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Post by The Arbiter on May 11, 2017 19:25:20 GMT
Andromeda is nothing like the witcher. The Withcer 3 has an engaging story, Andromeda doesn't. Witcher has well written characters, Andromda doesn't. The Witcher has interesting side quests, Andromeda just slaps you with pointless fetch quests. If Andromeda was anything like The Witcher 3, it would actually be a good game. dude... you'd just irritate the SJW warriors on this thread
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Post by midnightwolf on May 11, 2017 19:39:46 GMT
They actually are. I absolutely loved Skyrim and Fallout 3. But The Witcher 3 is not an open world game. HILARIOUS. TW3 is the most open open world game I've ever played. I tried Skyrim remastered for old times sake and shut it off after 10 minutes because it just doesn't compare any more. Except it isn't though is it? Because TW3 requires you to go through load screens and such, in order to transition to a new area. Skyrim on the other hand, doesn't. My PC can walk from Whiterun to Riften or Markarth or the many other towns and not suffer a single load screen. So in that sense, Skyrim wins the 'open World' debate hands down!
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 19:48:19 GMT
Hey, PC master bates. You're online communications for online games suck balls next to 360, X-Bone, PS4 and even PS3. "first thing I did was download some higher fps performance mods"
update your toaster maybe that's why you are so salty at the Witcher not running properly "terminator"
Dude, I have access to both console and pc games. For Skyrim, I was just too impatient to await my new CPU and RAM upgrades - and I badly need something to wash off the bad taste of TW3. But for online games like Dark Souls and Mass Effect, console is the way to go because folks not on your friend list can actually communicate with each other. Send/Receive glorious hate mail we do. As well as more folks with mic. That's what my point was, not all is perfect on both sides of the pond.
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Post by midnightwolf on May 11, 2017 20:12:23 GMT
Except it isn't though is it? Because TW3 requires you to go through load screens and such, in order to transition to a new area. Skyrim on the other hand, doesn't. My PC can walk from Whiterun to Riften or Markarth or the many other towns and not suffer a single load screen. So in that sense, Skyrim wins the 'open World' debate hands down! That's so funny. I seem to recall Skyrim having loading screens when entering towns and buildings. I seem to even recall the launch debacle on Playstation with the horrendous loading times. I have TW3 on both PS4 and PC, the only time the game needs a loading screen is when you travel to another freaking continent or some very rare and specific main story mission. Sit down, 0/10. Some walled towns have a transition, such as Markarth. But others don't. And it doesn't change the fact that the PC can walk/run from one end of the map to the other. You can NOT do that in TW3 because each map is self-contained. That is not *true open world*! In a true open world, the maps would blend seamlessly together. Pro-tip. By getting defensive, your showing what an idiot asshat you are!
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Post by The Arbiter on May 11, 2017 20:15:44 GMT
"first thing I did was download some higher fps performance mods"
update your toaster maybe that's why you are so salty at the Witcher not running properly "terminator"
Dude, I have access to both console and pc games. For Skyrim, I was just too impatient to await my new CPU and RAM upgrades - and I badly need something to wash off the bad taste of TW3. But for online games like Dark Souls and Mass Effect, console is the way to go because folks not on your friend list can actually communicate with each other. Send/Receive glorious hate mail we do. As well as more folks with mic. That's what my point was, not all is perfect on both sides of the pond. upgrade your toaster. Oh boy do I remember wayyy wayyy back in the early days of BioWare wherein CDPR advertised their First game the Witcher 1 running on Bioware's engine... people bashed them disrespected them. How the tables have turned. if you jumped immediately into the WORLD OF THE WITCHER WITH 3 and then complain of being lost or bored then you are one of the most idiotic blokes I've met online. I admit I STARTED WITH ME3 and got lost so I forced myself to play the first two games and it was worth it. I discovered the Witcher after the horrible / mediocre ending of ME 3 since I felt empty after playing it. I started with Witcher 2 and then Witcher 1 then 3... it was worth it. It is how continuing role playing games are meant to be played. Andromeda was supposed to be a reboot of the franchise but is mediocre as hell. I'd rather get abused by starbrat than to replay this abomination. Here enjoy my screenshot:
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Post by midnightwolf on May 11, 2017 20:31:43 GMT
Some walled towns have a transition, such as Markarth. But others don't. And it doesn't change the fact that the PC can walk/run from one end of the map to the other. You can NOT do that in TW3 because each map is self-contained. That is not *true open world*! In a true open world, the maps would blend seamlessly together. Pro-tip. By getting defensive, your showing what an idiot asshat you are! I'm getting defensive, yet you are calling me an "idiot asshat". I'm not even trolling you, what you're saying is just outright wrong. You can go anywhere in TW3 with the only loading screen being when switching continents, have you even played the game? You can seamlessly enter and leave buildings, even story related ones without any loading and the main map of the game is far bigger than that of Skyrim. The Witcher 3 has 3 or 4 loading screens for the couple of different land masses, Skyrim has 1 land mass in which you would have hundreds of loading screens. Just stop dude, you're getting angry... Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 20:37:53 GMT
Maybe it's time moderators stepped up a bit. This is getting embarassing.
