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Post by setokaiba on May 10, 2017 18:16:19 GMT
Which dialogue option are you referring to in the final mission? The part where the Archon video calls Ryder after he kidnaps Sara and SAM - You have an option to say "Archon! Don't blame your people. This clusterfuck is all you." I just realized that it's optional, but still, it's an option. An option many are going to pick, I presume, since a lot of people are enjoying the casual dialogue options. I can't honestly imagine someone whose sister just got kidnapped and who has the fate of humanity (actually everyone in Heleus, but you get my point) upon their shoulders saying that. Not in a situation like this. - At about 14:20 in the video. So your problem is that an rpg that someone has the option to pick a sarcastic option in a serious situation when they give you the option not to pick it if you don't want? Not to sound mean but you have any idea how stupid that sounds? If you don't want to use that option because it ruins the tension for you then don't pick that option! It's just that simple really. I can understand hating the auto dialogue but complaining they give you option to pick something you don't have to is just silly and comes off as complaining just for the sake of complaining.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 18:19:04 GMT
I like when I can make my PC's kinda laugh in the face of death. It's like when my father learned that he was going to die within a month. His first comment was that he was going to miss the ending of his favorite show.
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Post by setokaiba on May 10, 2017 18:22:36 GMT
Also Joker is one of the most loved characters in the entire series and he spends every game making jokes about serious situations but I don't remember anyone complaining about but god forbid anyone in MEA have a sense of humor. :srs:
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Post by Melcara on May 10, 2017 18:30:10 GMT
The part where the Archon video calls Ryder after he kidnaps Sara and SAM - You have an option to say "Archon! Don't blame your people. This clusterfuck is all you." I just realized that it's optional, but still, it's an option. An option many are going to pick, I presume, since a lot of people are enjoying the casual dialogue options. I can't honestly imagine someone whose sister just got kidnapped and who has the fate of humanity (actually everyone in Heleus, but you get my point) upon their shoulders saying that. Not in a situation like this. - At about 14:20 in the video. So your problem is that an rpg that someone has the option to pick a sarcastic option in a serious situation when they give you the option not to pick it if you don't want? Not to sound mean but you have any idea how stupid that sounds? If you don't want to use that option because it ruins the tension for you then don't pick that option! It's just that simple really. I can understand hating the auto dialogue but complaining they give you option to pick something you don't have to is just silly and comes off as complaining just for the sake of complaining. Again, this is not the only instance in the game where this happens. This was just something I came up with off the top of my head, and kind of forgot it was an option. A bad example, I admit it. The cheesy autodialogue on Habitat 7 would be a better example. Anyway, if people like this lighthearted tone, I have no problem with it. To each their own. I personally think that choosing such a tone for a game like this was wrong, though.
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Post by Rochrok on May 10, 2017 18:55:41 GMT
I don't think there was a problem with some of the light hearted options. I even picked the "clusterfuck" option near the end. The problem is when you zoom out and see that over 90% of the dialogue from every single character is a quip. Then it starts getting ridiculous for the scenario they are in. At the end of the day, the Archon is not taken seriously as a villain and the whole thing feels like a long Scooby Doo movie. I half expected the Archon to shout "And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
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Post by smilesja on May 10, 2017 19:11:14 GMT
I don't think there was a problem with some of the light hearted options. I even picked the "clusterfuck" option near the end. The problem is when you zoom out and see that over 90% of the dialogue from every single character is a quip. Then it starts getting ridiculous for the scenario they are in. At the end of the day, the Archon is not taken seriously as a villain and the whole thing feels like a long Scooby Doo movie. I half expected the Archon to shout "And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!" It was less than 90 percent far less.
