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Post by heathenoxman on Jun 17, 2017 16:40:35 GMT
Hm.. i really don't have any problems with the CC. With the new face they added , i was able to make a fabulous Scott Neither do I. However, I suck at CC, so basic presets don't really bother me. Besides, if they changed the CC then they'd be ALTERING THEIR ARTISTIC ORIGINAL VISION FOR CHARACTER CREATION!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 16:47:46 GMT
They did do something to the hair fluidity though. My Sara has the hairstyle like her mum's and it's just blowing everywhere in breezy weather!
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Post by Felya87 on Jun 17, 2017 16:56:30 GMT
I made a Ryder I'm satysfied with, but the cc is still very, very limited. And there is still something wrong (for me) in the eyes: the iris lack detail, the colour seem quite flat...
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 17, 2017 16:57:33 GMT
People still are arguing over this? Who are them again? The attention seekers calling anyone biphobes and the ones who still can't get over it? Come on now. I don't even use the CC, but that was a lame ass "improvement". They problem with most is they think the Jaal thing was a waste of resources, but if we look at the reality of it, this likely never would have happened if they weren't already in the studio recording the DLC like Cora's VA implied. If no DLC was planned, this patch would not have happened. I love the new CC but it lacks the eyebrow color change. Making the skin darker to get darker brows is not my idea of "improved" and not being able to change eyes, lips and nose size is also annoying. Ears too because of hair clipping. Disagree. It shows BioWare not sticking to their guts, if they could have finished all the other pointless flings in the game, they could have done Jaal. They didn't for some reason, but of all the important things to overhaul in their game, they chose to fall under pressure over a romance. It's kinda sad. At least the stupid hashtag and overdramatic speeches will cease to exist. Not everything is lost. Exactly. It's really barebones. They added new heads, among the ugly ones, non gender locked hairstyles, and other minimal stuff. But hey, if you got some enjoyment from the new CC, that's something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 17:05:43 GMT
They problem with most is they think the Jaal thing was a waste of resources, but if we look at the reality of it, this likely never would have happened if they weren't already in the studio recording the DLC like Cora's VA implied. If no DLC was planned, this patch would not have happened. I love the new CC but it lacks the eyebrow color change. Making the skin darker to get darker brows is not my idea of "improved" and not being able to change eyes, lips and nose size is also annoying. Ears too because of hair clipping. Disagree. It shows BioWare not sticking to their guts, if they could have finished all the other pointless flings in the game, they could have done Jaal. They didn't for some reason, but of all the important things to overhaul in their game, they chose to fall under pressure over a romance. It's kinda sad. At least the stupid hashtag and overdramatic speeches will cease to exist. Not everything is lost. Exactly. It's really barebones. They added new heads, among the ugly ones, non gender locked hairstyles, and other minimal stuff. But hey, if you got some enjoyment from the new CC, that's something. I know and believe me, I was against it too despite evidence pointing to him being unfinished. They showed that by doing this, people can attempt to demand something and use that as a reason to make their wishes happen. It was poorly done. Just admitting it was cut would have been better than dragging this on forever. For me, Jaal will always be straight because he was shipped straight. A part of my mind can't undo that fact, but the patching itself was very minor for his romance. They spent most of their time reanimating the face expressions and fixing cutscenes like the Tempest. Did you know they have other hairstyles in-game that only the NPC's get? I was so sure we'd get those for our Ryders, but we got only the opposite gender ones. Oh I'm just good at mastering CC. I spent years with the Sims, and even made decent non-modded Oblivion toons, so this CC is child's play for me, but as a real life artist, I would have loved more variety.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 17, 2017 17:17:12 GMT
Disagree. It shows BioWare not sticking to their guts, if they could have finished all the other pointless flings in the game, they could have done Jaal. They didn't for some reason, but of all the important things to overhaul in their game, they chose to fall under pressure over a romance. It's kinda sad. At least the stupid hashtag and overdramatic speeches will cease to exist. Not everything is lost. Exactly. It's really barebones. They added new heads, among the ugly ones, non gender locked hairstyles, and other minimal stuff. But hey, if you got some enjoyment from the new CC, that's something. I know and believe me, I was against it too despite evidence pointing to him being unfinished. They showed that by doing this, people can attempt to demand something and use that as a reason to make their wishes happen. It was poorly done. Just admitting it was cut would have been better than dragging this on