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Post by ioannisdenton on May 12, 2017 8:06:03 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. MAN MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Both my TOP loved game series on hiatus while online crap get sequels. WIldlands sold millions
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Post by projectpatdc on May 12, 2017 8:38:39 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. MAN MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Both my TOP loved game series on hiatus while online crap get sequels. WIldlands sold millions Maybe America needs to be nuked. At least it will help clean out the trash for a while. J/k but kinda not really. I do appreciate the fact that more intelligent and meaningful games seem to sell better in the U.K., Europe and other parts of the world. Yet another generic shooter exceeds expectations with my trash brethren
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 8:42:43 GMT
MAN MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Both my TOP loved game series on hiatus while online crap get sequels. WIldlands sold millions Maybe America needs to be nuked. At least it will help clean out the trash for a while. J/k but kinda not really.
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Post by correctamundo on May 12, 2017 8:54:09 GMT
Well, this is Forbes not Kotaku and this guy at least spoke with Mike Gamble. I don't believe he will made that article if those rumours will be just pure science-fiction. Of course nothing is confirmed and many people will not believe in anything which is not coming from EA/BioWare, but I just don't believe we will get any statement from them.
Yes he spoke to Gamble on the cliffhangers and Gamble's reply was... "I actually spoke with Andromeda’s producer, Michael Gamble, to get answers. Most of what he told me was that the answers would come in future content or game..." So?
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Post by ioannisdenton on May 12, 2017 8:57:53 GMT
Slopes be slippery, boyeh! But seriously though, I can see why people would fear that. Patches I would say are kind of a thing that need to happen for the long-term benefit of the game if they have a strong incentive to make money on the product. DLC, well who knows. DA got a shit-ton of hate when it came out, but it has some of my favorite DLC in that franchise other than Trespasser, so we'll see. Frankly I don't really fear that the franchise will simply disappear, but I'd like the life of this particular game to be extended at least. I don't see that. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain DA2 got a much worse response and even that game got DLC and patches. Eurogamer wrote at somepoint that andromeda is bioware's worst rpg... The press never banished da2. This time the press was really bitching in ther double standards. When andromeda got released it was an apocalyspe When bethesda and rockstars released BROKEN games it was monday
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Post by kumazan on May 12, 2017 9:03:34 GMT
Well, this is Forbes not Kotaku and this guy at least spoke with Mike Gamble. I don't believe he will made that article if those rumours will be just pure science-fiction. Of course nothing is confirmed and many people will not believe in anything which is not coming from EA/BioWare, but I just don't believe we will get any statement from them.
Yes he spoke to Gamble on the cliffhangers and Gamble's reply was... "I actually spoke with Andromeda’s producer, Michael Gamble, to get answers. Most of what he told me was that the answers would come in future content or game..." So? Not to sound too negative, but plans might change. Gamble said that to him before all this controversy happened, possibly even before launch, and the article's autor is adressing this now saying that there "may not be future content or games". OTOH, he doesn't seem to have anything new on this beyond Kotaku's article and a gut feeling based on ME:A's lukewarm reception.
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Post by llandwynwyn on May 12, 2017 9:43:40 GMT
The reason everyone (media and fans) blasted MEA was due to past mistakes that they (BW) continued on.
That's it. People loved FO3, FNV (superior modern FO), Oblivion and Skyrim is considered a masterpiece (why I'll never know). So that FO4 wasn't up to "standard", was disappointing but hey let's give them a pass.
Going back to BW, DAI was successful. People say it was a weak year, doesn't matter. What does is the release of TW3. General public still likes DAI, but with TW3 it's seem now as lesser than. It'll always be so.
BioWare (and/or EA) can't grasp that OW needs to feel alive, and that is: weather; day cycle; non static npc; towns; quests that use exploration in a meaningful way, world manipulation and etc. Bioware (and/or EA)needs to understand that to release a cinematic game in this age means they can't rely on their subpar animation pack from the early 00's.