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Post by kleindropper on May 10, 2017 21:04:03 GMT
Open-world games probably aren't for you. Maybe go back to JRPGs? Something like Persona 5 maybe - but you're in the vast minority as far as TW3 goes. They actually are. I absolutely loved Skyrim and Fallout 3. But The Witcher 3 is not an open world game. HILARIOUS. TW3 is the most open open world game I've ever played. I tried Skyrim remastered for old times sake and shut it off after 10 minutes because it just doesn't compare any more.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 21:10:21 GMT
TW3 sucks? You see lots of crazy shit on the internet, but this is another level
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 21:17:58 GMT
TW3 sucks? You see lots of crazy shit on the internet, but this is another l You can go home to TW3 boards as well. I've stated the reasons why I think it sucks and this is a ME board, so the purpose is not to just lay in nondescript praises of a competing game and lay into people who just don't blow a bunch of fanboy smoke up TW3's arse. The completion rate of TW3 is inordinately low for a game of it's alleged calliber and game pacing and loss of story continuity are problems with the open-world concept.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 21:25:24 GMT
TW3 sucks? You see lots of crazy shit on the internet, but this is another l You can go home to TW3 boards as well. I've stated the reasons why I think it sucks and this is a ME board, so the purpose is not to just lay in nondescript praises of a competing game and lay into people who just don't blow a bunch of fanboy smoke up TW3's arse. The completion rate of TW3 is inordinately low for a game of it's alleged calliber and game pacing and loss of story continuity are problems with the open-world concept. Well the topic of this thread includes TW3 so it is not unusual that I respond to it. And you should know that bashing a game that has won over 800 awards and has DLCs that are better than the majority of the games that came out in the last 2 years or so, is not very logical
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Post by projectpatdc on May 10, 2017 21:31:35 GMT
TW3 sucks? You see lots of crazy shit on the internet, but this is another level my coffee just went everywhere after reading this! Thank god I'm on my old macbook
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:37:35 GMT
You can go home to TW3 boards as well. I've stated the reasons why I think it sucks and this is a ME board, so the purpose is not to just lay in nondescript praises of a competing game and lay into people who just don't blow a bunch of fanboy smoke up TW3's arse. The completion rate of TW3 is inordinately low for a game of it's alleged calliber and game pacing and loss of story continuity are problems with the open-world concept. Well the topic of this thread includes TW3 so it is not unusual that I respond to it. And you should know that bashing a game that has won over 800 awards and has DLCs that are better than the majority of the games that came out in the last 2 years or so, is not very logical I'm not just mindlessly "bashing the game" though... I've stated my reasons and I've also clearly stated that it's my personal opinion... so you can just continue to "mindlessly praise the game" and bash anyone to dares offer even a little bit of criticism just because it was so many awards or you can enter into a critical comparison on a more detailed level that could improve future ME games... or you can go home and add your praises of TW3 on TW3 forums. Even Shakespeare has been subject to such in-depth critical academic discussions... but as long as people are not prepared to get past "TW3 is great" in a discussion of it and all they want to do is bash people to beg to differ with them in any way... the illogical thing is why these threads even get started here in the first place because they serve no purpose then.
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Post by The Arbiter on May 11, 2017 0:14:03 GMT
In my Personal opinion the Original ME trilogy shites all over Andromeda even 1 had more interesting things to do compared in Andromeda good god. TW3's lore also shites all over Andromeda including its characters especially if you played the original games + read the books [INSERT I DO NOT NEED TO READ BOOKS IN ORDER TO ENJOY A GAME COMMENT]
bloody hell even something as baren as SKYRIM shites all over Andromeda except in combat. I just don't get this "ANDROMEDA IS GREAT" comments I mean are these people high? even Chrono Trigger shites all over this game... Andromeda went under the radar fairly quick lol My, my - emotional and defensive aren't we? Go back to TW3 forum. Feeding the player with that overwhelming amount of lore in the way that they did in game (and I'm talking about the looted books within the game) could have been much better instead of the jumbled mess that the player receives it in now). The font is also very difficult to read (as I do have some vision issues)... and, although I played it on a 54" HDTV, all that reading still gave me a tremendous headache... and there is no way to enlarge the font to make the reading easier. I am also not the first person to have abandoned a TW3 playthrough... there is ample evidence on YouTube and many of those who did abandon playthroughs stated the same reason (i.e. the game being far too long and losing touch with the main story). As I said, if you're such a