inherit
7535
0
2,066
abaris
2,013
April 2017
abaris
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by abaris on May 21, 2017 15:27:16 GMT
That is the problem I have with the title of this thread (and maybe that YouTube video) for how the person breaks down the possible sales numbers of 2.6 to 3.5 million makes more sense then anything I have gathered from prior YouTube videos on the subject. He can only speculate, of course, just like everyone else. But he at least combined all the date available to him and took everything into account. Starting with numbers and ending at sales expectations by the company. That's, as I said before, I would encourage everyone to do. Comparing numbers gets you nowhere. It's the sales estimates as compared to manhours, investment and development cycle that tells the tale. Noone of us is able to get to the bottom of this, but comparing this games sales to ME3 or DAI just blurrs the lines. You can't compare different products with different expetations. Truth is, noone knows. But YongYea at least compared all the data available to him from different perspectives. Which is more than can be said for other youtubers.
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,186 Likes: 4,072
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,072
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,186
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on May 21, 2017 15:33:05 GMT
It should be noted that first week sales were expected to be something, and they didn't hit that.
Even if the game is 3.5 million, the real question is EA satisfied with the numbers? We have mixed messages on that, with EA saying they are, but simultaneously supposedly putting the series on a small hiatus for a while (which was going to happen I think anyway, but if the stuff regarding Montreal is true, it's certain now.)
Technically...the video is not wrong that the game under-performed. That being said it didn't underperform by much. It's not a box office bomb like some of the Assassins Creed games have been.
|
|
inherit
7535
0
2,066
abaris
2,013
April 2017
abaris
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by abaris on May 21, 2017 15:43:28 GMT
Technically...the video is not wrong that the game under-performed. That being said it didn't underperform by much. It's not a box office bomb like some of the Assassins Creed games have been. How'd you know? You aren't privy to what their expectations were as compared to how it performed. YongYeah published some figures prior to release. I can't check if they're legit, but according to them, the game underperformed massively. May be true, may be not. But I have a pretty good sense when it comes to business statements. And the ones coming from EA and Bioware are pointing to them being in crisis mode and to be looking for strategies to move forward. Whatever that means in terms of the ME franchise.
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,186 Likes: 4,072
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,072
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,186
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on May 21, 2017 15:46:04 GMT
Technically...the video is not wrong that the game under-performed. That being said it didn't underperform by much. It's not a box office bomb like some of the Assassins Creed games have been. How'd you know? You aren't privy to what their expectations were as compared to how it performed. YongYeah published some figures prior to release. I can't check if they're legit, but according to them, the game underperformed massively. May be true, may be not. But I have a pretty good sense when it comes to business statements. And the ones coming from EA and Bioware are pointing to them being in crisis mode and to be looking for strategies to move forward. Whatever that means in terms of the ME franchise. Because as I said, what was expected by EA was not matched in the timetable they wanted. We can only go on what EA has said since then, which is again, mixed messages. I know through deduction like that. As for now, we shall see what happens.
|
|
inherit
3439
0
Nov 27, 2024 23:56:06 GMT
9,681
alanc9
Old Scientist Contrarian
8,066
February 2017
alanc9
|
Post by alanc9 on May 21, 2017 16:05:29 GMT
If thats what he meant, he is still dead wrong. EA has ALWAYS said their projection was 3M by the 1st MONTH. Not week. IF MEA reaches 6M total sales, the game is still a freaking success for EA. For gamers? Debatle. But for EA, no doubt a hit with lots of smiles and corporate handshakes.
The game was never going to be a financial failure. They put what forty million into it IIRC, that's 667,000 copies roughly if my head math is correct. They probably got that in pre-orders alone. But three million in the fourth quarter is 180 million minus 40 million to make and marketing expenses. They still had to be expecting a more than a hundred million.