That's not me as a gamer, I'm far more forgiving when I play, but expectations from the general public.
My heart is heavy from this news (is it confirmed?), but I was kinda expecting. Only those in deep denial couldn't see what was happening. Really worried about DA, hopefully the new IP is a success and makes BW favorable to EA for a little more time.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 9:48:10 GMT
"That doesn’t mean there will never be another Mass Effect game, of course. It’s unlikely that BioWare will kill the popular sci-fi franchise." "Earlier this week on an earnings call, Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson told investors that the publisher is “very happy with how BioWare is doing, how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. And our expectations for Mass Effect are still strong for the future and the franchise overall.”" kotaku.com/sources-bioware-montreal-downsized-mass-effect-put-on-1795100285
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Post by correctamundo on May 12, 2017 9:50:47 GMT
Yes he spoke to Gamble on the cliffhangers and Gamble's reply was... "I actually spoke with Andromeda’s producer, Michael Gamble, to get answers. Most of what he told me was that the answers would come in future content or game..." So? Not to sound too negative, but plans might change. Gamble said that to him before all this controversy happened, possibly even before launch, and the article's autor is adressing this now saying that there "may not be future content or games". OTOH, he doesn't seem to have anything new on this beyond Kotaku's article and a gut feeling based on ME:A's lukewarm reception. Yes he spoke to Gamble around launch but the person I was quoting tried to tote it off as the author spoke to Gamble now, specifically in regards to the kotaku click-bait. But he didn't. The Forbes author added nothing new to the table to increase the credibility of this "story". It is true we know next to nothing about the situation except that Bioware did the exact same thing to the DA team when DAI was shipped. For some reason the forbes author doesn't seem to think that that means we will not see another DA game. On the contrary he notes "add onto that a probable new Dragon Age...". And then there is Gamble (or was it Frasier) who tweeted in regards to the kotaku story that their plans for for the future of MEA (as laid out by Flynns blogpost (which is somewhat vague about the longer perspective of course)) has not changed.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 12, 2017 10:18:11 GMT
Yes he spoke to Gamble on the cliffhangers and Gamble's reply was... "I actually spoke with Andromeda’s producer, Michael Gamble, to get answers. Most of what he told me was that the answers would come in future content or game..." So? Not to sound too negative, but plans might change. Gamble said that to him before all this controversy happened, possibly even before launch, and the article's autor is adressing this now saying that there "may not be future content or games". OTOH, he doesn't seem to have anything new on this beyond Kotaku's article and a gut feeling based on ME:A's lukewarm reception.It's a non-story that has turned this forum into a maudlin mess. The horse kicking is long past like the hype train that blew past a week ago. The DLC will build upon the foundation already laid and hopefully, it will keep the game in people's hands while Bioware plunges into Dylan or DA4. I love it when I hear Bioware saying that they took enough gut-punching. They got the message. All we can hope is that they keep improving and EA better not cheap out. They also better understand that EA isn't remotely responsible for Bioware's previous success. I should say, Bioware has been successful in spite of EA. So, yeah... the people there are now veterans of Frostbite and they got burned through a trial of fire. Let's see how tough they are and make something memorable. They've done it before with Omega. Carrie Anne Moss and that whole team kicked ass. Aria is iconic. That's a solid piece of DLC right there.
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Post by Hrulj on May 12, 2017 10:20:34 GMT
"I dont understand. You are a woman. Yet you dress and fight like a man. In Qun women are teachers and caretakers. Women have no place fighting on a battlefield" Sten, curent leader of Qun faith in DA:O on gender roles. They are rigid, woman is a woman and there is no changing that. Then DAI comes and shits all over the established lore to push an agenda. And you wonder how people are upset? What role did transexual nature of that character play except to preach? Did they return to their female role to seduce a character and kill them off, or did anything where gender bending benefits them? Of course not. Or maybe priests know a lot more about the minutiae of the Qun than soldiers. That soldier, Sten is shown to be now the head of Qunari faith. He should know.