forever. For me, Jaal will always be straight because he was shipped straight. A part of my mind can't undo that fact, but the patching itself was very minor for his romance. They spent most of their time reanimating the face expressions and fixing cutscenes like the Tempest. Did you know they have other hairstyles in-game that only the NPC's get? I was so sure we'd get those for our Ryders, but we got only the opposite gender ones. Oh I'm just good at mastering CC. I spent years with the Sims, and even made decent non-modded Oblivion toons, so this CC is child's play for me, but as a real life artist, I would have loved more variety. MTE. That explains it. I don't have much patience with CCs if the default one pleases me already, even less it sucks to pull some good out of it, like MEA's. I'm not as frustrated, but I get yours. DAI's was quite decent, hard to understand the downgrade. In fact, it's hard to understand how all of this happened with MEA. Hopefully, a sequel builds on the foundation and expands it for good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
I know and believe me, I was against it too despite evidence pointing to him being unfinished. They showed that by doing this, people can attempt to demand something and use that as a reason to make their wishes happen. It was poorly done. Just admitting it was cut would have been better than dragging this on forever. For me, Jaal will always be straight because he was shipped straight. A part of my mind can't undo that fact, but the patching itself was very minor for his romance. They spent most of their time reanimating the face expressions and fixing cutscenes like the Tempest. Did you know they have other hairstyles in-game that only the NPC's get? I was so sure we'd get those for our Ryders, but we got only the opposite gender ones. Oh I'm just good at mastering CC. I spent years with the Sims, and even made decent non-modded Oblivion toons, so this CC is child's play for me, but as a real life artist, I would have loved more variety. MTE. That explains it. I don't have much patience with CCs if the default one pleases me already, even less it sucks to pull some good out of it, like MEA's. I'm not as frustrated, but I get yours. DAI's was quite decent, hard to understand the downgrade. In fact, it's hard to understand how all of this happened with MEA. Hopefully, a sequel builds on the foundation and expands it for good. My guess is the MEA team was less experienced with the engine than the DAI team, and had less time to master it (DAI was delayed). Frostbite is apparently not the best choice for games like DA and ME, and is more suited for games like Battlefront and Anthem. EA wants all their games on Frostbite though, so they have to find a way to make it work. Sims 4 was a near disaster when they made it on that engine too. My fav were the horror babies in it. That glitch was a mother's nightmare! They looked like Slenderman's offspring.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 17, 2017 18:00:38 GMT
People still are arguing over this? Who are them again? The attention seekers calling anyone biphobes and the ones who still can't get over it? Come on now. I don't even use the CC, but that was a lame ass "improvement". They problem with most is they think the Jaal thing was a waste of resources, but if we look at the reality of it, this likely never would have happened if they weren't already in the studio recording the DLC like Cora's VA implied. If no DLC was planned, this patch would not have happened. I love the new CC but it lacks the eyebrow color change. Making the skin darker to get darker brows is not my idea of "improved" and not being able to change eyes, lips and nose size is also annoying. Ears too because of hair clipping. I doubt this game will get dlc unless it's multiplayer related. I'm not going to take Cora's VA comment as confirmation dlc is happening because things could have changed since. It's still god awful imo ,It's feel like something someone did quickly over lunch and Bioware said "just take a couple of mods in add them to CC". If they was just going to half-ass it they might as well not even did it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 18:03:25 GMT
They problem with most is they think the Jaal thing was a waste of resources, but if we look at the reality of it, this likely never would have happened if they weren't already in the studio recording the DLC like Cora's VA implied. If no DLC was planned, this patch would not have happened. I love the new CC but it lacks the eyebrow color change. Making the skin darker to get darker brows is not my idea of "improved" and not being able to change eyes, lips and nose size is also annoying. Ears too because of hair clipping. I doubt this game will get dlc unless it's multiplayer related. I'm not going to take Cora's VA comment as confirmation dlc is happening because things could have changed since. It's still god awful imo ,It's feel like something someone did quickly over lunch and Bioware said "just take a couple of mods in add them to CC". If they was just going to half-ass it they might as well not even did it. I doubt they just called Tom and Nyasha back in to add a bunch of romantic lines. That costs and the extra Scott/Jaal files found were to avoid wasting money in the first place, but they made only 2 or 3, so they had to get they actors to do more. Likely they just killed two birds with one stone.
