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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 30, 2020 5:57:05 GMT
In some cultures, letting the body be eaten by animals is a funeral. Even in Dragon Age the Avaar do that by putting the body up high to be eaten by birds and bring the spirit to the Lady of the Sky. And the Qunari have no ritual for the body because they see it as an empty vessel now since the soul has departed. Well, DA:O human and City Elf PCs will be at least familiar with Andrastian protocols, whether they're believers or just pay lip service. I'm not sure what Dalish or dwarven protocols are in in this matter, particularly WRT humans. Orzammar dwarves bury their dead, or perhaps entomb is the better word. Anyway the idea is that you become one with the stone and make the foundations of the thaig stronger if I remember correctly. No idea about surface dwarves. Or Dalish.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 30, 2020 6:53:49 GMT
The Dalish bury their dead and plant a tree with them. You can mention this to Alistair in DAO as a Dalish elf.
As for surface dwarves, they cannot return to the Stone, but if they are Andrastian, they are probably burned.
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Post by dawnold on Dec 30, 2020 9:07:12 GMT
There might be better and/or newer alternatives that could fill in Varric's role in da4. But I want to see how he'll react in world states where he watched Hawke and Inky sacrifice themselves. I thought letting him keep the red lyrium in da2 would cause him to lose his mind but it didn't. Perhaps losing two dear friends may finally cause him to snap in da4.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 10:21:00 GMT
I mean this just as evil as leaving Cailan´s corpse or give him to the wolves. By the way i always hated it that was even a decision. I think part of the problem is that it is solely presented as a sort of revenge, retribution sort of option, when it could be just practical. In the film Last of the Mohiccans, Hawkeye refuses to bury the people that are good friends of his because it will alert enemies to their presence if they pass that way and he is giving thought to those living people he is trying to protect. In the case of Cailan, an appropriate funeral rite would be to burn him rather than bury him, which would definitely draw attention to their presence over a much wider area. There is also a very practical reason for burning, as Felassan points out in Masked Empire, that the corpse cannot be occupied by a demon and reanimated. I've always felt that was the real reason the Vints opted for burning Andraste, although the spirit of the Archon's wife in DAO suggests it was simply to make her suffer. That is ok as an evil option but denying him a funeral after this is just cruel. Again, if someone is suggesting not giving him proper funeral rites just out of spite, this is a valid comment. However, if Varric should give his life "watching your back" in order to give you a chance to escape, then may be a funeral might not be possible. Instead perhaps a memorial service might be appropriate. I would mention that Hawke's passing is acknowledge by Varric and that is about it. Not only was Hawke denied their wedding by the cancellation of the Exalted March, but they are also denied an appropriate send off by all their friends/lover. Just a letter from Varric to them and that is it. You would think that if Hawke isn't around to assist Varric in the Trespasser epilogue, then an appropriate alternative would be for him to erect a memorial in their honor. By this I mean a proper one that acknowledges the person behind the title, not the statue in the docks that always looks more like Andraste than a true reflection of the Champion.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 30, 2020 12:53:18 GMT
We "deny" funerals to the hundreds of people we slaughter in service of our various goals, so... meh.
Personally, once you've murdered someone, how you did or did not treat their corpse afterwards is of little interest to me. The body isn't the part that mattered.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 30, 2020 12:59:03 GMT
"Nice plan, Solas, but there's one thing you haven't taken into account."
"Oh? And what would that b-" *KA-PUNCH* (Solas soars over the horizon, a rapidly shrinking speck that vanishes in the clouds with a twinkle)
"The incredible upper body strength I developed by personally digging graves for every single person I killed on my way here."