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Post by aglomeracja on May 12, 2017 10:23:49 GMT
Or maybe priests know a lot more about the minutiae of the Qun than soldiers. That soldier, Sten is shown to be now the head of Qunari faith. He should know. Every Qunari should know it, the role of women in such strickt society can't be some kind of hidden knowledge.
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Post by Ieldra on May 12, 2017 10:27:23 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect.
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Post by kumazan on May 12, 2017 10:36:50 GMT
Cyan_Griffonclaw and correctamundo - yes, that's what I was trying to say, that the forbes article can't really be used to argue one way or the other because it really doesn't add anything new. I remain cautiously optimistic, but I can't deny a growing concern which can only be stopped by BioWare speaking up, which doesn't sound like will happen anytime soon.
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Post by paridave42 on May 12, 2017 10:44:33 GMT
This thread is funny. Most franchises take a break after a release: they go dark, they evaluate sales figures because it's all about making money. They don't completely shut down a franchise that's making money, that's not how you please stockholders.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 12, 2017 10:44:40 GMT
Cyan_Griffonclaw and correctamundo - yes, that's what I was trying to say, that the forbes article can't really be used to argue one way or the other because it really doesn't add anything new. I remain cautiously optimistic, but I can't deny a growing concern which can only be stopped by BioWare speaking up, which doesn't sound like will happen anytime soon. That's on EA. EA probably has their legal team watching everything that is said. EA has sowed enough bad kharma that they're paranoid. They did it to themselves. They're complete failures at marketing and PR. The worst. Volkswagen screwed hundreds of thousands of people over their emissions scandal and they're still no where near the level of apathy that EA has created. Don't blame the fans, the fans were literally trained to take up their credit cards and say, "No mas bendejos." Before EA, I bought shirts, mugs, basically anything that said Bioware, Mass Effect or Dragon Age. Now, I can't even bring myself to get hyped until the development cycle is over so I don't feel like I just wasted money. EA's like, it's just $65, $95, $125, etc. and higher.?!? And we're like, there are other choices. Lots of other choices.
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Post by London on May 12, 2017 10:52:12 GMT
If the fans aren't able to behave like adults and offer constructive feedback for a product that they as fans are supposed to like, then yes I blame them of blowing the evident flaws of the game out of proportion. The game had its problems but they are not preventing from enjoying a good albeit not outstanding experience. Well it's a good bet most of them are not adults based on the way they throw temper tantrums...and those that are technically legally adults that post that kind of garbage I would consider even worse...since at least kids have that excuse. Oh please. Stating that a product isn't good doesn't make one a child. I regret buying ME:A after 1.05 on PC broke my game after 40 hours. 100s on the tech forums could t play on PC after 1.05 and it took over a month for a new patch. I have no idea if 1.06 fixed anything but as I uninstalled after wasting hours trying to get the piece of shit game to work at all, I don't even care. What was was I wasting my time on? A mediocre experience at best? No thanks. Insulting people who are simply unhappy with this game won't make MEA a better experience, sell more, or be worthy of some of our time. Which as ADULTS is limited.