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Post by midnightwolf on May 11, 2017 20:55:11 GMT
Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic! I never called Skyrim trash, I own the game on 2 platforms. However it is very inferior and outdated compared to TW3 and even MEA. Bethesda are good at open world, but never did story and characters well. Back in the days when Skyrim launched there were 2 pillars of RPG making. The Bethesda open world and exploration, but shitty story and Bioware, linear, but very polished cinematic experience. MEA has good baseline gameplay, but lacks that Bioware pillar that people have learned to expect after the OT. So in reality it's mostly MEA fanboys who hate on W3 for being the benchmark for contemporary RPGs, but the truest competitor to MEA is the original trilogy and it's fans, those are the ones that Andromeda lost. And MEA doesn't even deserve to be in the same sentence as TW3. It doesn't merit that comparison. MEA may have similar foundations to TW3, but what it build upon is a far cry of the story telling quality CDProjekt have achieved. Nor is MEA a financial success. So really it's more insulting to TW3 and the gaming industry overall to compare one of the best games of the last decade to something so mediocre they still can't patch the bugs out of it... Now, you truly are talking rubbish. How'd you know ME:A isn't a financial success? Do you work for EA? As for patchs. CDprojekt red released a MASSIVE 18GB patch for TW3 because it was so broken, but hid it under so called 'changes''. Changes which I for one never noticed. PS: That Wolf armor is still broken!
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Post by Jacket on May 11, 2017 21:23:37 GMT
I'm getting defensive, yet you are calling me an "idiot asshat". I'm not even trolling you, what you're saying is just outright wrong. You can go anywhere in TW3 with the only loading screen being when switching continents, have you even played the game? You can seamlessly enter and leave buildings, even story related ones without any loading and the main map of the game is far bigger than that of Skyrim. The Witcher 3 has 3 or 4 loading screens for the couple of different land masses, Skyrim has 1 land mass in which you would have hundreds of loading screens. Just stop dude, you're getting angry... Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic! Geralt doesn't go around planets to do heaps of generic fetch quests with uninteresting companions lol. You should play Horizon, that game only has to load when you fast travel, die or enter a cut scene.
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Post by midnightwolf on May 11, 2017 21:27:41 GMT
Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic! Geralt doesn't go around planets to do heaps of generic fetch quests with uninteresting companions lol. You should play Horizon, that game only has to load when you fast travel, die or enter a cut scene. That's because he's in the Medieval period, you fool. Space travel doesn't exist yet. I can't believe I just had to type that!
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Post by Jacket on May 11, 2017 21:36:22 GMT
You kind of missed the point...
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Post by griffith82 on May 11, 2017 21:58:19 GMT
No what's wrong is people like you who can't accept a viewpoint other than your own. There are subjective opinions and there objective opinions. And objectively speaking, TFA is not an above average movie. Sorry bud but an opinion is an opinion period. There is no right or wrong opinion however the facts are on my side. Out of 10,000 reviews on amazon 74%are 5 star. Also 8.1 on IMDb.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:12:02 GMT
There are subjective opinions and there objective opinions. And objectively speaking, TFA is not an above average movie. Sorry bud but an opinion is an opinion period. There is no right or wrong opinion however the facts are on my side. Out of 10,000 reviews on amazon 74%are 5 star. Also 8.1 on IMDb. Are you another one of those who thinks art is all subjective?
