it off completely. So here are some similarities I've spotted. - the hold a button long enough to activate something to activate something to save on the lack of buttons for console gamers - the stupidly hard to pinpoint circle thing on NPCs you have to aim for to activate NPS dialog - the way too many NPCs who just talk on their own and constant overlapping dialogs that happen with it - the bland to explore open worlds - the fact that the open world are not just one massive open world like Bethesda games, but several separate open world maps - how combat in open world is very lazy thought out (just copy paste a group of enemies in the same setups over and over - for MEA is the same bases over and over, while for TW3 it's just a boring flat ground with sometimes massive foliage blocking your field of view) - boring combat, but to ME:A's credit, TW3 is way more boring - how exploring open world feels like a chore in both games - how both games are padded with way to many boring fetch quests - the interface for TS3 is also total garbage, lol - in both game interest in collecting items OCD'ness ends soon because of how much crap these games toss at you and because the UI for menus are such balls to navigate that you never both to looks up and manage all this junk anyways. - the stupid scanner, yep, in both games and just as stupid in TW3 - riding the horse sucks, riding the Nomad better, but still sucks. Both only serve purpose to get to next destination. While you can use the Nomad as cover, the horse can sometimes get in the way of combat, lol. - etc, etc. Gameplay wise and overall design wise, TW3 is actually worse then Andromeda. Not just because of gameplay combat, but how exploration is handled. It literally is a very linear game in a checklist of fetch quest. And you can't just have all the side and main quests market on the map all at once like in Skyrim so you can take the route of least resistance and maybe get sidetracked in discovering and opening/completing new quests discovered on the way to do other quests. No, you can only have one quest at a time highlighted on the map, and to toggle between quests, you have to enter another sub menu, lol. And did I mention on console (PS4) bringing up the map is not instant, but comes with an actual 3 or so seconds of loading? So yeah, if you want to follow the quests marked on the map, you're basically doing way more riding horse waste of time across boring open world then needed, or wasting extra time in this game's total garbage UI for navigating between menus. "But what about the question marks on the map, surely they are an alternative for more open non-linear exploration" you say? Yeah, well it would have been if those question marks also listed the recommended levels for doing them too, because starting with the second map you end up in areas where enemies are too powerful for you. Meaning you've just arrived at "Waste of time destination! Proceed to next possible waste of time destination through boring over world because you aren't following the one at at time side quests markers marked on your 3 second load screen map!" How this game got GotY is beyond me. Guess it's all those I have no standards people who say "RPGs don't need gameplay. Just build pretty graphics and story and we will pay." Or in the case of Andromeda "My face is tired animation and graphics to the song and dance of Mac Walters quality of writing & directing? Yes please!" End rant/ I could have told you that by playing The Witcher 2 which was a pretty looking game but sucked all the way around but thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't spend a lot of money on it. Also what do expect from a game published by Warner Bros Interactive, in the USA, a company that is the worst AAA publisher and/or developer and does everything that focuses on DLC over the finished the game. You want to play an unfinished buggy POS game then go play Batman: Arkham Knight on the PC, this a game so bad that it had to be pulled from Steam and that right there is a major achievement because Steam has shit ton bad games on it's severs that should be pulled down. They "fixed" it and by most reports it still just barely ran right on PC and seemed only to work half-way right on the PS4.
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Post by Mihura on May 14, 2017 18:13:41 GMT
I kinda of agree... I mean when it comes to the flaws because they did not provide a family story at all and TW 3 did that and made me fucking cry.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 18:18:10 GMT
Another gripe I have is every world I go to I need to activate 3 fricking monoliths and a vault grrrrr >___> Why is this a gripe? It's a way to add platforming, puzzle solving, and alien dungeons into the game. It diversifies the gameplay. If you play the game like some OCD person and target this then sure it may get repetitive. The game is meant to to be played where you do things as you discover them. Turn off your objectives I can see your point and I enjoy discovering new missions/objectives however doing the same objectives on every planet can wear thin. Don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the added content to the game that bioware have implemented. As it's not one of my favourite titles I'm being slightly biased. ^__^
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Post by projectpatdc on May 14, 2017 19:37:44 GMT
Why is this a gripe? It's a way to add platforming, puzzle solving, and alien dungeons into the game. It diversifies the gameplay. If you play the game like some OCD person and target this then sure it may get repetitive. The game is meant to to be played where you do things as you discover them. Turn off your objectives I can see your point and I enjoy discovering new missions/objectives however doing the same objectives on every planet can wear thin. Don't get me wrong I'm enjoying the added content to the game that bioware have implemented. As it's not one of my favourite titles I'm being slightly biased. ^__^ Yup and I completely agree that it can wear thin. They could have diversified the gameplay more, and added more detailed events or stories directly involved with each monolith and vault. The game does things better in terms of adding fun new content with the sense of discovery, but it also falls flat in many ways. Every side quest needed to be story-rich, and even the smallest encounters should turned into epic quests or battles. I still think they could have included more random events and encounters in the game. And added vehicles with weapons. Like when you activate a monolith on Elaaden, a small platoon of outcasts ambush you as they have learned of the pathfinder's abilities and are looking to leverage the vault for their own means. you have to battle soldiers, mechs, and even drop ships or land vehicles with weapons. And while driving the nomad, encounter drop ships and land vehicles with weapons instead of the same 10 enemies that you can blow through in a minute.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 14, 2017 19:39:59 GMT
I could have told you that by playing The Witcher 2 which was a pretty looking game but sucked all the way around but thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't spend a lot of money on it. Also what do expect from a game published by Warner Bros Interactive, in the USA, a company that is the worst AAA publisher and/or developer and does everything that focuses on DLC over the finished the game. You want to play an unfinished buggy POS game then go play Batman: Arkham Knight on the PC, this a game so bad that it had to be pulled from Steam and that right there is a major achievement because Steam has shit ton bad games on it's severs that should be pulled down. They "fixed" it and by most reports it still just barely ran right on PC and seemed only to work half-way right on the PS4. Worked amazing on my ps4. Arkham city story was better but Arkham Knight is by far the best batman experience ever made.
