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Post by liquidsnake on May 17, 2017 14:21:45 GMT
I'd say people want to see the after effects in game. They want to see the reconstruction not be told about it, they want to see 12 ton gold statues if Shepard cause he/she is a legend, they want to see how synthesis, control, destroy work out. I don't particularly care about that as I think ME3 concluded it just fine. I still think we could've stayed in the MW galaxy however becaus there was much to explore that hadn't been explored. To me it makes more sense to map your own galaxy first before hitting an entirely new one light years away. I suppose I get that. However, I see it as every story has to end somewhere else. I'm happy that Andromeda is in the same Mass Effect gaming universe so we can see this tech and these races again but a completely separate tale that is unshackled by what came before. I'm glad Ryder isn't constantly in the massive shadow of Shepard (I suppose to some player he/she always will be because they compare this game to prior games), however in the context of the game itself and it's story, no one mentions Commander Shepard other than Alec Ryder's memory quest. Seeing the after-effects of the game can be said about literally any story ever and then there is never an end in sight because there will always be SOMETHING else we haven't seen the results of. In my mind, and seems like yours too, we already did see the results in ME3. I don't want to play a game about the life of a construction worker that's rebuilding Earth in the Mass Effect universe (awful example, but really what galactic threat is going to top the Reapers?) I agree the Milky Way had so much left to explore that was left uncharted. However, as I said in my first paragraph, the problem was that everything would always be left in the shadow of the original trilogy and not really it's own new story and fresh start. If they DIDN'T have familiar locations like the Citadel, Omega, Illium etc. people would complain they weren't there, but if they were they would complain it's just the same old settings. That doesn't even factor in the fact that Bioware would have no choice but to make canon an ending which I think would enrage FAR more people that Andromeda. The only option would be to make the universe exactly the same no matter which ending you chose and you could just pick one at the very start like you did Shepard's sex, which made no difference in the game anyway (Destroy - everything rebuilt, Geth and AI rebuilt and recreated, Reapers are dead and gone. Control - everything rebuilt, Reaper Shepard took all Reapers back to dark space, no one has heard about them again. Synthesis - No real changes to races, everything is just same old and the green veins and eyes faded over time, Reapers said "hey, everything's peachy now" and they left back to dark space and no one has ever heard from them again. Refuse - no this would be forced to be non-canon because everyone would be wiped out and we would have no game) It just seems like a headache to me for the fans and the developers.
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Post by Element Zero on May 17, 2017 15:22:32 GMT
Of course I want another ME game. MEA2 would be ideal. What a silly question.
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Post by Sah291 on May 17, 2017 15:40:48 GMT
No I don't think it was needed, in the sense of the original feeling incomplete or unfinished, to justify a direct sequel. So MEA felt more like an expansion or spin off to me, which it is...but yes I do definitely want to see more.
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Post by lynroy on May 17, 2017 15:45:09 GMT
Honestly, I didn't want MEA. I closed the door on the ME series after ME3 and moved onto other games. It was difficult to pull myself back into the universe for a brand new game. I can't say that I want more ME games. I'd be fine if they didn't make another one.
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Post by unwanted on May 17, 2017 16:03:44 GMT
The one wish that a asked of the fairy's each night for was, a upgraded Mass effect trilogy.
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Post by n7ltrobbiesann7 on May 17, 2017 16:10:34 GMT
I know there's a lot of folks who do not like Ryder being a doormat, but that's the point. Ryder is a noob, fresh meat, and has much to learn. They are not an established soldier like Shep. Assuming BW does another MEA I think can expect a more powerful Ryder personality as they grow. It would not surprise me if Ryder is eventually given N7 status also (dad would be proud).
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Post by derrame on May 17, 2017 16:29:27 GMT
Yes, absolutely, i want another ME game, yes but made by Edmonton, written by the writers of me1 and me2, karpyshyn included of course
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 16:35:34 GMT
Yes! yes!
A follow up from ME 3 would be awesome, reaper shepherd ftw
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Post by obatalaryder on May 17, 2017 18:46:06 GMT
Please point to me another sci-fi RPG of this generation.
