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Post by shootist on May 12, 2017 12:05:05 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. No DLC then. Well, I guess, I will pick the full Obsidian Revival line on steam sales this summer. The game is crap. Good riddance. I am so disappointed. It's been downhill since ME2.
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Post by steamshipman on May 12, 2017 12:18:13 GMT
comments like "genuine disgust" and "anger" over LGBT people being treated as normal is concerning. Well, rightfully so. Being LGBT is not healthy here. For relationships, career and horrifyingly, for health too sometimes. I sincerely hope it will change. I believe that education can help and I hate preaching. As for comments - "genuine disgust" - imagine in details some sexual deviation you find intolerable and you'll have common reaction to LGBT. And things like those parades are perceived as "eat our shit!" message from people for whom you have no respect at all. Here comes the anger. Close. Kyrgyzstan. From what I'm hearing, it's something you don't want to see, but that's the author's prerogative. Of course, in reality, the LGBT is a minority in the overall scheme of things and that should be taken into consideration looking at the franchise as a whole. However, Dorian is Dorian. I kinda hate inquisition but Dorian is Dorian. I liked the character. All of it except loyalty quest. There I didn't like given responses. Liked Zevran. This is authors prerogative indeed. The problem with franchises is that at first it was perfectly normal and balanced then suddenly as Laughing Man described them, 'pet issues' raised liked mushrooms after rain all around. The thing is, after you created something and gave it to public, it's not quite yours anymore in some way. You shared it with public and what you shared now belongs to them. You are not free to do whatever you want. If somewhat pet issues was one of main themes from very beginning I don't thing there would be such uproar as we have now. I think I do that too. That's why I would never, let's say, sit in public picking my nose even if I would know that nobody would dare to say a thing. If I'm different in something, I respect rules of place where I am enough to not demonstrate my differences and demanding special treatment.
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Post by Hrulj on May 12, 2017 12:19:37 GMT
That soldier, Sten is shown to be now the head of Qunari faith. He should know. Wrong. The Arishok is head of the military. The head of the faith itself is the Ariqun. One and the same, educated enough to know that in Qun society Transexuality makes them incredulous
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Post by sageoflife on May 12, 2017 12:33:38 GMT
Wrong. The Arishok is head of the military. The head of the faith itself is the Ariqun. One and the same, educated enough to know that in Qun society Transexuality makes them incredulous No, the Arishok and the Ariqun are separate individuals with their own areas of expertise.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 12:46:01 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. Their next IP Codenamed "Dylan" will be a live service game. Not quite sure how to describe it. Like Destiny/The Division, it will be always online, but have both a single player and multiplayer component to it. Live service sounds like buzzwords. Imagine going off on your own possibly with companions while doing story missions, but having a large hub area where other players meet, team up, do raids/dungeons and the like. It is sort of like an mmo, but at the same time it isn't. The core of the Dragon Age team, like 30% of Bioware Edmonton is not working on this new IP, and they are most likely working on Dragon Age 4. After that, who knows? Mass Effect failed, Dragon Age might get its last entry to close up storylines.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 12:46:58 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. What they mean by that is micotransactions. They want to consistently be taking money out of your wallet, instead of just the one time. With the crappy industry standards we have today, what do you prefer? Season Pass or Microtransactions? Atleast Bioware has kept season pass away from their games and microtransactions is an optional feature.
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Post by goishen on May 12, 2017 12:48:46 GMT
Yah, that's gonna change.
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The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. Their next IP Codenamed "Dylan" will be a live service game. Not quite sure how to describe it. Like Destiny/The Division, it will be always online, but have both a single player and multiplayer component to it. Live service sounds like buzzwords. Imagine going off on your own possibly with companions while doing story missions, but having a large hub area where other players meet, team up, do raids/dungeons and the like. It is sort of like an mmo, but at the same time it isn't. The core of the Dragon Age team, like 30% of Bioware Edmonton is not working on this new IP, and they are most likely working on Dragon Age 4. After that, who knows? Mass Effect failed, Dragon Age might get its last entry to close up storylines. Yes, wait and see. If Dylan has a good sci-fi IP, and the SP portion is by necessity short, we can actually get an SP campaign that is an old-fashioned 10-20 hours of tighter quests, and most of the repetitive side-quests and gear grind will end up moved to the MP dungeons and raids, so it could be worth buying for SP, if you do not have time/talent/friends for a daily grind. As long as you get the good enough gear to finish SP in SP, that's a fine set-up.