(Roll credits)
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 13:32:52 GMT
We "deny" funerals to the hundreds of people we slaughter in service of our various goals, so... meh. Heroes do tend to be given a proper send off though. If we do the ultimate sacrifice in DAO, then there is a proper funeral for our Hero. If Loghain does the ultimate sacrifice then he gets a memorial overlooking Denerim, as though still guarding Ferelden. It is said in Last Flight that people came from across Thedas to honour Garahel at his funeral. So it does seem customary to do this. Admittedly the examples I have given all died as Grey Wardens but you would think that Varric at least would want to properly honour his friend Hawke, not just a quick hug and be done with it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 13:35:16 GMT
"The incredible upper body strength I developed by personally digging graves for every single person I killed on my way here." Well it would be different and Solas certainly wouldn't see them coming. What will they call you? The Gravedigger.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 30, 2020 13:40:10 GMT
We "deny" funerals to the hundreds of people we slaughter in service of our various goals, so... meh. Heroes do tend to be given a proper send off though. If we do the ultimate sacrifice in DAO, then there is a proper funeral for our Hero. If Loghain does the ultimate sacrifice then he gets a memorial overlooking Denerim, as though still guarding Ferelden. It is said in Last Flight that people came from across Thedas to honour Garahel at his funeral. So it does seem customary to do this. Admittedly the examples I have given all died as Grey Wardens but you would think that Varric at least would want to properly honour his friend Hawke, not just a quick hug and be done with it. I'm mostly commenting on the notion that denying a central character a funeral is particularly cruel or evil. In the hypothetical scenario of doing it to Varric, Varric can't possibly care at this point if he gets a funeral or not. But if it is a cruel act, then a "proper funeral" shouldn't be denied to almost anybody. The only people who actually are hurt by Varric not getting a funeral are the players who liked him. Personally, if we absolutely MUST be told which former party members did or didn't die, I'd rather it be in a codex, rather than devote money and time to having beloved characters show up to just to have a brief moment of incandescent fan service in the form of a glorious, sacrificial death.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 30, 2020 15:55:40 GMT
The Dalish bury their dead and plant a tree with them. You can mention this to Alistair in DAO as a Dalish elf. As for surface dwarves, they cannot return to the Stone, but if they are Andrastian, they are probably burned. If there is such a thing as "the stone"
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 30, 2020 17:48:33 GMT
I think The Descent kinda settled that debate. "The Stone" might not exactly be as the dwarves envisioned (ie. an all-encompassing presence that loves its children) but the Titans still kinda fit the bill as giant rock lobsters monsters.
(On that note, I wish BioWare hadn't called them Titans. I feel like I keep tripping over that name everywhere I go these days outside of works based on Greek mythology. Anthem has Titans, Mortal Kombat has Titans, Godzilla has Titans, etc. They should have picked something more dwarfy-sounding, like "galeb duhr" but less plaigiristic.)
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 20:22:01 GMT
Even if Inquisitor was coming back my answer about Varric would be the same. And my reponse also would be the same. Jeez that is just cold. Poor Varric.
I mean this just as evil as leaving Cailan´s corpse or give him to the wolves. By the way i always hated it that was even a decision.
I love it if it is a choice, because then every one can get what they want. I would found it cold, if we haven't a choice and musst go on. Let him be where he is.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 20:25:48 GMT
And my reponse also would be the same. Jeez that is just cold. Poor Varric.
I mean this just as evil as leaving Cailan´s corpse or give him to the wolves. By the way i always hated it that was even a decision.
Eh, being evil in a video game is no big deal To be honest I wish the same thing for Leliana, but that's only because Bioware overrode some of the community's decision just to bring her back front and center in Inquisition. Always came off as a bit of a middle finger to part of the community imo. "It's not a retcon, you just misunderstood. You assumed things you shouldn't. Stop assuming things! Just because you killed her doesn't mean you killed her, only we can determine if you killed her and we say that you didn't actually kill her. And what we say is the most important thing after all. Stamp your feet all you want but it won't change anything, but yes Bioware still is all about choice and consequence, I don't know why you would think otherwise."I don't even want to see Leliana in Dragon Age 4. It would be cool with leliana, if they haven't make it to easy for them self. It would be very life service, if we have in DAI different world state to experience. But no, all my 10 world state are almost the same. Boring
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 20:46:48 GMT
I remember something. The dev. have shown on twitter a red book with a tower and a flame with a wolf head above. When concept art from this book was shown there was a picture of varric. As many belive this is a book before dragon age 4 was rebootet, varric was long planed to be in this game. hopefuly there is a reason more than bringing hawk to the Inquistion.
