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Post by uberlurker on May 10, 2017 20:28:24 GMT
Should we assume this means no DLCs forthcoming? If so, that would be incredibly disappointing. I think there should at least be one. The VA for Cora mentioned doing voice work a little while ago. |
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Post by helios969 on May 10, 2017 20:29:28 GMT
Right, blame the fans for criticizing a shoddy product. Sounds legit. Like ignoring a bully really will make him go away. and offer constructive feedback for a product that they as fans are supposed to like, then yes I blame them of blowing the evident flaws of the game out of proportion. The game had its problems but they are not preventing from enjoying a good albeit not outstanding experience. Well it's a good bet most of them are not adults based on the way they throw temper tantrums...and those that are technically legally adults that post that kind of garbage I would consider even worse...since at least kids have that excuse. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 10, 2017 20:30:15 GMT
Wonder why EA's stocks shot up today.
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Post by vonuber on May 10, 2017 20:30:57 GMT
They might consider a remaster of the trilogy now. Which given the constant posts saying 'I miss Shepard' and 'where's my Garrus the new companions suck' seems to be what people really wanted, the exact same thing but shinier. I will be rather disappointed if we don't get more Ryder, she had more potential as a character than Shepard ever did. |
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Post by OdanUrr on May 10, 2017 20:31:53 GMT
But yet Dragon Age Inquisition still was able to produce three highly successful, high quality DLCs. That is highly debatable. |
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Post by paradigm on May 10, 2017 20:31:59 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. If IF they cancel DLC it would be because of sales, not bitching. And if the sales don't support DLC that's on EA/Bioware, not the customers. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 10, 2017 20:33:58 GMT
EA's response is "public relations" and "damage control". The franchise is going to be milked for what it is worth and then discarded. If everyone was praising this game so highly do you really think they would have dared to scale back anything or give any indication that development for sequels or DLC or whatever would slow down? EA is about the money. This is bad for money. Its bad publicity. That isn't good for the franchise. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the final ME gave we get. They might consider a remaster of the trilogy now. What's the point? They won't go back change the controls and mechanics so why gimmickly remaster something for marginally crisper visuals |
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Post by blueasari on May 10, 2017 20:35:11 GMT
They might consider a remaster of the trilogy now. Which given the constant posts saying 'I miss Shepard' and 'where's my Garrus the new companions suck' seems to be what people really wanted, the exact same thing but shinier. I will be rather disappointed if we don't get more Ryder, she had more potential as a character than Shepard ever did. I have only played through one time but I never liked anything about Ryder, just my opinion though. The problem from the start is no one could ever live up to Shepard. |
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Post by jclosed on May 10, 2017 20:35:56 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. As opposed to keeping your mouth shut and get stuck with a sub-par product?
Nope - People could have pointed out bugs without going into a mouth foaming endless rage. You know - pointing out things calmly in stead of slamming it in their faces and fill page after page with endless complaints. Than you would maybe have a "sub-par" (your opinion, not mine) game for now, but at least an chance to have some nice improvements, maybe a good DLC and (probably) an improved game in the future. No you only have a "sub-par" game with nothing coming any more (except for some bug-fixes if we are lucky) . I guess this is your ideal situation and you are extremely happy with it. Me - not so much... |
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Post by blueasari on May 10, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
They might consider a remaster of the trilogy now. What's the point? They won't go back change the controls and mechanics so why gimmickly remaster something for marginally crisper visuals What do you mean whats the point? Easy money for EA for starters, many fans would love a remaster and it will bring in new fans who never played them on the older consoles. I wouldn't want them to change the controls anyway, updated visuals will just be a plus. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 10, 2017 20:37:25 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. I suppose sucking up and letting companies get away with buggy games is the better way to go.  Right. I shouldn't complain that Andromeda was fundamentally broken for the PS4 at launch? Give me a break. Patch 1.05 was put out in a month and got the game going again for me. I didn't buy the game to sift through EA's HQ site or get the runaround from PSN. This is all on EA and Bioware. All of it. Saddens me, but this is real life. Derp. |
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Post by vonuber on May 10, 2017 20:37:32 GMT
The problem from the start is no one could ever live up to Shepard. And you have just summed up why for a lot of people ME:A was never going to be enough unless you got your power fantasy, which is really all Shep as a character is. This is why, for me, Ryder has bags more room for growth. |
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Post by London on May 10, 2017 20:38:14 GMT
Not surprised. ME-Trilogy is among my all time favorite games, but I have no intention on buying any DLC for ME:A or future games in the series after this latest outing.
