No wonder Andromeda sucks. Because the game formula they copied, The Witcher 3, sucks!

I finally get you man.

If it is going to be bigger and better than TW3, I don't see the concern. Well except maybe the stink I'd make for forgetting real life when I'm finished with it.

So now I have to take into account the decisions of previous Witchers to see that it's not that linear. What?

I don't worship Bethesda. I only played 2 of their games since 2012. Skyrim & Fallout 3.

Well, maybe not a real RPG player, but still have played quite a few since my introduction to the genre with Chrono Trigger back in 1995. Though most RPGs I've started I couldn't finish to tell you the truth, though some I came close to beating - like reaching last boss in Dragon Age Origins before quitting (surprised I made it that far in DAO because I dislike the game play in that one too. The pacing between game play and scripted story/town folk chit chat also drove me to almost quit several times earlier. Same thing almost happened in Mass Effect 1 with way too much talking and no game play when you arrive at Citadel - there has to be a nice balance between game play and story in my opinion).

I play other genres too, like 2D scrolling Arcade shooter. Gradius III Arcade is one of my most favorite game, did you know? I'm kinda more old school gamer that really respects well thought out game play and difficulty. I also believe in the 1 coin credit ways of things too for my most fave games. That's how you know a game is really well designed when it's hard but you can still 1cc it.

When you described TW3, you didn't go on about how great it's game play and open world is. Instead you focused on it "capturing politics, brutality, and even superstition/folklore of Europe [REAL EUROPE]." That's nice, but is not the focus of the topic.

Yes, I too heard none stop about how much better folks see Oblivion and Morrowind thanks to better lore, storytelling, maybe immersion and so on. I do have these game and tried a few times to start them, but every time I do I miss the game play improvement in Skyrim and Fallout 3. Or at least how much more enjoyable the game play feels in Skyrim and Fallout 3 by comparison. But yes, again, game play & related is the topic of this thread.

Well everyone was and still is tooting this game as the next standard in Elder Scrolls open world, so you can understand now how this furthered my disappointed because this turned out to be a bogus lie. Unique or not may TW3 open world formula be matters not to me, just that I don't see it as an improvement. Therefore rightfully disappointed.

Me play Final Fantasy game past FFIX? Never going to happen.

And yes, the amount of inconsistencies in Andromeda blows me away too.

Game play. Do RPG players understand game play?

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that game anymore. Especially now that you said significantly bigger. Just sounds like it's going to have even more tacked on game play and related stuff, among other things. What ever happened to quality over quantity? You see if Andromeda would have focused on quality over TW3 quantity...

Bigger is one thing but whether or not that it turns out better at the same time is a different story. Not to sound too pessimistic, but it's always a possibility that it doesn't hold up to its ambitions and I feel too aimless and lose interest. In any case, the thing I'm most interested in is the augmentation trade-off mechanic it has on the character and that's going to be focused squarely on the PC's issues rather than some greater overarching narrative. That, and it's apparently going to have pretty lethal combat that's rather unforgiving, which can either be really good or really frustrating. 

But yeah, if it turns out to be everything it seems to be promising, I might as well just cut ties with my family and friends preemptively.

The quality is the quests. Quantity are those cashes you may or may not need money for the expansions. And again,ignorance is not a virtue. Read my posts again and be enlightened. Jezz for someone whos only got 2 hrs in the game you got a lot to say trying make your prrrreecious bethesda games look good. Seriously there is no need for that crap. Bethesda games are already good on what they are trying to deliver.

Yep. Good god the UI in Vanilla Skyrim... Shudders*

Two hours my ass! It took me two entire days to get that far. What I meant by this game just loves to waste your time with poor design decisions and part of what I disliked about this game. My gaming time is precious to me, and I don't like having it wasted with inefficiency due to developer incompetence.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the UI in vanilla TW3 is much worse. And the UI is plagued with load times all over the place on console for good measure.

And speaking of load times, on PS4 the load times are atrocious.


And that is just from a death. If the devs cared more about not wasting your time and all that bragging about no load times in their game marketing, they wouldn't have made the game reload all entire assets from scratch again. Bethesda learned from this and why the original Skyrim had a patch to greatly reduce load times when entering and exiting house by what I'm assuming to be not erasing all assets forcing the game to load everything from scratch. If Bethesda can do, why can't these polish dudes do it? Maybe because everyone is too busy kissing Witcher 3 ass to even point out any flaws in this game?