MP and gearing is what really is objectionable about MMOs when you do not have MMO-friends. But the trouble is that pug problems often make developers push the MP component harder than necessary, so if that happens, the game is not worth it. They never really were a company that supplied MP content in a prolific enough way to keep the MP modes going. ME3MP was nice, but they tweaked what was hyper-appealing about it (its easy on the casual player attitude) imo in favor of a more standard hard-grinder & reward hours spent model. If Dylan moves that way on the raids (i.e. do at least 4 raids a day/farm the highest difficulty raid daily for as many times as possible or fall hopelessly behind)
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Post by projectpatdc on May 12, 2017 14:10:19 GMT
Maybe America needs to be nuked. At least it will help clean out the trash for a while. J/k but kinda not really. Right???? Curse you EAaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Totally kidding
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Post by Ieldra on May 12, 2017 14:34:26 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. Their next IP Codenamed "Dylan" will be a live service game. Not quite sure how to describe it. Like Destiny/The Division, it will be always online, but have both a single player and multiplayer component to it. Live service sounds like buzzwords. Imagine going off on your own possibly with companions while doing story missions, but having a large hub area where other players meet, team up, do raids/dungeons and the like. It is sort of like an mmo, but at the same time it isn't. The core of the Dragon Age team, like 30% of Bioware Edmonton is not working on this new IP, and they are most likely working on Dragon Age 4. After that, who knows? Mass Effect failed, Dragon Age might get its last entry to close up storylines. Thanks for the info. Do those games require subscriptions?
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Post by Ieldra on May 12, 2017 14:36:51 GMT
The kotaku article says Bioware will now "put emphasis on 'live service' games". Can someone please explain what that means? "Destiny" was mentioned but since I've never played it (read "primarily MP" and went away without giving it further attention) I don't know what to expect. What they mean by that is micotransactions. They want to consistently be taking money out of your wallet, instead of just the one time. If that's non-optional, count me out. There are enough other games to play.
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Their next IP Codenamed "Dylan" will be a live service game. Not quite sure how to describe it. Like Destiny/The Division, it will be always online, but have both a single player and multiplayer component to it. Live service sounds like buzzwords. Imagine going off on your own possibly with companions while doing story missions, but having a large hub area where other players meet, team up, do raids/dungeons and the like. It is sort of like an mmo, but at the same time it isn't. The core of the Dragon Age team, like 30% of Bioware Edmonton is not working on this new IP, and they are most likely working on Dragon Age 4. After that, who knows? Mass Effect failed, Dragon Age might get its last entry to close up storylines. Thanks for the info. Do those games require subscriptions? I think there are multiple models, and there is no way to predict what BioWARE will do. B2P or P2P or an F2P with nickeling and diming... there are so many ways to milk the MP crowd.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 14:41:32 GMT
Their next IP Codenamed "Dylan" will be a live service game. Not quite sure how to describe it. Like Destiny/The Division, it will be always online, but have both a single player and multiplayer component to it. Live service sounds like buzzwords. Imagine going off on your own possibly with companions while doing story missions, but having a large hub area where other players meet, team up, do raids/dungeons and the like. It is sort of like an mmo, but at the same time it isn't. The core of the Dragon Age team, like 30% of Bioware Edmonton is not working on this new IP, and they are most likely working on Dragon Age 4. After that, who knows? Mass Effect failed, Dragon Age might get its last entry to close up storylines. Thanks for the info. Do those games require subscriptions? Only if you're on Xbox or PS4 because of live and PSN. On PC? Nope. The game might have a season pass and optional cosmetic microtransactions.
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Post by alanc9 on May 12, 2017 15:21:30 GMT
"Slightly" because the qunari already are fairly close to our current beliefs -- if not practices -- WRT race, in contrast to the rest of Thedas. And of course there's no actual chance here. The Qun wasn't designed by throwing darts at an anthropology textbook. Don't be daft, man. Qunari are fairly close to "our" current beliefs? If you are a Communist / Marxist maybe.
And yeah, obviously they weren't designed by chance, that point was included to make a political statement.
Honestly, I wouldn't care at all about the mere inclusion of a trans character if they didn't feel the need to bend the Qunari lore for it.
Looks like you missed "WRT race" above. That's one specific area where qunari match us. Gender is another. There might be one or two more. And both the real version of the qunari and the version you made up in your head would be political statements.
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Post by alanc9 on May 12, 2017 15:25:28 GMT
"Believe him" in what sense? The Qun is whatever the writers say it is. I suppose you can pretend that DAI didn't happen, but then what will you do when DA4 comes around? You were shown. You just misinterpreted what you were shown' and then you were shown more. "I dont understand. You are a woman. Yet you dress and fight like a man. In Qun women are teachers and caretakers. Women have no place fighting on a battlefield" Sten, curent leader of Qun faith in DA:O on gender roles. They are rigid, woman is a woman and there is no changing that. Then DAI comes and shits all over the established lore to push an agenda. And you wonder how people are upset? What role did transexual nature of that character play except to preach? Did they return to their female role to seduce a character and kill them off, or did anything where gender bending benefits them? Of course not. This is a problem with the Viddasala, perhaps, but not Krem. Krem is male.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 15:39:09 GMT
"I dont understand. You are a woman. Yet you dress and fight like a man. In Qun women are teachers and caretakers. Women have no place fighting on a battlefield" Sten, curent leader of Qun faith in DA:O on gender roles. They are rigid, woman is a woman and there is no changing that. Then DAI comes and shits all over the established lore to push an agenda. And you wonder how people are upset? What role did transexual nature of that character play except to preach? Did they return to their female role to seduce a character and kill them off, or did anything where gender bending benefits them? Of course not. This is a problem with the Viddasala, perhaps, but not Krem. Krem is male. Krem is quite clearly a female who wants to be a man.