This overstates the revenue. EA keeps all $60 for an Origin sale, but physical DVD sales split revenue with the retailer
|
|
inherit
8160
0
18
kevinkevin
14
May 2017
kevinkevin
|
Post by kevinkevin on May 21, 2017 16:07:39 GMT
You mean BioWare can't do that, but everyone else is allowed to. Plenty of games are released with problems and nobody cares. Bioware isn't the only one that gets get picked on due to their inabilities. Look at halos decline in sales throughout the years (because of the use of abilities, unnecessary changes to game modes, bugs still being in there since day one, and I could go on and on cause I'm very disappointed in the halo franchise since 343 took over), look at people bashing CoDs futuristic direction (although they are now trying a game in a WWII setting), look at destiny getting shit on for no dedicated servers, lowering team sizes, changing weapon layout, etc etc. so so it's absolutely false that no one cares about other games downfalls, bioware isn't that special snowflake from any other developer out there. Everyone keeps calling it "Bioware". It stopped being Bioware when they sold out to EA years ago. Muzyka and Zeschuk bailed on BW shortly after they sold out. It's NOT BW anymore. The last true BW titles were ME2 and DA:O. Everything since then has been an EA product.
|
|
danaxe
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 154 Likes: 391
inherit
1489
0
Nov 22, 2024 22:29:35 GMT
391
danaxe
154
Sept 8, 2016 11:05:57 GMT
September 2016
danaxe
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by danaxe on May 21, 2017 16:09:54 GMT
Thankfully, EA CFO Blake Jorgensen was present at the Q3 call, and was able to put worries to rest. He stated that up to half of Mass Effect: Andromeda's lifetime sales will occur in the tiny fourth quarter window. Using the series' previous installment, Mass Effect 3, which sold six million copies in total, as a benchmark, Jorgensen estimated that Andromeda would reach three million units before Q4 ends. Since the game will only be out for a few days before the quarter closes, this translates to three million sales in the game's first week.Read More: www.looper.com/39724/mass-effect-andromeda-projected-sell-3-million-units-first-week/?utm_campaign=clipJorgensen, in line with the company’s belief, stated that the first week sales should make up between 30 to 50 percent of the total sales for the product. EA stands to sell between six to nine million copies of the franchise’s new game.
Lofty expectations to say the least, even with a drama free launch. The game was never going to be a financial failure. They put what forty million into it IIRC, that's 667,000 copies roughly if my head math is correct. They probably got that in pre-orders alone. But three million in the fourth quarter is 180 million minus 40 million to make and marketing expenses. They still had to be expecting a more than a hundred million. Thanks for that, hadnt seen it before. But i saw quite a few times the whole 3M in a month. Either way, reinforcing and trying to spread that MEA was a financial failure is not only untrue it means there's more to your (not yours specifically, i mean the youtuber's) argument than what you are letting on. Maybe some personal vendetta against it or whatever, just fishing for clicks. Cause if you are giving your opinion saying bad stuff about the game, well, fair game, its your opinion and many many critics of the game are right in many points. But trying to push this wrong idea about how it failed is just sad and a lie.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 6,004 Likes: 9,088
inherit
1561
0
Nov 27, 2024 22:56:31 GMT
9,088
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
6,004
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on May 21, 2017 16:12:32 GMT
The catch to your argument is where those comments were made. It was an investor call which EA has to be very careful with since if they are caught misrepresenting the facts or outright lying could be extremely costly to them. The lawsuit after Battelfield 4 is proof of that for it would probably cost them more then any gain they might have had. If it was just a press release or conference I would be more skeptical too. So what, they had a lawsuit for mass effect 3 ending and it did not bother them to do it again for sim city and battlefield 4 the year after that. There wasn't a lawsuit for Mass Effect 3 there was talk, but as far as I can tell it never saw a courtroom.