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Post by steamshipman on May 12, 2017 10:54:28 GMT
Pardon my English and being 2 pages late... What ideology is that? The fact that sexual orientation and gender identity are actual things that exist in the world? This is a neat cheap trick. "You argue about, like, simple fact? Must be dumb." Seen it a lot, and congrats, it's irritating. I live in a third world post USSR country in Central Asia, with growing Islamization of population. So while through media current western values and tendencies has its influence on population here, they are not assimilated in local ideology in any way. As I understand it, I'm bigot by western standards(strange word for me actually). I'm pretty liberal by local standards though So now, when I have that nice excuse " to spouse a hateful speech" I shall freely express my honest opinion. You know what? There is no analogue for word "gender" in both local language nor in Russian . We have only analogue for "sex" as " Either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions." We literally had to loanword your "gender" word to even figure out what were you talking about. To deal with your BS, so to speak. To read the 'helicopter-people' piece and to watch that 'I identify as dolphin' South Park episode was truly mind boggling for me and my friends. I mean I totally understand that this is reality and that there is many issues related to it (I watched "House M.D." series multiple times). So I understand trans as something close to physiological condition. I also understand that said reality can be very harsh to those people. And it should not be. Still I'm more or less LGBTphobic. I like books, I read a lot and taking my personal knowledge of the world into consideration I think that for members of any society that doesn't have homosexual relationships as something well known or common, any mentioning of such relationships is met with genuine disgust. So I can assume that it's natural reaction for heterosexuals unless they really lack any imagination or had to grow a thicker skin because reasons. Just being different is totally not a reason to suffer from other people, nor a reason for depravity. It's either not a reason to dictate rules for society. Man uses womens lavatory, wtf? After these news talks about 'rotting West' become a thing again where I live There are pieces of media with gay characters who I really sympathize with. Some of them just awesome and sometimes I can say I wish I was like them, except that one thing. However there are other instances where characters presented like big garish poster saying something like "Being gay/trance is so, SO NORMAL! It's, like, totally ok!"... yeah. Smile and wave. This is flat out angers me. It's like saying "Hi man! Let's deny some reality here! You don't want? We will made you". So. If I gather this right, it's not the fact that actual things exist in the world that bothers people (well, reasonable people). It's dictating on how you should perceive and deal with them.
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Post by London on May 12, 2017 11:00:14 GMT
Being different is totally not a reason to suffer from other people, nor a reason for depravity. (((Can't exit the quote on my iPad but this is what was worthwhile to me from the above, which I otherwise found troubling given recent events I. Russia for LGBT people. Doesn't sound like the poster is in Russia but comments like "genuine disgust" and "anger" over LGBT people being treated as normal is concerning.
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Post by mordivier on May 12, 2017 11:05:00 GMT
So. If I gather this right, it's not the fact that actual things exist in the world that bothers people (well, reasonable people). It's dictating on how you should perceive and deal with them. You sir have said it exactly the way it is. ...and that is the single most infuriating thing that Bioware continues to do. You couldn't criticism Krem in DAI for being transgender when it was a female behaving like a male. You couldn't criticize Dorian for being what He was either; you could only be "ignorant" or supportive. Fast forward to Mass Effect Andromeda and we have a social propaganda checklist from the liberals/progressives/sjw ideology that presents this stuff in this game(its also supposed to be a role-playing game -- with the emphasis on a historical context of being riddled with CHOICES you make for your character with an overall background story your a part of) and we cannot be negative towards it. Its sad, really. I would have applauded Bioware way more if they included ALL options. Bigotry, hypocrisy, negative, positive, supportive, indifferent; ALL of it. That would have made for a great scenario in all of these contexts...but no; we get the liberal BS and that will only get worse. Its like a damn snowball down a hill.
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Post by sageoflife on May 12, 2017 11:15:25 GMT
Or maybe priests know a lot more about the minutiae of the Qun than soldiers. That soldier, Sten is shown to be now the head of Qunari faith. He should know. Wrong. The Arishok is head of the military. The head of the faith itself is the Ariqun.
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Post by Ahriman on May 12, 2017 11:16:59 GMT
I live in a third world post USSR country in Central Asia, with growing Islamization of population. Hmm, Kazakhstan much?
