No wonder Andromeda sucks. Because the game formula they copied, The Witcher 3, sucks!

Yes, Skyrim seems like a game you want to explore. But after only 30 hours you discover how this exploration is meaningless, because everything is filled with the same stuff. All those dungeons and caves are the same, and you basically to the same all the time. 
I did that in previous games, and it was way better experience. Those Oblivion dungeons for example have much more diverse content. 

I can definitely explore in MEA and Witcher 3. More so in Witcher 3 for sure. Turn off that mini map and get lost. And the cool thing is I have Novigrad/Velen, Skellige, and Tousaint all to get lost in.


There's more open world exploration in tousaint with top quality content than most open world games.

I also enjoy Skyrim, but I find Witcher 3 to be the better of the two. Just depends on the person

I'm not hopeless. You just can't beat me in these kind of conversations. Your arguments are ridiculous.

People like me have overgrown games like Skyrim long time ago. Actually i was never fan of mediocrity in any way, especially in games. 
I like games, i design them: textures and meshes. 

I simply don't like games that treat me like i'm 10 years old. 

Guess you can just look at its record sales and ratings if it's so bad. Like I said, skyrim=revolutionary when other games are trying to mimic it but failing.

i have to laugh at choices mattering as well, you do know this is a Bethesda game right? You're playing the wrong game if you expected as such, it's not why people play it. I'll use my reference to my last post, the game is great because of its flexibility and having almost no limitations (which your "choices" would go vs that. It's the true definition of an open world game, you're allowed access to everything right off the bat, given the freedom to do whatever you want, however you want. The story doesn't take away from that flexibility. Besides, if you're a lore junky you'll notice far more story outside the actual main line story, it's why you'll always see me say the side content is better than the main line content.

honestly, it's good Bethesda games don't have great stories anyways, it would just result in people bitching about the open world taking away from it by side quests "distracting them" or pulling them away from the main story. Simply cause people choose to let it happen anyways.

You should play some of Beth older games. The problem with Skyrim is not open world, big map, etc. The problem is exactly that choices and consequences don't exist. 
I have give you an example with Emperor and DB broken quest line. Oblivion did not have these problems. 
Through quests and characters you make connection with the world. Not through collecting potions and killing around. Again Oblivion. 

You wan't to see Beth choices and consequences, then play Morrowind.  

TW3 has plenty of useless fluff quantity in it... so it DOES have something to do about this.  You absolutely cannot deny that looting endless, endless chests in TW3 adds to the story (sarcasm).  It's not something a Witcher would do, but in that game, it is something that the player basically has to do to some degree... or they just don't get the food, the crafting supplies, the plans, and the weapons that are all part of that game.  There are a huge number of mini-quests of which some are purely "fetch" in nature... that don't even appear in the log when done.  Furthermore, if one doesn't loot, one doesn't find the little letters and notes and books that are used to provide the player with the little stories that go along with those quests... most of which have nothing to do with the main story and nothing to do with Geralt being a Witcher.  They do provide a Gothic "setting"... although having whores running around in shorts and tank tops really breaks with that setting.  I also watched Sigi Reuven's quest... and was a bit jarred when he mentions a trombone (invented in the 19th Century).

People incessantly nitpick ME3 and criticize it endlessly for it's fetch quests (whereas it's a dire sin to criticize TW3 at all)... but the reality is that Shepard is sent to fetch very little.  He/she may or may not overhear a conversation while going about his/her business and then may, by chance, find something related to that individuals problem while on a main mission (and there is significantly less out of the way looting involved to find that item)... then, if the player desires, Shepard can remember the conversation he/she overheard and give the item to the person whose problem it would solve.  To me, that's far more organic and connected to the main story than a number of the side quests I encountered in TW3 (e.g. Spooked Mare (also caught on a video I watched)... Witcher, go get my horse for me, she's run off)

White Orchard area is roughly 10 hours at most, so if someone quits playing before that, I don't know - maybe they don't like reading little books and little letters, as you keep suggesting in this thread so often...

We don't know much about stats for Mass Effect games, how they were gathered, how they were processed. It's not as useful and informative as comparing relative ratios of achievement stats from the same source.

And having bounty stories like this would be amazing.

nothing compares to this trailer IMO

How does this suggest that they've successfully connected with the actual story... which is what I'm talking about.  The reason why the length is a problem is that all myriad of side quests draw the player out of the main story... causes them to forget what the plot is.  Yeah, Cohn takes about 10 hours before he leaves White Orchard... it still doesn't negate the fact that by doing a bunch of that side questing on his way into White Orchard (because he encountered enemies in those locations and went off the beaten path)... he made a comment that indicates he had essentially forgotten that the main story involved him following Vesimir into White Orchard.  It doesn't negate the fact that some of the story context of notes found gets lost either when they're found before the quest kicks in or are missed while looting and found eons later after the quest is forgotten.

How does finding this random book but missing looting thiis other random book provide the player with backstory in a timely and sensibly ordered fashion.  Answer:  It doesn't.  The mechanic also necessitates there being many multiples of the same book in the world... which necessitates the player having to sell or drop that book or dismantle it for parchment or whatever... a whole ton of rather useless activity in the game that doesn't actually enhance the story in any way.  As I've said, the very fact that Geralt is basically reduced to being a cat burglar rather than a Witcher certainly doesn't add to the roleplay value of the game either.  Then there's the bestiary... it seldom has information on the beasts when you first encounter them... Is Geralt not supposed to be a trained Witcher - the best in his business?  So why can't the player look up beasts in that "book" BEFORE encountering them for the first time in the game?

You also have in your house many things that you never use. 

There are people who turned every chest in TW3 and finished every quest. For them that's not filler. 
And this game is not Skyrim where everything is filler, placeholder. 

You know very well why people criticize Bioware. 

Agreed. I like the game, but just can't replay it again, I am however waiting till this big patch for the cc comes out then I might try default Sara Ryder(if they finally let you slightly tweak her) to have her ready for NG+ 100% completionist run with the dlcs.

i loved TW3, but its style stops me from replaying it regardless of how great it was, can't change classes, race, or even change the looks will be enough to stop me from replaying it, it's why I like DA:I better than it.