Don't get me wrong, i love varric in DAI. More than in DA2(what i have seen). But for him beeing there without any reason, only as some companion which makes no sense to be there. I don't know. i would rather include such a super character as a romance option or in a very fitting story. That he can shine like Cullen or Solas.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 31, 2020 14:37:06 GMT
I remember something. The dev. have shown on twitter a red book with a tower and a flame with a wolf head above. When concept art from this book was shown there was a picture of varric. As many belive this is a book before dragon age 4 was rebootet, varric was long planed to be in this game. hopefuly there is a reason more than bringing hawk to the Inquistion. Don't get me wrong, i love varric in DAI. More than in DA2(what i have seen). But for him beeing there without any reason, only as some companion which makes no sense to be there. I don't know. i would rather include such a super character as a romance option or in a very fitting story. That he can shine like Cullen or Solas. I think it would be cool if he returned as a war table advisor. Then again not everyone was fond of that feature.
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Post by duskwanderer on Jan 3, 2021 3:12:31 GMT
Varric doesn't NEED to be "in the game" per say. He could always just be the avatar, a sort of common thread stand in, not for the player character, but for the player journeying Thedas.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 12, 2021 3:42:22 GMT
Orzammar dwarves bury their dead, or perhaps entomb is the better word. Anyway the idea is that you become one with the stone and make the foundations of the thaig stronger if I remember correctly. No idea about surface dwarves. I'd imagine the old-school kalnas families that maintained close ties to Orzammar and dwarves who wear their ancestral pride on their sleeves would continue to bury their dead underground, because it's tradition. Bartrand for instance, strikes me as someone who'd insist on being buried, whereas Varric likely has no qualms about being cremated.
On a side note, is anyone else curious about the tombs we've seen on the surface belonging to dwarven Grey Wardens?
Is this is how Grey Wardens normally honour dwarven Wardens who don't perish in the Deep Roads, the result of other Dwarven Wardens wanted to bury their kinsmen properly, or the families of those Wardens having put something up in their honour?
The Dalish bury their dead and plant a tree with them. You can mention this to Alistair in DAO as a Dalish elf. This practice is likely how the Emerald Graves became so densely forested and earned it's name, as one mass grave for all the Elves killed during the Exalted Marches.
Inquisition even gives a couple hints how the Elven funeral rites evolved in the wake of the fall of the Dales, as prior to it, it appears that Elves would bury their dead in barrows under a tree, with stone slabs serving as a grave markers (such as the graveyard in the Exalted Plains). Whereas in the Emerald Graves we only see trees with a few stones piled on top of each other to serve as a marker (if given a marker at all).
I guess the sheer scale of lives lost during the Exalted Marches forced the change in custom, as they had little time for elaborate burials anymore and may have feared that leaving obvious graves could meant their dead would be profaned by enemy soldiers or looters.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 12, 2021 19:03:37 GMT
Inquisition even gives a couple hints how the Elven funeral rites evolved in the wake of the fall of the Dales, as prior to it, it appears that Elves would bury their dead in barrows under a tree, with stone slabs serving as a grave markers (such as the graveyard in the Exalted Plains). Yet those Emerald Knights who were involved with Red Crossing were buried in the Knight's Tomb, which always struck me as strange because clearly the inhabitants of the Dales didn't erect it. So they seemed happy to use this large structure to inter their dead. I wonder who originally constructed it because of the large wolf guardian at the door. Or was the wolf statue only a more modern addition from the time of the Dales? I've also question the majority of those wolf statues but particularly the gigantic one overlooking the Exalted Plains. Why would the elves of the Dales erect loads of wolf statues? Trying to appease Fen'Harel? Hoping he'd drive off their enemies, like the smaller statues outside their camps? Or was the big wolf a relic of a bygone age? In which case, when exactly was it erected because the moment Fen'Harel fell out of favour, wouldn't the other Evanuris have destroyed it?