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Post by taliefer on May 17, 2017 19:18:07 GMT
i enjoyed my time with Andromeda, but the fact they wont ever tie up anything in the milky way just makes me wish they would have left it alone and let ME die off. the amount of asspull they have to do to handwave away the milky way is jarring. theres a codex entry where it states it would take something like 25 million years to contact the milky way. can fly there in 600, make a phone call, 25 million. Andromeda is always going to have the Spectre of "what happened in the milky way" over it, and if Bioware continues to not run with a Canon ending it will never be satisfactorily answered. im sure i will still play any Andromeda sequels, but id rather they just focus on their new IP (which i likely wont play) and Dragon Age rather than continue with something that has to go out of its way to explain away its predecessors. and not very well at that. I'm curious why you say there was nothing to tie up the Milky Way and have resolution there....? Didn't... didn't you play Mass Effect 3? That's what the entire game is. We have resolution in the Milky Way. Why do we need to find out again in Andromeda? I played ME3 and chose to destroy the Reapers. The Extended Cut slide show tells me everything I need to know about the reconstruction effort and what happens next. Shepard even survived. Why would I need them to just say this randomly in Andromeda? Every race is now several centuries more advanced now, probably delayed some due to the massive reconstruction projects on the planets. There is no "spectre" of what happened in the Milky way. We know, based on whatever ending we chose. Why in the world do we need Bioware to canonize one ending we possibly didn't choose? Also, it wouldn't take that long to contact the Milky Way with the QEC or Quantum Entanglement Communication. Andromeda even says they tried to contact the Milky Way but received no answers. Presumably because wherever they had a connection to before, be it the Citadel, Arcturus Station etc. is no longer there. The Citadel was severly damaged so if they had a QEC line to a location there, that location probably was destroyed and replaced with new equipment. my point is its just a huge plot device that makes no sense. yes, i know what happened with mass effect 3. and we will never hear anything from the milky way again cause "reasons." which just isnt good enough. i didnt let it ruin andromeda for me, but its just one of the things that keep it from being as good as it could be to me. there is no logical reason to not have contact with the milky way that isnt a giant asspull. the fact that there is contradictory information in game supports this. did they call and get no answer, or it would take 25 million years for any signal to reach the milky way? both reasons are in game in one form or another. its just a bunch of BS for bioware to not have to address the mess of an ending of the MET again. they couldnt even make it a clean break it was such a mess. it would be much better if they just never addressed the milky way at all, but instead they devoted the ryder family subplot to it, and even posed another mystery related to it, the reason of Jien Carsons murder.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 19:23:01 GMT
Did I want another Mass Effect? No, not after the trilogy ended. Now however i want a sequel to Andromeda. I am Interested in the storylines they set up, and want to know more about them.
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Post by decafhigh on May 17, 2017 19:23:20 GMT
its just a bunch of BS for bioware to not have to address the mess of an ending of the MET again. they couldnt even make it a clean break it was such a mess. it would be much better if they just never addressed the milky way at all, but instead they devoted the ryder family subplot to it, and even posed another mystery related to it, the reason of Jien Carsons murder. Agreed, I think they would have been better off to simply never attempted to address it. Clean break from the Milky Way would have been best.
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2017 20:18:51 GMT
i enjoyed my time with Andromeda, but the fact they wont ever tie up anything in the milky way just makes me wish they would have left it alone and let ME die off. the amount of asspull they have to do to handwave away the milky way is jarring. theres a codex entry where it states it would take something like 25 million years to contact the milky way. can fly there in 600, make a phone call, 25 million. What asspull? That's the way techs in Mass Effect have always worked.
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Post by Reorte on May 17, 2017 21:03:48 GMT
Want another ME game? Definitely! It's a pity they resorted to a somewhat implausible even by in-game standards running off to Andromeda to avoid the reprecussions of ME3, but there's a universe created there, whatever they've done with it, that I really want to spend more time in. Preferably implemented by other people though (despite liking, but not loving, Andromeda).
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Post by Nightlife on May 18, 2017 0:25:16 GMT
Yes, but with better writing/characters/story and much better music.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 0:47:09 GMT
Way back I didn't really care either way but now that it's here, I am enjoying it and I want DLC and more MEA games. I wasn't really a huge fan of ME3 because it was really depressing in tone. Understandably it had to be but the previous two were not. They had a good feeling and the endings were great unless you got most of your team killed in ME2. The got the ending right here for all the forces that join. But I am glad they made it. The story could be better and the game could use tweaks to certain things, but overall I enjoy it.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on May 18, 2017 3:21:02 GMT
Please point to me another sci-fi RPG of this generation. Fallout. Although I'm certainly not going to bullshit you and claim that Fallout 4 is better than any of the OT games--it certainly isn't. Can't say about MEA though.