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:15:27 GMT
I'm getting defensive, yet you are calling me an "idiot asshat". I'm not even trolling you, what you're saying is just outright wrong. You can go anywhere in TW3 with the only loading screen being when switching continents, have you even played the game? You can seamlessly enter and leave buildings, even story related ones without any loading and the main map of the game is far bigger than that of Skyrim. The Witcher 3 has 3 or 4 loading screens for the couple of different land masses, Skyrim has 1 land mass in which you would have hundreds of loading screens. Just stop dude, you're getting angry... Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic! I agree with this. They handle open world very similar to each other and both quite different from Bethesda's efforts. If you dislike one, you should be disliking the other or pretty close.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:23:20 GMT
Dude, I have access to both console and pc games. For Skyrim, I was just too impatient to await my new CPU and RAM upgrades - and I badly need something to wash off the bad taste of TW3. But for online games like Dark Souls and Mass Effect, console is the way to go because folks not on your friend list can actually communicate with each other. Send/Receive glorious hate mail we do. As well as more folks with mic. That's what my point was, not all is perfect on both sides of the pond. upgrade your toaster. Oh boy do I remember wayyy wayyy back in the early days of BioWare wherein CDPR advertised their First game the Witcher 1 running on Bioware's engine... people bashed them disrespected them. How the tables have turned. if you jumped immediately into the WORLD OF THE WITCHER WITH 3 and then complain of being lost or bored then you are one of the most idiotic blokes I've met online. I admit I STARTED WITH ME3 and got lost so I forced myself to play the first two games and it was worth it. I discovered the Witcher after the horrible / mediocre ending of ME 3 since I felt empty after playing it. I started with Witcher 2 and then Witcher 1 then 3... it was worth it. It is how continuing role playing games are meant to be played. Andromeda was supposed to be a reboot of the franchise but is mediocre as hell. I'd rather get abused by starbrat than to replay this abomination. Here enjoy my screenshot: Not lost and bored because TW3 is a very linear game by design. And that's what I'm talking about here, game play and open world design, among other things related to. So not exactly saying TW3 is not entirely worth it, but to someone who values strong game play aspects in his RPGs, it makes it very difficult to keep pushing on with this game.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:29:20 GMT
Maybe it's time moderators stepped up a bit. This is getting embarassing. Then leave. I don't want this topic locked just because someone can't handle. People get a little passionate about the games they love. Big deal. I personally much rather see folks be more passionate about things. EDIT - though that one person shouldn't have called someone an idiot.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:31:11 GMT
Except it isn't though is it? Because TW3 requires you to go through load screens and such, in order to transition to a new area. Skyrim on the other hand, doesn't. My PC can walk from Whiterun to Riften or Markarth or the many other towns and not suffer a single load screen. So in that sense, Skyrim wins the 'open World' debate hands down! That's so funny. I seem to recall Skyrim having loading screens when entering towns and buildings. I seem to even recall the launch debacle on Playstation with the horrendous loading times. I have TW3 on both PS4 and PC, the only time the game needs a loading screen is when you travel to another freaking continent or some very rare and specific main story mission. Sit down, 0/10. You totally missed the point as to what he was talking about.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 11, 2017 23:35:26 GMT
Except I'm not wrong. You TW3 fans come here to tell us how TW3 has the most open world of any game ever. When it's EXACTLY the same as how ME:A does it. But ME:A is trash and lame to you fanboys! You think about it. You call ME:A trash for having the same open world as TW3, and then call it crap. While also calling Skyrim. What logic! I never called Skyrim trash, I own the game on 2 platforms. However it is very inferior and outdated compared to TW3 and even MEA. Bethesda are good at open world, but never did story and characters well.
Except we're not talking story and characters here. We're talking game play and open world design. But thanks for admitting TW3 doesn't do something so good.
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Post by The Arbiter on May 12, 2017 3:22:59 GMT
upgrade your toaster. Oh boy do I remember wayyy wayyy back in the early days of BioWare wherein CDPR advertised their First game the Witcher 1 running on Bioware's engine... people bashed them disrespected them. How the tables have turned. if you jumped immediately into the WORLD OF THE WITCHER WITH 3 and then complain of being lost or bored then you are one of the most idiotic blokes I've met online. I admit I STARTED WITH ME3 and got lost so I forced myself to play the first two games and it was worth it. I discovered the Witcher after the horrible / mediocre ending of ME 3 since I felt empty after playing it. I started with Witcher 2 and then Witcher 1 then 3... it was worth it. It is how continuing role playing games are meant to be played. Andromeda was supposed to be a reboot of the franchise but is mediocre as hell. I'd rather get abused by starbrat than to replay this abomination. Here enjoy my screenshot: Not lost and bored because TW3 is a very linear game by design. And that's what I'm talking about here, game play and open world design, among other things related to. So not exactly saying TW3 is not entirely worth it, but to someone who values strong game play aspects in his RPGs, it makes it very difficult to keep pushing on with this game. "Not lost and bored because TW3 is a very linear game by design."
good god. What where you expecting? Where you expecting Geralt of Rivia to have long black hair wearing a THONG in combat while summoning Satan himself?! it's called "THE WORLD OF THE WITCHER"for a god damn reason.