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Post by smilesja on May 15, 2017 0:20:20 GMT
If they copied Witcher 3, Andromeda would be the most critically acclaimed rpg of this generation thus far instead of the biggest rpg flop of this generation with perhaps the worst writing for dialogue I have seen in a western game by a triple A dev so far. 'My face is tired' lol. Don't get me started on most of the cast especially Liam who is without a doubt one of the worst written companions i've ever experienced in an rpg. There's way worse dialogue in Triple A video games and ME: A is hardly a flop.
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Post by The Arbiter on May 15, 2017 6:13:52 GMT
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Post by cooldude on May 15, 2017 6:29:07 GMT
Speaking of Witcher 3. Never played it, but want to, would playing 1 and 2 be required to understand the overall story?
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Post by kumazan on May 15, 2017 6:37:43 GMT
Speaking of Witcher 3. Never played it, but want to, would playing 1 and 2 be required to understand the overall story? Nope. If anything, reading the books makes the game a lot more enjoyable imo, but the game can be enjoyed on its own.
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Post by cooldude on May 15, 2017 18:57:41 GMT
Speaking of Witcher 3. Never played it, but want to, would playing 1 and 2 be required to understand the overall story? Nope. If anything, reading the books makes the game a lot more enjoyable imo, but the game can be enjoyed on its own. Thanks for the response bruh.
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Post by elevon on May 15, 2017 19:32:02 GMT
I did two playthroughs of TW3 - one prior to the DLC and patches and a second including all DLCs and patches while romancing Triss and Yen respectively; probably about 250 hrs total spread out over 6 months. I really enjoyed my time in CDProjektRed's universe but, after those playthroughs, I never revisited the game again. In the two months since MEA's release, I've spent more hours and had more fun with what BioWare created in ME:A. To each their own... Same! I played TW3 once, and then its DLC's (also once), but with MEA I haven't stopped playing or enjoying it! I haven't seen many who felt like me, so I kept quiet. Are we playing same game?..MEA is not even in the top 20, the worst of ME games by far, game is short and not many enemies, W3 is in a different league, the other ME games are better then Andromeda, I think they can't make MEA any worst then what it is, storyline is boring and not great, ending is boring and nothing to write home about, only about two characters in the game that are worth anything. Sorry Andromeda does not cut it by any means.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 19:43:47 GMT
Same! I played TW3 once, and then its DLC's (also once), but with MEA I haven't stopped playing or enjoying it! I haven't seen many who felt like me, so I kept quiet. Are we playing same game?..MEA is not even in the top 20, the worst of ME games by far, game is short and not many enemies, W3 is in a different league, the other ME games are better then Andromeda, I think they can't make MEA any worst then what it is, storyline is boring and not great, ending is boring and nothing to write home about, only about two characters in the game that are worth anything. Sorry Andromeda does not cut it by any means. Different tastes. If you enjoy a game, you see things that are good about it. If you don't, you see stuff that does not impress you. Gamers aren't hive-minds. We don't all like the same things. The ending made me smile, I have played it 8 times now, and I love the story and characters. TW3 was a one-time thing and I never felt like playing it again. Also, as a woman, I see no appeal in playing Geralt though I did sleep with all the ladies for fun lol
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Post by Terminator Force on May 15, 2017 23:01:57 GMT
Again, when folks talk about the greatness of TW3, they never talk about the game play and it's related mechanics. Only story, character, lore, graphics, etc. Like you guys are all glorified goal post movers.
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