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Post by griffith82 on May 18, 2017 3:27:11 GMT
This is my answer.
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Post by taliefer on May 18, 2017 4:16:47 GMT
i enjoyed my time with Andromeda, but the fact they wont ever tie up anything in the milky way just makes me wish they would have left it alone and let ME die off. the amount of asspull they have to do to handwave away the milky way is jarring. theres a codex entry where it states it would take something like 25 million years to contact the milky way. can fly there in 600, make a phone call, 25 million. What asspull? That's the way techs in Mass Effect have always worked. And yet they also state they called and got no response. Which also doesn't make sense. Its just a whole bunch of lame excuses that don't really make sense. It's a weak spot in the story unless Bioware grows a pair and cannonizes one of the endings that explains why no one answers. Liara was able to send a message to the arks after they left, the initiative was a massive galaxy wide, multi species endeavor and no one else was able to shoot off a message at anytime? it just seems like they couldnt make up their minds about if they wanted to make a clean break from the Milky Way or not and it comes off as bad story telling in this area
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Post by RamShep on May 18, 2017 7:51:16 GMT
Yes, I would like another ME game, even if it's MEA2. However, I would like :
1. Better crew. I want them to be more interesting and more passionate. I want to be able to control them, at least a little bit. 2. I want Ryder to be more extreme - not just logical/emotional, but peaceful/violent. 3. This will not be a popular request but I want classes. I want each class to be unique. 4. This will also be not popular, but I don't want open world. I don't want silly, time-wasting side quests. I want everything I do to have a significant impact, either to the main story or to my crew or to NPC's and factions. 5. Better music!! 6. Better CC. 7. I want the Claymore and the Wraith shotguns.
Thanks, Bioware!
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Post by alanc9 on May 18, 2017 7:56:46 GMT
What asspull? That's the way techs in Mass Effect have always worked. And yet they also state they called and got no response. Which also doesn't make sense. Why doesn't it make sense? A QEC connection is quite easy to break, since there's only one other QEC in the entire universe which can connect with the one you have. If the Reapers blew it up, you're done.
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Post by jclosed on May 18, 2017 8:50:31 GMT
And yet they also state they called and got no response. Which also doesn't make sense. Why doesn't it make sense? A QEC connection is quite easy to break, since there's only one other QEC in the entire universe which can connect with the one you have. If the Reapers blew it up, you're done. Completely agree. If that connection is gone, all communication is gone. All that rests is silence. And seeing the different outcomes of ME3, we don't even know if there is anyone there that could answer a call anyway. You can try to re-establish the connection by sending an FTL capsule containing a new Quantum entanglement "unit" to the Milky Way, but that would take at least 600+ years (the same travel time as the Initiative arks and Nexus had). But then you have another problem. To what location do you send that capsule? The Citadel? But we know (what the initiative doesn't know) that the Citadel is no longer on that location, because it's send/hijacked to the Earth location. To Earth? We don't even know if life on Earth still exists and if so, in what form. And who or what would detect that capsule if it's sent to a location that has no population or (high enough) technology at all? Chances of re-establishing an connection are very slim, and would take ages (literally). In short - There are several very valid reasons there is no longer a connection with the Milky Way. And on top of that there are also lots of reasons it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to re-establish any new connection at all. In short - any next game (and I love to see it) would (in my opinion and preference) play in Andromeda, and would be a continuation of the Ryder twin story.
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Post by unwanted on May 18, 2017 11:19:57 GMT
But of course we did. No one could say No to another Shepard romp. Any Shepard would have done as long as it was good old Shep. As far as I'm concern Andromeda has poo all to do with mass effect and would be better known as 'My little Ryder'
Shepard is waiting patiently in the wings, waiting for EA to have the brains to release the Shep of war once more.
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Post by vonuber on May 18, 2017 12:10:55 GMT
But of course we did. No one could say No to another Shepard romp. Any Shepard would have done as long as it was good old Shep. As far as I'm concern Andromeda has poo all to do with mass effect and would be better known as 'My little Ryder' Shepard is waiting patiently in the wings, waiting for EA to have the brains to release the Shep of war once more. I hope they have the brains not to. She's done. There's a new girl in town.
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Post by jclosed on May 18, 2017 12:20:30 GMT
Yep - please no Shepard again... Do not resurrect old dusty and rusty relics ever... After playing ME1/2/3 to death I had enough. I am glad with this new direction. BTW - Beautiful Ryder girl vonuber. Good job...
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