|
|
inherit
7535
0
2,066
abaris
2,013
April 2017
abaris
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by abaris on May 21, 2017 16:16:29 GMT
Either way, reinforcing and trying to spread that MEA was a financial failure is not only untrue it means there's more to your (not yours specifically, i mean the youtuber's) argument than what you are letting on. Maybe some personal vendetta against it or whatever, just fishing for clicks. Cause if you are giving your opinion saying bad stuff about the game, well, fair game, its your opinion and many many critics of the game are right in many points. But trying to push this wrong idea about how it failed is just sad and a lie. There's failure and then there's failure. Breaking even or making a small profit isn't the goal of any company introducing a new product that took roughly 5 years to develop. As I said, there are multiple factors involved than can't be revealed by number crunchng or comparing it like apples and oranges. Every product, and games are products, has specific expectations to call it a success.
|
|
duckley
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 542 Likes: 858
inherit
625
0
Nov 27, 2024 17:49:51 GMT
858
duckley
542
August 2016
duckley
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by duckley on May 21, 2017 16:16:42 GMT
Is this a fairly recent video? If so, I do find it interesting that some people are still pointing out the games perceived failures and shortcomings. It has been a few months since release, and I would think those who don't like the game have moved on.
|
|
Fen'Harel Faceman
N7
GIF Addict
Workin' so hard, to make it easy.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 13,331 Likes: 30,906
inherit
GIF Addict
374
0
30,906
Fen'Harel Faceman
Workin' so hard, to make it easy.
13,331
August 2016
almostfaceman
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 21, 2017 16:18:59 GMT
Is this a fairly recent video? If so, I do find it interesting that some people are still pointing out the games perceived failures and shortcomings. It has been a few months since release, and I would think those who don't like the game have moved on. Never underestimate the power of butthurt.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 6,004 Likes: 9,088
inherit
1561
0
Nov 27, 2024 22:56:31 GMT
9,088
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
6,004
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on May 21, 2017 16:21:06 GMT
It should be noted that first week sales were expected to be something, and they didn't hit that. Even if the game is 3.5 million, the real question is EA satisfied with the numbers? We have mixed messages on that, with EA saying they are, but simultaneously supposedly putting the series on a small hiatus for a while (which was going to happen I think anyway, but if the stuff regarding Montreal is true, it's certain now.) Technically...the video is not wrong that the game under-performed. That being said it didn't underperform by much. It's not a box office bomb like some of the Assassins Creed games have been. The problem is I have seen two different numbers for projected lifetime five million by Aaryn Flynn and the six to nine million from that investor's call. So what is the real number EA was really expecting. Aaryn Flynn's CommentsThat is the overall problem I am having with speculation around the game is we don't even really know what the projections internally were for all we know is that EA was giving the best case scenario to their investors and it was more inline with what Aaryn Flynn said at the beginning of March. Or it could be they adjusted internally after that investor's call to five million since I think the six million statement was made in 2016, but I could be wrong.
|
|
inherit
7535
0
2,066
abaris
2,013
April 2017
abaris
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by abaris on May 21, 2017 16:23:16 GMT
Is this a fairly recent video? If so, I do find it interesting that some people are still pointing out the games perceived failures and shortcomings. It has been a few months since release, and I would think those who don't like the game have moved on. it's got nothing to do with not liking the game. Even if you like it, and I do, you want to see more content added and bugs keeping fixed. Based on the limited information out there, that seems to be unlikely. So it's worth discussing it.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 6,004 Likes: 9,088
inherit
1561
0
Nov 27, 2024 22:56:31 GMT
9,088
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
6,004
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on May 21, 2017 16:29:21 GMT
Is this a fairly recent video? If so, I do find it interesting that some people are still pointing out the games perceived failures and shortcomings. It has been a few months since release, and I would think those who don't like the game have moved on. People are still making videos about Mass Effect 3, so a couple of months is nothing.
|
|
malgus
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 959 Likes: 1,590
inherit
4126
0
Mar 21, 2023 21:20:35 GMT
1,590
malgus
959
March 2017
malgus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by malgus on May 21, 2017 16:29:31 GMT
|
|
inherit
1657
0
119
darkway1
134
Sept 23, 2016 10:11:08 GMT
September 2016
darkway1
|
Post by darkway1 on May 21, 2017 16:33:21 GMT
EA wants a mega hit,they seek big sales number's,so doing OK is NOT good enough for EA,they don't make games to simply cover costs and make do with minimal profits.