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Post by ellanathehamster on Jan 12, 2021 20:11:14 GMT
Honestly? A tweet I saw perfectly sums up how I feel about Varric's return.
"Varric, Retire bitch!!
Carver Hawke"
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Post by Sifr on Jan 18, 2021 13:33:47 GMT
Yet those Emerald Knights who were involved with Red Crossing were buried in the Knight's Tomb, which always struck me as strange because clearly the inhabitants of the Dales didn't erect it. So they seemed happy to use this large structure to inter their dead. I wonder who originally constructed it because of the large wolf guardian at the door. Or was the wolf statue only a more modern addition from the time of the Dales? I've also question the majority of those wolf statues but particularly the gigantic one overlooking the Exalted Plains. Why would the elves of the Dales erect loads of wolf statues? Trying to appease Fen'Harel? Hoping he'd drive off their enemies, like the smaller statues outside their camps? Or was the big wolf a relic of a bygone age? In which case, when exactly was it erected because the moment Fen'Harel fell out of favour, wouldn't the other Evanuris have destroyed it? I always assumed the Knight's tombs, Wolf statues and various buildings like the Citadel (with it's crazy magic lasergun) were all constructed by the Ancient Elves, before being repurposed by the Dalish centuries later.
The Dalish might have chosen to bury the Emerald Knights in an important looking Ancient Elven building as a means to honour them, similar to famous British explorers, authors and soldiers are sometimes honoured by being buried in Westminster Abbey, alongside long-dead Kings and Queens.
Isn't the Dalish demonisation of Wolves something of a modern inclusion in their culture, I seem to recall something about the Emerald Knights fighting alongside tamed wolves? Perhaps the Dalish's modern antipathy for wolves stems the realisation that their clans could not afford to lose even a single Halla to a wolf attack, as without the means to pull their aravels, they were easy pickings for their enemies.
The demonisation of wolves might have also been linked to their association with Fen'Harel. We know that Fen'Harel became more reviled over time, as the word "Harel" these days denotes a traitor or dread, but in the past it simply denoted someone who rebelled.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 18, 2021 19:33:10 GMT
I seem to recall something about the Emerald Knights fighting alongside tamed wolves? I know about then fighting with wolves alongside. It is just the size of the statues that bothered me. So if the statues were already there they might have repurposed them to honour the wolf guardians but otherwise so many large wolf statues around the place seems odd if the wolf guardians were commonplace. Why big statues to honour the wolves and just trees for their warriors? The demonisation of wolves might have also been linked to their association with Fen'Harel. We know that Fen'Harel became more reviled over time, as the word "Harel" these days denotes a traitor or dread, but in the past it simply denoted someone who rebelled. I do find it odd how human scholars managed to come up with a different meaning to the accepted Dalish one when even Flemeth calls Solas the "Dread Wolf". I think the term was also meant to denote a traitor or fell being at the time of the Evanuris as well. Why would simply calling him a rebel be considered an insult and term of derision by his enemies? Why would Solas have adopted the insult as a means of putting fear into his enemies if it merely meant "rebel". Clearly it was intended initially to indicate someone who was dangerous and should be avoided. The alternative meaning given to "Harel" was just the writers heavy handed way of introducing the idea that Fen'Harel may not be as bad as the Dalish portrayed him before all the revelations in Trespasser. After all, in Masked Empire, Felassan calls a "demon mage" an "era'harel". If we assume "era" is a mage then "harel" is a demon. No one could say Felassan got that wrong considering it was the corpse of a mage possessed by a demon, plus he was an ancient elf, so harel definitely means something fearful, not simply a rebel.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 21, 2021 17:48:24 GMT