The game was mediocre at best and who can blame a company for not wanting to produce more of this crap without taking time to assess where they messed up.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 10, 2017 20:38:46 GMT
What's the point? They won't go back change the controls and mechanics so why gimmickly remaster something for marginally crisper visuals What do you mean whats the point? Easy money for EA for starters, many fans would love a remaster and it will bring in new fans who never played them on the older consoles. I wouldn't want them to change the controls anyway, updated visuals will just be a plus. I would buy it if it was a dramatic change like the difference between ps2 and PS4 ratchet and clank with grey visuals, scale, and controls. Waste of time and resources otherwise when they could make dlc or a new game |
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Post by colfoley on May 10, 2017 20:38:58 GMT
But yet Dragon Age Inquisition still was able to produce three highly successful, high quality DLCs. That is highly debatable. Sure. But by most metrics DA I was successful, critically, and it made EA a crap ton of money apparently if we are to again believe, there much more specific, commentary about how it was the fastest launch in BioWare history, etc. etc. etc, and the very real likliehood we will see more Dragon Age in the future. As far as the quality comment yes that comes down to personal taste, but from my own taste, the only one that really matters, Trespasser took Dragon Age and turned it into my favorite series in all of gaming. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 10, 2017 20:39:22 GMT
Hmmm. There was news some time back that EA was putting significant money on their Montréal studios, most assumed it included BioWare, so I wonder if there's been a change of plans or either this or that are wrong. Mass Effect on hiatus is disappointing, but I wonder if it's really a hiatus or just that they'll be focusing on Secret IP and DA while only a small core ME team figures out what's next for them, ie. if they are going to fo what the DA team has been doing until very recently. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Bioware is downsizing. Hopefully in the HR and PR sections and hire someone who gets these millenials and my generation that doesn't grasp or understand that art is not a commodity. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:40:05 GMT
Which given the constant posts saying 'I miss Shepard' and 'where's my Garrus the new companions suck' seems to be what people really wanted, the exact same thing but shinier. I will be rather disappointed if we don't get more Ryder, she had more potential as a character than Shepard ever did. I have only played through one time but I never liked anything about Ryder, just my opinion though. The problem from the start is no one could ever live up to Shepard. That's what they said about Shatner's Kirk, but then we got Stewart's Picard. In MEA's case, we went from Shatner's Kirk to...Chris Pine's Kirk. |
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Post by abaris on May 10, 2017 20:40:55 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. So your argument is, one should bow down and take everything on one's stride in order to get more of the same. If noone's "bitching" as you call it, when an obviously unfinished product is shipped, it lowers the bars considerably. The next product will turn out accordingly and it stands to argue if the next product is needed if that turns out to be the standard. Now, with that out of the way, there has been a lot of unfair criticism that was louder than valid complaints at times. Suffice to say that not even a lot of professional reviewers didn't rate this top notch. Which is probably a first for an AAA title in the last decade. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 10, 2017 20:42:06 GMT
Honestly, I wouldn't mind. I suggested this after ME3 already. Let it sit for a while, let it rest. THen come back with something new and fresh. Not sure if it makes so much sense to do it now but I don't mind. Also, letting Montreal go back to the support role that they came from is probably a good idea. I haven't seen anything come out of that BW studio that could really hold a candle to what the Edmonton guys used to do. So if this turns out to be true, I'm ok with it. Obviously, if they do downsize and as a result people are being let go, I do hope they'll have no trouble finding jobs elsewhere quickly. I am not saying I want people fired, I am just saying that this team as it was put together for this project, while making a fun game, didn't quite hold up to the standard that I would like to see for future ME games. Where in Montreal, man? Montreal isn't particularly big on tech. They're going to have to hit Vancouver, Edmonton or the states to find work that isn't just about minimum wage. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:42:10 GMT
As opposed to keeping your mouth shut and get stuck with a sub-par product?
Nope - People could have pointed out bugs without going into a mouth foaming endless rage. You know - pointing out things calmly in stead of slamming it in their faces and fill page after page with endless complaints. Than you would maybe have a "sub-par" (your opinion, not mine) game for now, but at least an chance to have some nice improvements, maybe a good DLC and (probably) an improved game in the future. No you only have a "sub-par" game with nothing coming any more (except for some bug-fixes if we are lucky) . I guess this is your ideal situation and you are extremely happy with it. Me - not so much... I applaud you Sir. You nailed it right in the head. |
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Post by snook on May 10, 2017 20:43:09 GMT
Disappointing, but...I guess that makes Dragon Age BioWare's 'flagship' franchise now. I'll be naively optimistic and hope that maybe this means good things for DA4?
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Post by Psychevore on May 10, 2017 20:43:24 GMT
How does one conclude from this article that there won't be DLC or patches anymore?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:43:58 GMT
That is highly debatable. Sure. But by most metrics DA I was successful, critically, and it made EA a crap ton of money apparently if we are to again believe, there much more specific, commentary about how it was the fastest launch in BioWare history, etc. etc. etc, and the very real likliehood we will see more Dragon Age in the future. As far as the quality comment yes that comes down to personal taste, but from my own taste, the only one that really matters, Trespasser took Dragon Age and turned it into my favorite series in all of gaming. And basically destroyed what enjoyment I managed to laboriously extricate from the Inquisition. But apart of putting my hands helplessly wide to the sides and saying: "I don't get it" there is really nothing for it.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 10, 2017 20:44:12 GMT
They might consider a remaster of the trilogy now. They won't go back change the controls and mechanics so why gimmickly remaster something for marginally crisper visuals Out of all the remasters that have been released, MET was the only one I wanted. Well, for one thing minimalistic effort with a pretty good chance of a high reward. Plus, you can get somewhat a decent gauge of fanbase interest. Say couple years down the line they "remaster" it you can then see if fans want more ME. Because, I don't see a ME5 announcement till at least 2020. Given that Dylan and possibly DA4 is in the works. |
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Post by AGECCR on May 10, 2017 20:45:29 GMT
I think they will continue on with their planned DLC's and finish Andromeda out. A lot of story threads might get tied up, some threads may remain for the future game to address.
I don't think ME is going "Bye-bye", it just might be a few years before we have anything else from the franchise. The team's going to need to give serious thought to what they want to do with it.
I do hope Ryder and crew come back, though.
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