CLAIMS to be disappointed with linearity and gameplay... never understood the concept in the first place. This is why I seldom talk to people who jumped immediately into the World of the Witcher especially with 3 without playing the previous titles first. More so who has never read the books.
In this conversation I have learned that you sir are either:
1. a serious Bethesda/BioWare fan which is not bad but are blind and worship them by riding their dicks without giving them proper criticism and feedback and would zealously defend them against any other competitors
2. A good troll 3. Not a real RPG player Listen, I don't play or stick to one genre of games only. I play almost every genre including flight simulators like DCS and IL-2 STURMOVIK ... and I know when I experience good gameplay or see a good game. The first game to really peak my interest was the Half Life series from Valve and despite the protagonist not speaking out, they manage to bloody tell a fucking story with great gameplay for everyone to enjoy. Then we had the Medal of Honor series which also influenced me alot as well. The Witcher was weird for me at first coming from Asia dominated by Japanese Role Playing games most of the time, but the Witcher was spot on in capturing politics, brutality, and even superstition/folklore of Europe [REAL EUROPE] and I was blown away by this. Even games like Chrono trigger despite its age and simplicity I never fail to respect them and the great story telling it gave. Skyrim and New Vegas which is my first elder scrolls and fallout btw totally blew me away with player freedom.[ Though alot of Elder scrolls veterans told me that it doesn't hold a candle to Morrowind and Oblivion and considered it one of the worst in the franchise same applies to Fallout 4]these are the things which you fail to see. You fail to see what CDPR wanted the Witcher to be in the first place. To respect the source material and inject Polish culture / European culture into it. The execution was perfect since it didn't just want to be another elder scrolls game. IT WANTED TO BE A WITCHER GAME. The open world formula is already laid out since time-immemorial, they just had to tweak it or make it unique for their goals or the aim they have in mind i.e. EUROPEAN accuracy. Even something like FFXV which is one of the reasons why I really wanted to get a PS4 in the first place had issues of development and it showed. The leading antagonist STELLA NOX FLEURET was changed to some random red hair dude which turned me off and Luna Freya being another generic damsel in distress. Despite such, I still respect the decision of the game developers and would buy it on Steam when it gets released soon. then we have Andromeda.... ooohhhh Andromeda the amount of inconsistencies here is mind boggling.
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Post by griffith82 on May 12, 2017 3:56:53 GMT
Sorry bud but an opinion is an opinion period. There is no right or wrong opinion however the facts are on my side. Out of 10,000 reviews on amazon 74%are 5 star. Also 8.1 on IMDb. Are you another one of those who thinks art is all subjective? Because it is? Ever heard the saying "one mans trash is another mans treasure?" It means that what sucks to one person doesn't for another.
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Why are you posting pictures of Disney World on a Bioware forum...strange...
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Post by KaiserShep on May 12, 2017 4:12:54 GMT
good god. What where you expecting? Where you expecting Geralt of Rivia to have long black hair wearing a THONG in combat while summoning Satan himself?!
This image is complete if Satan is in a gimp suit.
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OP rips everything, says he loves Fallout 3.... Honestly, Fallout 3 was the game that got me into RPGs. It's not as good as Fallout New Vegas, just about all of Bioware RPGs, The Witcher 3 or other RPGs like Horizon Zero Dawn but it's a very fun game for it's time. The combat and story are just god awful in that game. New Vegas had a much better story and RPG elements and Fallout 4 has far better combat(I love Power Armor in that game). Eh, same here. I loved it at the time, and I still enjoying it (tho I think a good portion of that is nostalgia). And yes, New Vegas is one of my all-time favs. I always merely musing over the OP's inconsistency. He claims to only enjoying things that are of an extremely high quality and yet greatly enjoyed Fallout 3.
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Post by slimgrin on May 12, 2017 4:33:49 GMT
How in the hell is TW3 linear? I went to Skellige soon as I could and all three areas were opened up in the first 20 hours. It has one of the biggest maps of all RPGs.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 12, 2017 4:50:57 GMT
How in the hell is TW3 linear? I went to Skellige soon as I could and all three areas were opened up in the first 20 hours. It has one of the biggest maps of all RPGs. And to think that Cyberpunk 2077 is apparently going to be significantly bigger than this. That this is a thing that is heavily emphasized in some of the articles I've read is kind of concerning.
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