The demonisation of wolves might have also been linked to their association with Fen'Harel. We know that Fen'Harel became more reviled over time, as the word "Harel" these days denotes a traitor or dread, but in the past it simply denoted someone who rebelled. I do find it odd how human scholars managed to come up with a different meaning to the accepted Dalish one when even Flemeth calls Solas the "Dread Wolf". I think the term was also meant to denote a traitor or fell being at the time of the Evanuris as well. Why would simply calling him a rebel be considered an insult and term of derision by his enemies? Why would Solas have adopted the insult as a means of putting fear into his enemies if it merely meant "rebel". Clearly it was intended initially to indicate someone who was dangerous and should be avoided. The alternative meaning given to "Harel" was just the writers heavy handed way of introducing the idea that Fen'Harel may not be as bad as the Dalish portrayed him before all the revelations in Trespasser. After all, in Masked Empire, Felassan calls a "demon mage" an "era'harel". If we assume "era" is a mage then "harel" is a demon. No one could say Felassan got that wrong considering it was the corpse of a mage possessed by a demon, plus he was an ancient elf, so harel definitely means something fearful, not simply a rebel. Language does shift over time and Flemeth been a living witness to many centuries, so her using the modern transliteration of his name wouldn't be all that surprising. And you have to admit that calling him "Dread" in that situation was somewhat appropriate, since he had come there to effectively "kill" her, take her power for himself and intend to use it to tear down the Veil.
But you're right that Felassan's usage implies that "Harel" did have similar connotations during the time of the Evanuris. That would track with what we're told about how the Elven language operating more as a "game of intents" than literal translation and since even the Elves don't remember their language anymore, you could understand why Chantry scholars attempting to translate the Elven language into Common might have completely gotten the wrong end of the stick about why some words had vastly different meanings?
(I mean, just take the idiom used above, "the wrong end of the stick". Unless you understood the meaning and context that phrase was meant to convey, it would come across as complete gibberish, even to other native speakers of the language. That's pretty much the entire Elven language in a nutshell).
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 21, 2021 18:13:26 GMT
you could understand why Chantry scholars attempting to translate the Elven language into Common might have completely gotten the wrong end of the stick about why some words had vastly different meanings? I think it was university of Orlais scholars actually and what I really objected to was the implication that this was another thing the Dalish "got wrong" when in fact the got it entirely right. Plus where exactly would the university scholars have got the idea of a different translation from if they didn't believe the Dalish version? There isn't the Thedas equivalent of a Rosetta Stone out there and surely the Dalish, who have been working at trying to recapture their language for the best part of 1000 years, would have a better idea of the meaning of ancient elven texts than some humans scholars who have only been working on it for a few decades? Like I say, the writers were trying to be a bit too clever with that one.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 13, 2021 21:11:47 GMT
First off David Gaider isn´t longer involved in DA but maybe his passion to kill Varric will contuine without him. I hope not because i still love Varric as a character. He should retire and not be killed.
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Post by Zemgus on Apr 13, 2021 21:31:40 GMT
I'm happy Varric is coming back and I also don't care if they kill him. Important characters and companions should sometimes die - that's one of the problems with Inquisition you never lose after Haven (and even in Haven the only people who die are characters you either don't know or care about). I think the main villain of the next game killing one of your companions at certain point of the game could be a great motivator. Edit: I'm glad they didn't kill Varric in DA2. I almost like him more in DAI than in DA2. His relationship with Cassandra was the best and he was a good friend to my Inquisitor (and I can't wait to hear him narrate the Inquisitors story over at the Keep - been waiting for that to happen for many, many years now!)
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