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Post by London on May 12, 2017 11:20:16 GMT
So. If I gather this right, it's not the fact that actual things exist in the world that bothers people (well, reasonable people). It's dictating on how you should perceive and deal with them. You sir have said it exactly the way it is. ...and that is the single most infuriating thing that Bioware continues to do. You couldn't criticism Krem in DAI for being transgender when it was a female behaving like a male. You couldn't criticize Dorian for being what He was either; you could only be "ignorant" or supportive. Fast forward to Mass Effect Andromeda and we have a social propaganda checklist from the liberals/progressives/sjw ideology that presents this stuff in this game(its also supposed to be a role-playing game -- with the emphasis on a historical context of being riddled with CHOICES you make for your character with an overall background story your a part of) and we cannot be negative towards it. Its sad, really. I would have applauded Bioware way more if they included ALL options. Bigotry, hypocrisy, negative, positive, supportive, indifferent; ALL of it. That would have made for a great scenario in all of these contexts...but no; we get the liberal BS and that will only get worse. Its like a damn snowball down a hill. Sorry BioWare didn't write in bigot as a RP option. Some choices have no place in games.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 12, 2017 11:38:05 GMT
Pardon my English and being 2 pages late... What ideology is that? The fact that sexual orientation and gender identity are actual things that exist in the world? This is a neat cheap trick. "You argue about, like, simple fact? Must be dumb." Seen it a lot, and congrats, it's irritating. I live in a third world post USSR country in Central Asia, with growing Islamization of population. So while through media current western values and tendencies has its influence on population here, they are not assimilated in local ideology in any way. As I understand it, I'm bigot by western standards(strange word for me actually). I'm pretty liberal by local standards though So now, when I have that nice excuse " to spouse a hateful speech" I shall freely express my honest opinion. You know what? There is no analogue for word "gender" in both local language nor in Russian . We have only analogue for "sex" as " Either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions." We literally had to loanword your "gender" word to even figure out what were you talking about. To deal with your BS, so to speak. To read the 'helicopter-people' piece and to watch that 'I identify as dolphin' South Park episode was truly mind boggling for me and my friends. I mean I totally understand that this is reality and that there is many issues related to it (I watched "House M.D." series multiple times). So I understand trans as something close to physiological condition. I also understand that said reality can be very harsh to those people. And it should not be. Still I'm more or less LGBTphobic. I like books, I read a lot and taking my personal knowledge of the world into consideration I think that for members of any society that doesn't have homosexual relationships as something well known or common, any mentioning of such relationships is met with genuine disgust. So I can assume that it's natural reaction for heterosexuals unless they really lack any imagination or had to grow a thicker skin because reasons. Just being different is totally not a reason to suffer from other people, nor a reason for depravity. It's either not a reason to dictate rules for society. Man uses womens lavatory, wtf? After these news talks about 'rotting West' become a thing again where I live There are pieces of media with gay characters who I really sympathize with. Some of them just awesome and sometimes I can say I wish I was like them, except that one thing. However there are other instances where characters presented like big garish poster saying something like "Being gay/trance is so, SO NORMAL! It's, like, totally ok!"... yeah. Smile and wave. This is flat out angers me. It's like saying "Hi man! Let's deny some reality here! You don't want? We will made you". So. If I gather this right, it's not the fact that actual things exist in the world that bothers people (well, reasonable people). It's dictating on how you should perceive and deal with them. From what I'm hearing, it's something you don't want to see, but that's the author's prerogative. Of course, in reality, the LGBT is a minority in the overall scheme of things and that should be taken into consideration looking at the franchise as a whole. However, Dorian is Dorian. A wonderfully written character that I enjoyed having as a friend in Inquisition. He was a badass mage that had class and flair. I'm a heterosexual male. I could care less what his sexuality is, he's a proven ally of the Inquisition. Besides, when I'm on the prowl, I don't have to worry about him hitting the same target. He's got character. I don't care what he does in the bedroom. He's not a threat to my sexuality and he's well written enough that he's not going to engage me that way unless I encourage that. Transgendered folk like Krem are unusual, but hardly rare, especially in combat units. I get what you're coming from, but I say again, live and let live. It's art and fantasy or science fiction. Once the game is in your hands, it's yours alone to control. You decide how you're going to deal with it. How would you want to be treated? I stick with the golden rule. However, we're entitled to our opinions. I, for one, just don't care enough what one person is doing behind closed doors. Just pull your weight in whatever role you have.
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Post by goishen on May 12, 2017 12:00:18 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. What they mean by that is micotransactions. They want to consistently be taking money out of your wallet, instead of just the one time.
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