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Post by LilTIM on May 12, 2017 15:53:54 GMT
So be a good fish and don't bite while they gut you.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 12, 2017 15:55:47 GMT
Indoctrination theory anyone?
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Post by linksocarina on May 12, 2017 16:09:22 GMT
This is a problem with the Viddasala, perhaps, but not Krem. Krem is male. Krem is quite clearly a female who wants to be a man. And under the Qun, he would be male, no? This the whole sticking point of this discussion, the interpretation of how the Qun, a fantasy philosophy based on a rigid system of control and efficiency, would see someone like Krem. He is clearly apt at being a soldier, therefore under the Qun wouldn't he be male because his skills as a soldier belong with the Qunari army? The same can be said with a female Warden, Sten at first rebuffs the Warden, but comes to respect her (or not) later in the game, does Sten see the Wardens aptitude, the Wardens abilities in her job description, as the warden being male as a Aqun-Athlock? This is why even if it is a retcon (and it likely is) it's a retcon that fits into the philosophy of the Qunari. So it's fair, id say. Ultimately, That seems to be the issue. That, and us putting real-world spins on interpretation of gender identity into this. We should cut that part out though.
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Post by smilesja on May 12, 2017 16:10:17 GMT
The reason everyone (media and fans) blasted MEA was due to past mistakes that they (BW) continued on. That's it. People loved FO3, FNV (superior modern FO), Oblivion and Skyrim is considered a masterpiece (why I'll never know). So that FO4 wasn't up to "standard", was disappointing but hey let's give them a pass. Going back to BW, DAI was successful. People say it was a weak year, doesn't matter. What does is the release of TW3. General public still likes DAI, but with TW3 it's seem now as lesser than. It'll always be so. BioWare (and/or EA) can't grasp that OW needs to feel alive, and that is: weather; day cycle; non static npc; towns; quests that use exploration in a meaningful way, world manipulation and etc. Bioware (and/or EA)needs to understand that to release a cinematic game in this age means they can't rely on their subpar animation pack from the early 00's. That's not me as a gamer, I'm far more forgiving when I play, but expectations from the general public. My heart is heavy from this news (is it confirmed?), but I was kinda expecting. Only those in deep denial couldn't see what was happening. Really worried about DA, hopefully the new IP is a success and makes BW favorable to EA for a little more time. This news is not true. And it was pretty lively to me.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 16:10:32 GMT
Krem is quite clearly a female who wants to be a man. And under the Qun, he would be male, no? Nope. Sten made that quite clear in DA:O.
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Post by linksocarina on May 12, 2017 16:11:49 GMT
And under the Qun, he would be male, no? Nope. Sten made that quite clear in DA:O. Except id say you're wrong about that. Especially considering how Sten reacts to a female warden, as stated in the rest of the previous post.
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Post by alanc9 on May 12, 2017 16:12:22 GMT
This is a problem with the Viddasala, perhaps, but not Krem. Krem is male. Krem is quite clearly a female who wants to be a man. That isn't clear. Why should external genitalia trump neurotyping? (And if that's the rule you want, how do we handle ambiguous genitalia? I suppose we could go non-binary for those since we're not really doing strict gender roles anymore, but that couldn't work for the Qun.) Note that in contemporary usage, a transgender woman is a woman. You may not like that usage, but we're already there.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 16:14:12 GMT
Nope. Sten made that quite clear in DA:O. Except id say you're wrong about that. Especially considering how Sten reacts to a female warden, as stated in the rest of the previous post. No, quite clearly the Qun and how Sten was "raised" led him to be surprised at women in combat. That he was challenged in those beliefs doesn't negate that he had those beliefs in the first place.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 12, 2017 16:16:22 GMT
Krem is quite clearly a female who wants to be a man. That isn't clear. Why should external genitalia trump neurotyping? (And if that's the rule you want, how do we handle ambiguous genitalia? I suppose we could go non-binary for those since we're not really doing strict gender roles anymore, but that couldn't work for the Qun.) Note that in contemporary usage, a transgender woman is a woman. You may not like that usage, but we're already there. It's made quite clear in the dialogue wheel when we have the opportunity to ask Krem why she "passes" as a man. A transgender is just that - someone who is one thing doing what they can to feel like something else. That doesn't mean they were not and are not what they started out to be, biologically.
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