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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 6:03:58 GMT
As much as I disagree with most of those statements... I'll try to not start a drama and keep my rants for myself. On topic. A ME movie could be great, but could also be a huge piece of disappointing garbage, it's so easy to fuck things up in movies it's not even funny. From memory, when you have a game you don't make a movie, and vice-versa because for some reason it ends up being fucked. Star Wars kinda did alright in this (movies and games), but then again, huge controversies about some of the movies and some of the SW games, so it's not perfect either. I have zero hope for any videogame movie being good. The only one that is is Wreck-It-Ralph, and that doesn't even technically count. As I've said in the past, I would be perfectly content to have a Mass Effect movie remain in development hell, where it belongs.
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Post by erikson on May 10, 2017 6:09:00 GMT
As much as I disagree with most of those statements... I'll try to not start a drama and keep my rants for myself. On topic. A ME movie could be great, but could also be a huge piece of disappointing garbage, it's so easy to fuck things up in movies it's not even funny. From memory, when you have a game you don't make a movie, and vice-versa because for some reason it ends up being fucked. Star Wars kinda did alright in this (movies and games), but then again, huge controversies about some of the movies and some of the SW games, so it's not perfect either. I have zero hope for any videogame movie being good. The only one that is is Wreck-It-Ralph, and that doesn't even technically count. As I've said in the past, I would be perfectly content to have a Mass Effect movie remain in development hell, where it belongs. It would probably suck, but it would also most likely star male Shep, so I would have to bypass it just on principle since he does not exist to me.
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Post by riotinducer on May 10, 2017 6:15:58 GMT
As much as I disagree with most of those statements... I'll try to not start a drama and keep my rants for myself. On topic. A ME movie could be great, but could also be a huge piece of disappointing garbage, it's so easy to fuck things up in movies it's not even funny. From memory, when you have a game you don't make a movie, and vice-versa because for some reason it ends up being fucked. Star Wars kinda did alright in this (movies and games), but then again, huge controversies about some of the movies and some of the SW games, so it's not perfect either. Star Wars is also a massive IP and one that's never been afraid to throw it's name around. For every good to great star wars game there has been one mediocre to bad one. On topic, I'm glad to hear that it's not all doom and gloom for the higher ups. I would sincerely hate for this to be the end of the ME series. Although it is a bit worrying to see multiplayer listed as a cornerstone of the ME series. Especially given that MP is currently the most broken and ugly part of ME:A. ME3MP was amazing and by the end I had put in about as many hours into the MP as I had into all my single player playthroughs. But ultimately ME3MP was so successful because most people didn't really expect much from it. Suffice to say no one bought ME3 at release for the multiplayer.
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Post by NRieh on May 10, 2017 6:22:50 GMT
Someone woke up on the bad side of the bed this morning. The MP and combat focus is here to stay it seems even if you vehemently hate it. You don't see me asking the makers and fans of Street Fighter to implement and accept a dialogue system, do you?! For crying out aloud! ME had always been a third-person corridor shooter. With a cool setting, decent story and some good characters. It had never been "Baldur's Gate 3d, the space edition". (And guess what? The Sacred 'Baldur's gate' is actually a DnD dungeon crawler. With THAC0. ) Honestly, I don't see how ME1 had been any superior story-wise and character-wise. And don't get me wrong, but Mordin and Legion (+ nostalgic feelings for ME1) are the only ones standing between ME2 and gathering the Pokemons. MEA has a solid story for the 'opening' game, and it has arguably more character-related content than all the MET combined. My only issue with MEA plot\design is that they were not brave enough to detach from the 'mother-trilogy'. They should've left the MW behind, really. Another thing that baffles me is how some people consider MP\combat and story something mutually exclusive, and talk as if god forbids enjoying both of them. I loved ME3 MP (other than the stupid pre-EC TMS thing, but MP is not the one to blame for the crappy game design), I'm into good combat and I love BW stories & characters. It's too early to say something about that cinema, most of the cinematic game-fictions are crap. It takes years, money and skills to make something like 'Warcraft' (or first Silent Hill). That ME anime about Vega looked cheap and had mediocre 'Horizon'-clone for a plot.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 10, 2017 6:23:57 GMT
There are some people who love the multiplayer. They can go fuck themselves too. Let's not get snarky with the multiplayers. Since ME3 it's been an important component of Mass Effect. The single player game is more important, but I would consider the multiplayer component an essential part of a Mass Effect game now. I'm taking Wilson's words as a sign of more Mass Effect and that's no bad thing in my view.
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Post by uberlurker on May 10, 2017 6:50:28 GMT
I have zero hope for any videogame movie being good. The only one that is is Wreck-It-Ralph, and that doesn't even technically count. As I've said in the past, I would be perfectly content to have a Mass Effect movie remain in development hell, where it belongs. It would probably suck, but it would also most likely star male Shep, so I would have to bypass it just on principle since he does not exist to me. I find this amusing as you were complaining about the lack of m/m content in the Romance thread.