fan and are just here to shit on ME:A... go back to TW3 forum. IMO, the codex or a "bestiary" should be a complete reference at the start of a game... not added to in bits and pieces... particularly if the format of the game is more open (where the player does not necessarily encounter the entries in a logical fashion. Having a complete, in-game lore reference would have gone a long ways in help me focus on the actual in-game story and would have helped me sift the main story from all the side stories and I would have been less likely to lose sight of the main story plot. In addition, the map could have shown the suggested levels of the various "question marks" that appeared rather than having the player continually just stumble into areas above their pay grade. It would have helped in planning a logical way to navigate the open world of the game. "In my Personal opinion" TLDR if you can't handle my criticism then don't atlest throw AD-HOMINEM attacks on me for stating my opinion like you. Doesn't mean I do not agree with your views automatically makes me an emotional defensive twat. Pure bollocks. I think you are the one who should go back to TW3 thread. Because unlike today's shite games The WITCHER series forces you to research its lore and actually use your coconut in-order to play it properly. Most old school RPG are like that. Unlike today's shite like what Mack on youtube's "WORTH A BUY" channel states that games today completely spoon feeds your little piss poor decisions because apparently the players of today are more idiotic than Kim Jong Un starting a Nuclear apocalypse K
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Post by griffith82 on May 11, 2017 1:34:15 GMT
To denigrate those who disagree with you and purposely misrepresent why they do is always... You also think The Fore Awakens is good movie, so you anything else you say is to be dismissed. Right someone has a different opinion so their view doesn't count. 🤦♂️
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 13:16:13 GMT
They actually are. I absolutely loved Skyrim and Fallout 3. But The Witcher 3 is not an open world game. HILARIOUS. TW3 is the most open open world game I've ever played. I tried Skyrim remastered for old times sake and shut it off after 10 minutes because it just doesn't compare any more. I just bought the remaster for PS4 after TW3 rubbed me the wrong way with it's flaws I've mentioned, and I was surprised to find out it still holds up. First thing I did for it was download some higher fps performance mods and I was good to go (I would have bought the PC version but I need a CPU & RAM upgrade. Already got new video card). Only thing that stopped me was that patch for Andromeda yesterday, as all I did yesterday was drink energy drinks, alcohol and play ME:Amp while leveling that new Turian Agent & Ghost AR to max levels. It was a good day.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 13:18:48 GMT
You also think The Fore Awakens is good movie, so you anything else you say is to be dismissed. Right someone has a different opinion so their view doesn't count. 🤦♂️ I don't care if it's different opinion or not. Anyone who thinks TFA is an above average movie is the reason everything is wrong in the world today.
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Post by trevelyanshep on May 11, 2017 13:29:24 GMT
TW3 is a snoozefest, that I can agree with. I barely made it out of the training bit before quitting.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 13:30:14 GMT
Also, don't lump this with the other Witcher 3 threads, or I'm out. This focus is different enough for me to not want to get lost in the mess of a thread to follow that is the merged Witcher 3 threads. Anyway, disclaimer. I couldn't beat The Witcher 3. I tried, I really tried, but the game is so boring and flawed. Did everything in the first world map, and made it as far as hunting for the witch main quest - then doing that cave mission with her. After that I couldn't push myself to keep going with the flaws of this game. Everyone is tooting this the next benchmark in open world gaming? But this is where the game bombs hardest. Next, Andromeda really does rip off The Witcher 3 at every turn. Way more then I expected. So all the comparisons of Andromeda to The Witcher 3 are not at all unfound. It's like BioWare took it's skeleton literally and built upon it, because no standard folks are praising The Witcher 3 as the next standard in open and EA wants that open world success formula means they has to rip it off completely. So here are some similarities I've spotted. - the hold a button long enough to activate something to activate something to save on the lack of buttons for console gamers - the stupidly hard to pinpoint circle thing on NPCs you have to aim for to activate NPS dialog - the way too many NPCs who just talk on their own and constant overlapping dialogs that happen with it - the bland to explore open worlds - the fact that the open world are not just one massive open world like Bethesda games, but several separate open world maps - how combat in open world is very lazy thought out (just copy paste a group of enemies in the same setups over and over - for MEA is the same bases over and over, while for TW3 it's just a boring flat ground with sometimes massive foliage blocking your field of view) - boring combat, but to ME:A's credit, TW3 is way more boring - how exploring open world feels like a chore in both games - how both games are padded