Mass Effect's ship has sailed and EA will now focus on the far more important up and coming titles like Battlefront 2.
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,186 Likes: 4,072
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,072
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,186
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on May 21, 2017 16:36:25 GMT
Either way, reinforcing and trying to spread that MEA was a financial failure is not only untrue it means there's more to your (not yours specifically, i mean the youtuber's) argument than what you are letting on. Maybe some personal vendetta against it or whatever, just fishing for clicks. Cause if you are giving your opinion saying bad stuff about the game, well, fair game, its your opinion and many many critics of the game are right in many points. But trying to push this wrong idea about how it failed is just sad and a lie. There's failure and then there's failure. Breaking even or making a small profit isn't the goal of any company introducing a new product that took roughly 5 years to develop. As I said, there are multiple factors involved than can't be revealed by number crunchng or comparing it like apples and oranges. Every product, and games are products, has specific expectations to call it a success. Basically this. It's why I think, based on comments and actions so far, it's not a total loss but it is underwhelming compared to what they expected, and that might be more damaging then we think.
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 6,004 Likes: 9,088
inherit
1561
0
Nov 27, 2024 22:56:31 GMT
9,088
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
6,004
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on May 21, 2017 16:38:31 GMT
Right, but neither of those happened beyond that. The BBB was only a blog posting which I don't think the BBB has any legal weight for that was just that one person's opinion like an opinion piece at Polygon. The FTC complaint as far as I can find never went beyond that initial complaint by a player, I am not even sure if EA even was required to respond to it. Unless you have something more recent all the articles I can find are reporting on the person filing the report.
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,186 Likes: 4,072
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,072
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,186
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on May 21, 2017 16:40:47 GMT
Right, but neither of those happened beyond that. The BBB was only a blog posting which I don't think the BBB has any legal weight for that was just that one person's opinion like an opinion piece at Polygon. The FTC complaint as far as I can find never went beyond that initial complaint by a player, I am not even sure if EA even was required to respond to it. Unless you have something more recent all the articles I can find are reporting on the person filing the report. It's academic at this point. Plus any lawsuit filed would lose or be settled out of court, since there is no definitive proof of false advertising when it comes to marketing aspects of a product that are ultimately subjective.
|
|
inherit
7535
0
2,066
abaris
2,013
April 2017
abaris
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by abaris on May 21, 2017 16:42:55 GMT
Basically this. It's why I think, based on comments and actions so far, it's not a total loss but it is underwhelming compared to what they expected, and that might be more damaging then we think. Well, at the least it calls for strategy meeting. By people who probably never played a game in their lives, but who are looking at what their shareholders are expecting and stock ratings. That's what I'm getting from the EA statements on the matter. I don't want to ruin anyone's illusions and I don't want to ruin my own. I liked the game, note that I didn't say love, and I would like it to be expanded and polished to it's true potential. I'm not seeing it however. I may be wrong, but I don't see it based on what they say.
|
|
malgus
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 959 Likes: 1,590
inherit
4126
0
Mar 21, 2023 21:20:35 GMT
1,590
malgus
959
March 2017
malgus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by malgus on May 21, 2017 16:51:38 GMT
Right, but neither of those happened beyond that. The BBB was only a blog posting which I don't think the BBB has any legal weight for that was just that one person's opinion like an opinion piece at Polygon. The FTC complaint as far as I can find never went beyond that initial complaint by a player, I am not even sure if EA even was required to respond to it. Unless you have something more recent all the articles I can find are reporting on the person filing the report. www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/06/13/ea-cleared-of-false-advertising-charges-over-mass-effect-3-ending/#6c2a56089d60Of course it was meant to fail, just like gearbox got away from the lawsuit of alien colonial marines, any lawsuit could never work against them but it did happen.