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Post by erikson on May 10, 2017 6:53:15 GMT
It would probably suck, but it would also most likely star male Shep, so I would have to bypass it just on principle since he does not exist to me. I find this amusing as you were complaining about the lack of m/m content in the Romance thread. ummm...care to quote me (I only posted in that thread once, can't remember what I said)? I only ever play as women in Bioware games. I don't even know what m Shep's voice sounds like, as I have never watched a nanosecond of footage of the character.
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Post by blueasari on May 10, 2017 7:08:47 GMT
I find this amusing as you were complaining about the lack of m/m content in the Romance thread. ummm...care to quote me (I only posted in that thread once, can't remember what I said)? I only ever play as women in Bioware games. I don't even know what m Shep's voice sounds like, as I have never watched a nanosecond of footage of the character.I find that hard to believe? Surely you would have heard his voice at one point, I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect launch trailers had male shepards voice in them.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 7:12:36 GMT
ummm...care to quote me (I only posted in that thread once, can't remember what I said)? I only ever play as women in Bioware games. I don't even know what m Shep's voice sounds like, as I have never watched a nanosecond of footage of the character.I find that hard to believe? Surely you would have heard his voice at one point, I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect launch trailers had male shepards voice in them. Possible some folks never really watched those trailers. I know I didn't. I only know M!Shep's voice from actually trying it in the game and later watching some YouTube videos about it.
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Post by erikson on May 10, 2017 7:14:17 GMT
ummm...care to quote me (I only posted in that thread once, can't remember what I said)? I only ever play as women in Bioware games. I don't even know what m Shep's voice sounds like, as I have never watched a nanosecond of footage of the character.I find that hard to believe? Surely you would have heard his voice at one point, I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect launch trailers had male shepards voice in them. Never watched any trailers...played the series years after 3 was released (don't really watch many game trailers at all anyway).
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 7:23:59 GMT
I find that hard to believe? Surely you would have heard his voice at one point, I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect launch trailers had male shepards voice in them. Never watched any trailers...played the series years after 3 was released (don't really watch many game trailers at all anyway). If it means anything, you still heard his voice regardless, since there's a little Shepard in every hanar, volus and elcor…….and even vorcha if you can believe it.
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Post by erikson on May 10, 2017 7:28:54 GMT
Never watched any trailers...played the series years after 3 was released (don't really watch many game trailers at all anyway). If it means anything, you still heard his voice regardless, since there's a little Shepard in every hanar, volus and elcor…….and even vorcha if you can believe it. Ah...there is a little M Shep in everyone...how spiritual...and creepy....spiritual, but creepy!
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Post by danishgambit on May 10, 2017 7:35:21 GMT
As much as I disagree with most of those statements... I'll try to not start a drama and keep my rants for myself. On topic. A ME movie could be great, but could also be a huge piece of disappointing garbage, it's so easy to fuck things up in movies it's not even funny. From memory, when you have a game you don't make a movie, and vice-versa because for some reason it ends up being fucked. Star Wars kinda did alright in this (movies and games), but then again, huge controversies about some of the movies and some of the SW games, so it's not perfect either. Star Wars is also a massive IP and one that's never been afraid to throw it's name around. For every good to great star wars game there has been one mediocre to bad one. On topic, I'm glad to hear that it's not all doom and gloom for the higher ups. I would sincerely hate for this to be the end of the ME series. Although it is a bit worrying to see multiplayer listed as a cornerstone of the ME series. Especially given that MP is currently the most broken and ugly part of ME:A. ME3MP was amazing and by the end I had put in about as many hours into the MP as I had into all my single player playthroughs. But ultimately ME3MP was so successful because most people didn't really expect much from it. Suffice to say no one bought ME3 at release for the multiplayer. Nah Star Wars games are mostly bad as most of them are just bad games based on movies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_video_gamesGood star wars games are a pretty rare.
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Post by II So Close II on May 10, 2017 7:36:19 GMT
Regardless of what one thinks of Andromeda - and I think it's pretty obviously a step back for the ME franchise - there can be no doubt that the ME fanbase is expecting (and rightfully so) world class content. A movie, if done right, could re-ignite the ME universe. However, do it wrong and all the built up goodwill could be destroyed over night.
If the movie is what it should be, i.e. like the original trilogy filled to the brim with great story, drama, memorable characters and genuine depth, it will open up what is a brilliantly engaging world to the masses.
If the movie is another substandard video game movie, directed by a Michael Bay of the world (or someone with similar lack of artistic prowess), with explosions, clumsy CGI and a story so shallow even a Volus would be able to stand in it without getting its ankles wet, we'll get another Transformers at worst, Star Wars Episode I/John Carter at best. And that will be that.
