Mass Effect hiatus speculation and reactions (consolidated thread)

Have fun with your slippery slope of equating homosexuality with beastiality, incest, and pedophilia.  I'd rather not engage in further discussion with you.

No, you're operating from a logical fallacy that's been discussed and disputed many times. That you don't see this and have concluded that I need to "run away" from this says enough.

Nothing I say will prevent you from believing as you do, and I prefer not to spend my time conversing with people like yourself. 

If you want to feel like you won this argument, so be it.  Your statements speak for themselves, IMO.

You're all way off topic guys. I suggest you both find another forum to discuss your political opinions.

I assumed that a forum veteran like you would be familiar with typical discussion board abbreviations, like IMHO. "WRT" = "With Respect To;" it indicates that the poster is only talking about the particular category mentioned, rather than about the topic more generally. In this case I was only talking about race.  I was saying that the qunari are more like us than they are like other cultures in Thedas,  in that they don't think that race is very significant.

The "us" there is 21st century Americans; I thought that was clear from the context.

Since you didn't understand what I was saying, why did you guess instead of asking for clarification? I know I said upthread that you make a habit of jumping to conclusions and then flailing around trying to defend the assumed conclusions, but I didn't expect you to illustrate the point for me.


Would you prefer "the Qun which Bioware wrote"? "Real" is a lot less long-winded, but I can go full pedant when I absolutely need to.


But they are authoritarian monsters in this as in everything else. Krem is male and would be treated as male. No choice involved.

Depends on the context of my character and what I wanted to say at the time. 

Yet, the entire incident of Krem was to give moral justification for the Qun not being as bad as others said because all you had to do was act like a man to be a man even if you were biologically a female. That, by default, implies that to be the opposite is to be morally wrong. 

What cinches this situation to be a political medium of real world politics is this; there are multiple places through the game where you can criticize the Maker and the whole Andraste thing, you can even say you don't believe in gods or whatever. Your presented with a situation and you can be supportive or negative towards it.

Not so with homosexuality or transgenderism. Its either your ignorant of what it really is or you support it or its "not my business"...but you cant say its wrong for whatever reason. At all. This no longer a position of role-playing. This is a position of being told what is right and wrong. Our options were deliberately curtailed because of a social agenda.

That is why its such an issue and it only became prevalent in recent years of because of real life social politics in representing an extreme minority. Well, the other groups of people I mentioned to London are minorities in the population as well...but you don't hear about it; Why? Because its still considered taboo. It is considered "morally wrong". A wicked act.

The irony is that people asked for Incest with the Ryders in MEA;




Oh, but lets not be "bigoted" towards that, shall we? Wouldn't want to be hypocritical. They exist too. They are a minority. What? No representation for them as well?

That's really all there is to be said about it. 

Ah, sure, probably Laughing Man should say "Krem is clearly a female who identifies as male", which is the very definition of transsexualism, instead of "wants to be a man", although the former usually implies the latter.

There already is a term for such person- it's "transsexual man".

Why not just a man? For the same reason why identifying yourself with a god\Napoleon\lizard\helicopter\etc doesn't make you one.

There are people who don't have standard chromosomes. What do they have to do with "neurotyping"?

No. It's a separate category for someone "biologically female who identifies as male". There is no such thing as subtype of man.



If someone would identify as lizard, that wouldn't make him a subtype of a lizard as well.


They are biologically female if they have XX chromosomes. If they don't identify with their biological gender then they are transsexual. 



I think discussing this further is pointless. Biology does exist and our language categories are based on it and we have specific terms for rare disorders. There is no point in mixing it up.

What fresh hell have I wandered into?
Anyway, so is this thing six feet under before we could even get any DLC? Maaaaaaan.

I don't think this is true. I mean, based on available facts, I absolutely believe that there are 'pre-coded' people. But I don't agree with "nobody chooses" part.

There were societies like ancient Greece or premodern Japan where homosexuality was pretty much institutionalized. So with reservations you can say that it was more or less cultural norm, and simple socialization could lead to homosexuality without requirement for any pre-codeness.

Fixed it for ya.

MEA sold at least close to the projected 3 million in the first week. I know you're just a troll, but come on. Be more creative than spewing debunked information. You probably think vaccines cause autism, too.