|
|
inherit
ღ Too witty for a title
6261
0
Aug 12, 2023 11:35:22 GMT
8,655
decafhigh
3,011
March 2017
decafhigh
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by decafhigh on May 21, 2017 17:16:35 GMT
If EA was expecting sales figures to be equal to or better than any previous BW game (which is more or less what the vid in the OP suggests) then they probably shouldn't have given the game to the B-Team which had never executed a major release all on their own before.
If we take the estimates from the vid of 3.5 million units sold, that is a very strong showing for a Bioware game, particularly from a studio doing its first full game release. That puts MEA on par with ME2 sales wise (the vid said ME2 was around 3.8m). In any event MEA certainly made them money.
Personally I don't think EA really cares about MEA. BW games in general aren't mega-chart toppers in the way video games like GTA, Call of Duty, and EA's various sports titles are. That is what EA is looking for from BW and why they are being pushed out of the RPG genre with Dylan into a Destiny/Halo type format to chase those big sales numbers. To EA, ME is a drop in the bucket and more of a concern from a cash flow perspective to fund Dylan development than something they are counting on to crush sales numbers and make huge bank.
Either way ME and DA aren't going to determine BW's future. Everything rides on Dylan at this point. If that game bombs or meets the same reception MEA did that will be very bad for Bioware, maybe the end of it.
|
|
inherit
The Pathfinder
638
0
Sept 22, 2017 23:01:09 GMT
9,422
Serza
Rendering planets viable since 2017
6,301
August 2016
serza
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
13152
|
Post by Serza on May 21, 2017 17:18:15 GMT
"Oh, it's this guy"
Isn't this one of the channels sliding along with the hate?
|
|
inherit
5079
0
Nov 27, 2024 16:04:53 GMT
1,825
ShadowAngel
#more Asari
1,599
Mar 19, 2017 16:14:51 GMT
March 2017
uegshadowangel
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
UEG ShadowAngel
|
Post by ShadowAngel on May 21, 2017 17:29:23 GMT
Bioware isn't the only one that gets get picked on due to their inabilities. Look at halos decline in sales throughout the years (because of the use of abilities, unnecessary changes to game modes, bugs still being in there since day one, and I could go on and on cause I'm very disappointed in the halo franchise since 343 took over), look at people bashing CoDs futuristic direction (although they are now trying a game in a WWII setting), look at destiny getting shit on for no dedicated servers, lowering team sizes, changing weapon layout, etc etc. so so it's absolutely false that no one cares about other games downfalls, bioware isn't that special snowflake from any other developer out there. Everyone keeps calling it "Bioware". It stopped being Bioware when they sold out to EA years ago. Muzyka and Zeschuk bailed on BW shortly after they sold out. It's NOT BW anymore. The last true BW titles were ME2 and DA:O. Everything since then has been an EA product. I don't think you really understand how publishers work. Of course Biowares games are part of EAs products, but EA doesn't make the game. Blame EA all you want, but they're not the issue and I actually see them as the scapegoat in this case. Should I just blame activision for bungies failures? Microsoft for 343s? There's a line between developer and publisher...... Im sticking to calling them Bioware.
|
|
inherit
6642
0
812
setokaiba
561
Mar 30, 2017 17:08:54 GMT
March 2017
setokaiba
|
Post by setokaiba on May 21, 2017 17:37:15 GMT
Is this a fairly recent video? If so, I do find it interesting that some people are still pointing out the games perceived failures and shortcomings. It has been a few months since release, and I would think those who don't like the game have moved on. Nah this game will be bashed until the next ME if there is one
|
|