Much like Andromeda should have been, a movie will have to be targeted towards intelligent adults expecting high quality, not common denominator pre-teens expecting awesome cool stuff, boiiii, yolo, swag, swag, 420, bro, like, bro.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 7:53:46 GMT
I think there's a lot of serious issues with the original trilogy's overarching plot that would have to be heavily revised or outright canned in order for any kind of movie to work. I'd say that the vast majority of ME2 would certainly not have much room to exist, and the Catalyst….well….I just could not see that ever working out well.
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Post by kumazan on May 10, 2017 7:55:56 GMT
Well, a suit talking suit, there's not much of use for us plebs in there. The movie though, it's interesting - if true. I just don't see how a Mass Effect movie could work. Not work as in be well done, but work as in make significant money for EA and whatever producer the associate themselves to. In fact, I feel a Mass Effect movie done right, story driven, focused on characters and lore would do worse than what many here (including me) fear a ME movie would turn into - a pure action movie with much power spamming and space battles included for the sake of it.
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Post by kheld on May 10, 2017 7:58:55 GMT
One of the reasons I was looking forward to ME:A was the MP.
If you think SP would be miles better if there was no MP you would be totally wrong.
ME:A MP is a poor not very well done version of ME3 MP, with nowhere near as much content.
It's a minimal bolt on.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 8:00:51 GMT
Regardless of what one thinks of Andromeda - and I think it's pretty obviously a step back for the ME franchise - there can be no doubt that the ME fanbase is expecting (and rightfully so) world class content. A movie, if done right, could re-ignite the ME universe. However, do it wrong and all the built up goodwill could be destroyed over night. If the movie is what it should be, i.e. like the original trilogy filled to the brim with great story, drama, memorable characters and genuine depth, it will open up what is a brilliantly engaging world to the masses. If the movie is another substandard video game movie, directed by a Michael Bay of the world (or someone with similar lack of artistic prowess), with explosions, clumsy CGI and a story so shallow even a Volus would be able to stand in it without getting its ankles wet, we'll get another Transformers at worst, Star Wars Episode I/John Carter at best. And that will be that. Much like Andromeda should have been, a movie will have to be targeted towards intelligent adults expecting high quality, not common denominator pre-teens expecting awesome cool stuff, boiiii, yolo, swag, swag, 420, bro, like, bro.If any Mass Effect film follows the trilogy too closely, it would be very much in danger of falling into the bolded description, considering its middle chapter is very close to this. Just the same, I have very little faith that this will end up in the hands of any filmmakers capable of making this material work for the big screen.
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Post by blueasari on May 10, 2017 8:33:00 GMT
I find that hard to believe? Surely you would have heard his voice at one point, I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect launch trailers had male shepards voice in them. Never watched any trailers...played the series years after 3 was released (don't really watch many game trailers at all anyway). Fair enough.
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Post by saandrig on May 10, 2017 9:11:36 GMT
Ah, I have been wondering what Uwe Boll is up to lately...
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Post by Laughing_Crow on May 10, 2017 9:48:07 GMT
Regardless of what one thinks of Andromeda - and I think it's pretty obviously a step back for the ME franchise - there can be no doubt that the ME fanbase is expecting (and rightfully so) world class content. While I think that Andromeda has a good base to be continued either as a series or with more titles, I agree with this statement. But what I find disturbing, is Flynn's statement on the new IP, which really conflicts with what we got in Andromeda:
So why didn't some of that end up in Andromeda, especially with a 5 year development time? What went wrong along the way? BioWare killed one other IP a while back. Andromeda seems to me as unfinished or rushed. I think Andromeda lost out on a lot of development to this new IP; and if they were so forward thinking, why didn't Andromeda get some of the 'fiercely different'? I hope I'm wrong at least for the continuation of anything Mass Effect but I don't have any confidence in what this new IP is supposed to offer, when they could have inserted some of that into Andromeda, even as a taste of the new IP! EDIT - another missed Marketing opportunity to hint or link the new IP to Andromeda.
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Post by Psychevore on May 10, 2017 10:00:14 GMT
Mass Effect movie?
First Contact War and humanity's further introduction to the galactic scene.
That's what I'd make it about.
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Post by cypherj on May 10, 2017 10:13:12 GMT
I was actually worried after the earnings report because they didn't mention ME:A at all. But, the CEO on a call said they were still behind the series, so it seems we'll get future games. Hopefully this was a wake up call, and the next game will be a stark improvement.
I thought the most telling thing was him saying that he played the whole game, and the story wasn't compelling as it could have been, which is what a lot of players have been saying.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 10:16:46 GMT
''Wilson also pointed out that BioWare continues to support Andromeda's multiplayer "regularly" with new content. Overall, Wilson said EA is is "very happy" with "how BioWare is treating Mass Effect." Yeah.. Like one patch in 2 months...
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''Wilson also pointed out that BioWare continues to support Andromeda's multiplayer "regularly" with new content. Overall, Wilson said EA is is "very happy" with "how BioWare is treating Mass Effect." Yeah.. Like one patch in 2 months... It hasn't been 2 months. If you count today's patch, that's three patches in less than 2 months.
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