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Post by gary on Jun 17, 2017 22:43:35 GMT
That's just awesome. Don't fix the NUMEROUS bugs and glitches, crashes, framerate problems or anything. As long as Ryder's more Gay it's cool! Developers need a head slap.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 18, 2017 0:25:36 GMT
That's just awesome. Don't fix the NUMEROUS bugs and glitches, crashes, framerate problems or anything. As long as Ryder's more Gay it's cool! Developers need a head slap. This is not a very sensible argument. The writers and voice talent can't be used to fix bugs anyway; wrong skillset.
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Post by Dirk on Jun 18, 2017 5:11:38 GMT
Hello just collecting salt, is my food Look how the table has turned lol. I knew the salt would move to the other side when bi Jaal happened.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 18, 2017 5:13:57 GMT
I doubt this game will get dlc unless it's multiplayer related. I'm not going to take Cora's VA comment as confirmation dlc is happening because things could have changed since. It's still god awful imo ,It's feel like something someone did quickly over lunch and Bioware said "just take a couple of mods in add them to CC". If they was just going to half-ass it they might as well not even did it. I doubt they just called Tom and Nyasha back in to add a bunch of romantic lines. That costs and the extra Scott/Jaal files found were to avoid wasting money in the first place, but they made only 2 or 3, so they had to get they actors to do more. Likely they just killed two birds with one stone. Well, that didn't take long for you to post something like this.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 18, 2017 6:12:08 GMT
That's just awesome. Don't fix the NUMEROUS bugs and glitches, crashes, framerate problems or anything. As long as Ryder's more Gay it's cool! Developers need a head slap. What form of physical assault would you recommend for dealing with you?
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 6:40:10 GMT
Hello just collecting salt, is my food Look how the table has turned lol. I knew the salt would move to the other side when bi Jaal happened. The salt of these people give me life I just finish my first playthrough and Jaal is all mine
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 7:36:32 GMT
31.media.tumblr.com/9d096f8bf0e84010836b20b1cdb14995/tumblr_inline_n1k9biXXkG1qfy5lf.gifBut in case you do then I think you're missing what a lot of these posts are about. The negative reaction is not towards bisexuality: the negative reaction is towards a character being rewritten for meta reasons post-release. This reaction would remain regardless of what Jaal’s sexuality was and was changed to. This same reaction would exist if a gay character was rewritten to be straight. I've objected to that idea in the past just as I objected to this. If Jaal had been bisexual from the start then I, and I know others, would have been fine with it. When a fictional character is more important than real people looooooooooooooool besides Jaal was bi and that was taken from us, now it's restored and his sexuality has nothing to do with his personality, Jaal hasnt changed. PERIOD. And we have a FUCKING SQUADMATE now. I dont care what your whines have to say about a fictional character integrity homophobes to the left CARRY ON THE SALT I'M HUNGRY
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 18, 2017 7:48:55 GMT
We know Jaal may have shipped straight, but there is ample evidence to suggest he was not always that way. The developers heard the outcry from a very vocal audience and decided to make a wrong a right. Gay players did not receive a squadmate and no romance with equal content, while everybody else did. The Angara are a sexually fluid alien race, and no matter how many straight women cry about how Patch 1.08 ruined Jaal for them or somehow made Jaal love Sara even more, it doesn't change the fact that Jaal is now canon bisexual, and there is no amount of tears that can change that. I'm not even sorry to see hearts broken or tempers raging over this. It is done. Get over it and whine about Sara's eyes again or Cora's hair because we all know that is all gamer bros care about.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 7:52:52 GMT