with way to many boring fetch quests - the interface for TS3 is also total garbage, lol - in both game interest in collecting items OCD'ness ends soon because of how much crap these games toss at you and because the UI for menus are such balls to navigate that you never both to looks up and manage all this junk anyways. - the stupid scanner, yep, in both games and just as stupid in TW3 - riding the horse sucks, riding the Nomad better, but still sucks. Both only serve purpose to get to next destination. While you can use the Nomad as cover, the horse can sometimes get in the way of combat, lol. - etc, etc. Gameplay wise and overall design wise, TW3 is actually worse then Andromeda. Not just because of gameplay combat, but how exploration is handled. It literally is a very linear game in a checklist of fetch quest. And you can't just have all the side and main quests market on the map all at once like in Skyrim so you can take the route of least resistance and maybe get sidetracked in discovering and opening/completing new quests discovered on the way to do other quests. No, you can only have one quest at a time highlighted on the map, and to toggle between quests, you have to enter another sub menu, lol. And did I mention on console (PS4) bringing up the map is not instant, but comes with an actual 3 or so seconds of loading? So yeah, if you want to follow the quests marked on the map, you're basically doing way more riding horse waste of time across boring open world then needed, or wasting extra time in this game's total garbage UI for navigating between menus. "But what about the question marks on the map, surely they are an alternative for more open non-linear exploration" you say? Yeah, well it would have been if those question marks also listed the recommended levels for doing them too, because starting with the second map you end up in areas where enemies are too powerful for you. Meaning you've just arrived at "Waste of time destination! Proceed to next possible waste of time destination through boring over world because you aren't following the one at at time side quests markers marked on your 3 second load screen map!" How this game got GotY is beyond me. Guess it's all those I have no standards people who say "RPGs don't need gameplay. Just build pretty graphics and story and we will pay." Or in the case of Andromeda "My face is tired animation and graphics to the song and dance of Mac Walters quality of writing & directing? Yes please!" End rant/ TLDR Hey, PC master bates. You're online communications for online games suck balls next to 360, X-Bone, PS4 and even PS3.
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Post by derrame on May 11, 2017 13:41:03 GMT
well, you didnt finish thentutorial of a masterpiece and you like a boring bland, tedious game, well, just play what you like
everything bad you write about tw3 is not true, simple, it's most awarded game of all time
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Post by griffith82 on May 11, 2017 16:55:22 GMT
Right someone has a different opinion so their view doesn't count. 🤦♂️ I don't care if it's different opinion or not. Anyone who thinks TFA is an above average movie is the reason everything is wrong in the world today. No what's wrong is people like you who can't accept a viewpoint other than your own.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 17:15:51 GMT
I don't care if it's different opinion or not. Anyone who thinks TFA is an above average movie is the reason everything is wrong in the world today. No what's wrong is people like you who can't accept a viewpoint other than your own. There are subjective opinions and there objective opinions. And objectively speaking, TFA is not an above average movie.
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Post by chawktrick on May 11, 2017 17:19:49 GMT
My, my - emotional and defensive aren't we? Go back to TW3 forum. You've jumped down several people's throats on this forum who disagree with you about The Witcher 3 and have been incredibly defensive. I disagreed with in another thread on this very topic (quite calmly, I might add) and this was your response: "I gave TW3 two honest chances to impress me... and it doesn't... so bite me." Quit playing the victim - everybody can see through it. TW3 made IGN's list of Top 100 RPG's, and the general consensus is that it's a very good game and very successful game. You're well within your rights to disagree and that's fine, but cut the other garbage you bring to the table.
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Post by Farci Reprimer on May 11, 2017 17:33:05 GMT
Nuff said Op.
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Post by The Arbiter on May 11, 2017 19:06:19 GMT
TLDR Hey, PC master bates. You're online communications for online games suck balls next to 360, X-Bone, PS4 and even PS3. "first thing I did was download some higher fps performance mods"
update your toaster maybe that's why you are so salty at the Witcher not running properly "terminator"
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Post by Jacket on May 11, 2017 19:12:18 GMT
Andromeda is nothing like the witcher. The Withcer 3 has an engaging story, Andromeda doesn't. Witcher has well written characters, Andromda doesn't. The Witcher has interesting side quests, Andromeda just slaps you with pointless fetch quests. If Andromeda was anything like The Witcher 3, it would actually be a good game.
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