We know Jaal may have shipped straight, but there is ample evidence to suggest he was not always that way. The developers heard the outcry from a very vocal audience and decided to make a wrong a right. Gay players did not receive a squadmate and no romance with equal content, while everybody else did. The Angara are a sexually fluid alien race, and no matter how many straight women cry about how Patch 1.08 ruined Jaal for them or somehow made Jaal love Sara even more, it doesn't change the fact that Jaal is now canon bisexual, and there is no amount of tears that can change that. I'm not even sorry to see hearts broken or tempers raging over this. It is done. Get over it and whine about Sara's eyes again or Cora's hair because we all know that is all gamer bros care about.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 18, 2017 7:53:52 GMT
We know Jaal may have shipped straight, but there is ample evidence to suggest he was not always that way. The developers heard the outcry from a very vocal audience and decided to make a wrong a right. Gay players did not receive a squadmate and no romance with equal content, while everybody else did. The Angara are a sexually fluid alien race, and no matter how many straight women cry about how Patch 1.08 ruined Jaal for them or somehow made Jaal love Sara even more, it doesn't change the fact that Jaal is now canon bisexual, and there is no amount of tears that can change that. I'm not even sorry to see hearts broken or tempers raging over this. It is done. Get over it and whine about Sara's eyes again or Cora's hair because we all know that is all gamer bros care about. You better add the black and brown stripes to insure some more people get pissed off too!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 7:55:42 GMT
You better add the black and brown stripes to insure some more people get pissed off too! True allies know what I mean for that GAYS STOLE CHRISTMAS WITH TRACER GAYS STOLE SUMMER WITH JAAL NOW GIMMIE MY GAY WEREWOLF UNIVERSE
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 18, 2017 7:56:35 GMT
You better add the black and brown stripes to insure some more people get pissed off too! True allies know what I mean for that GAYS STOLE CHRISTMAS WITH TRACER GAYS STOLE SUMMER WITH JAAL NOW GIMMIE MY GAY WEREWOLF UNIVERSE That's for fall! Ugh, I spoiled the furry surprise.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 7:58:28 GMT
True allies know what I mean for that GAYS STOLE CHRISTMAS WITH TRACER GAYS STOLE SUMMER WITH JAAL NOW GIMMIE MY GAY WEREWOLF UNIVERSE That's for fall! Ugh, I spoiled the furry surprise. Gosh I would die xD and the salt from furry homophobe haters... delightful, salt high quality like there is in this thread, precious food
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 18, 2017 8:01:32 GMT
Salt gives us power, Nick. You know that. This is how we grew so strong.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 8:02:58 GMT
Salt gives us power, Nick. You know that. This is how we grew so strong. and we won mate!!! We both were in that hashtag, look at us now!!! HAPPY!!!
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 18, 2017 8:03:31 GMT
We know Jaal may have shipped straight, but there is ample evidence to suggest he was not always that way. The developers heard the outcry from a very vocal audience and decided to make a wrong a right. Gay players did not receive a squadmate and no romance with equal content, while everybody else did. The Angara are a sexually fluid alien race, and no matter how many straight women cry about how Patch 1.08 ruined Jaal for them or somehow made Jaal love Sara even more, it doesn't change the fact that Jaal is now canon bisexual, and there is no amount of tears that can change that. I'm not even sorry to see hearts broken or tempers raging over this. It is done. Get over it and whine about Sara's eyes again or Cora's hair because we all know that is all gamer bros care about.
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