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Post by gethadept on Jun 9, 2017 5:55:22 GMT
Okay so no more equipments and leave every single gip. The change for getting money if you disconnect is cool though. pretty much this. and wish luck for the team... if they lose a player
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Jun 9, 2017 5:59:52 GMT
you just have to earn your credits my dude
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 9, 2017 6:13:43 GMT
you just have to earn your credits my dude If I have a game with 4 people and one of them drops out due to whatever, I want to encourage people to join my game to help me finish. Not have them waste their time with a lower payout. Especially when they can't even tell they're joining a GIP in the first place.
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Post by auronio on Jun 9, 2017 7:01:24 GMT
Can someone help and explain me how I see whether a lobby is already running/on mission? Most likely I'm too dumb to see it but I really don't know. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Scathane on Jun 9, 2017 7:07:55 GMT
Only thing for me is that I can only complete (that is, ticking it of the Strike Teams menu) an APEX mission is if I do all 7 waves: it stays on there if I join the mission as it's in progress. And, no, you can't auronio, so a GIP indicator would be nice indeed...
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Post by Uchimura on Jun 9, 2017 7:10:25 GMT
What a gip.
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Post by vomder on Jun 9, 2017 7:40:16 GMT
Already had to leave a game after getting put into one in progress. Can't wait to do that a thousand more times because of this big 'fuck you' to players.
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Post by auronio on Jun 9, 2017 8:55:37 GMT
Only thing for me is that I can only complete (that is, ticking it of the Strike Teams menu) an APEX mission is if I do all 7 waves: it stays on there if I join the mission as it's in progress. And, no, you can't auronio, so a GIP indicator would be nice indeed... So it's only this indirect indicator of joining a lobby where all other members are already marked ready and everybody seems to be waiting for you. Of course not. LOL At least this I've figured out. Might also mean - as I'm regularly starting public lobby missions alone being to impatient waiting for others but expecting others to join in wave 2 or 3 latest - I will find myself in future more frequently still alone in wave 6 provided I had survived long enough and asking myself why I didn't take another kit and higher level boosters. And why 5 consumables are not always enough for an inadvertent solo.
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Post by thelostturian on Jun 9, 2017 9:04:35 GMT
I would have no problem with this if there were a clear indication that you are about to join a GIP.
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Post by sepherusfr on Jun 9, 2017 9:25:27 GMT
So now along with the fact that when a guy stays behind at extraction we get less credit, we get even less now? Just because i couldn't choose to join a game that hasn't started yet? Guess i'll be hosting from now on and waiting for full team so no one gets shafted
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Post by wnieves1 on Jun 9, 2017 9:25:42 GMT
For my situation, this is helpful. Since I am plagued with CTDs. Some credits are better than nothing.
I usually start solo and wait for reinforcements, but now it will be discourage.
The constant loss of boosters keeps me from going gold lobbies. So I play on silver without boosters (PC).
Level up new characters solo on bronze.
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Post by Scathane on Jun 9, 2017 9:39:24 GMT
So it's only this indirect indicator of joining a lobby where all other members are already marked ready and everybody seems to be waiting for you. Of course not. LOL At least this I've figured out. Might also mean - as I'm regularly starting public lobby missions alone being to impatient waiting for others but expecting others to join in wave 2 or 3 latest - I will find myself in future more frequently still alone in wave 6 provided I had survived long enough and asking myself why I didn't take another kit and higher level boosters. And why 5 consumables are not always enough for an inadvertent solo. Perhaps it's EA trying to civilise us into not starting games solo...
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Post by auronio on Jun 9, 2017 10:59:17 GMT
So it's only this indirect indicator of joining a lobby where all other members are already marked ready and everybody seems to be waiting for you. Of course not. LOL At least this I've figured out. Might also mean - as I'm regularly starting public lobby missions alone being to impatient waiting for others but expecting others to join in wave 2 or 3 latest - I will find myself in future more frequently still alone in wave 6 provided I had survived long enough and asking myself why I didn't take another kit and higher level boosters. And why 5 consumables are not always enough for an inadvertent solo. Perhaps it's EA trying to civilise us into not starting games solo... Yes, all these little bastards who can't just stick to what was intended to be their place and position in world and game. All little anarchists. But we will show them. Just a little bit more Hydra/Ascendant sync-kill, a few berserkers firing you out of each cover, a few additional laser beams to give them the right medicine. We surely will cure them from soloing...
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Post by brannigans1ove on Jun 9, 2017 11:06:39 GMT
In theory this is a good thing, but depends on how it's implemented. If it's a linear relationship based on number of waves completed, it's not very fair, if it's based on wave budget of waves completed, that's better.
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Post by KingTony on Jun 9, 2017 11:10:33 GMT
So THAT'S why I haven't gotten any credits over the past few weeks!
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Post by Kazu on Jun 9, 2017 12:05:51 GMT
It feels rather "meh" if you lose over 9k credits because you join mid wave 1 and not before wave 1 starts.
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Post by Scathane on Jun 9, 2017 12:12:09 GMT
Perhaps it's EA trying to civilise us into not starting games solo... Yes, all these little bastards who can't just stick to what was intended to be their place and position in world and game. All little anarchists. But we will show them. Just a little bit more Hydra/Ascendant sync-kill, a few berserkers firing you out of each cover, a few additional laser beams to give them the right medicine. We surely will cure them from soloing...
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Post by sissiradisti on Jun 9, 2017 14:24:15 GMT
My credit income has come down something like 20-30% after the latest patch. I never had any CTD problems and was never kicked on wave 7. You know whats the worst part of this. If match maker puts me on wave 6 and i have to use all of my supplies to save that sorry ass team. I barely make any profit out of that. this has happened several time now and it really starts to piss me off.
waves 1,2,4,5 are just filler waves and should have nothing to do with how much credits you earn in the end. Thats just my thoughts.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 9, 2017 14:36:34 GMT
I honestly think it's debatable whether all this was worth it to address credit glitching.
Coming up with a system to avoid losing experience/credits when disconnected is great. But implementing it did not require penalizing players who join in progress - that was done to prevent credit glitching, and in practical terms, it really comes off as punishing the community for the actions of the few.
And I doubt it will accomplish much. The theory behind actions like this has always been that credit glitching represents a direct loss to the company, and I really don't believe that has ever been particularly true. Some of the credit glitchers would have bought packs, but most of them likely wouldn't have spent much regardless of whether the exploit existed.
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Post by vomder on Jun 9, 2017 14:55:21 GMT
Seriously this if fucking stupid. It's even harder to find matches now, what with laggy games, incompetent teammates, and gip being worthless.
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Post by gethadept on Jun 9, 2017 14:58:19 GMT
Seriously this if fucking stupid. It's even harder to find matches now, what with laggy games, incompetent teammates, and gip being worthless. Ultimately speaking it`s not a good idea to implement any change that deters a player from joining and playing the game.
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Post by Sparkz on Jun 9, 2017 15:03:15 GMT
I had to duo a gold last night because nobody joined the game in progress. That has NEVER happened before.
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Post by vomder on Jun 9, 2017 15:19:41 GMT
This shit makes me want to cheat
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Post by Transcended One on Jun 9, 2017 15:30:12 GMT
So this mechanic, does it eliminate the credit exploit?
So it's nice for people still having frequent disconnects on wave 6/7, but it sucks for people joining in wave 1 (which happens to everyone pugging) because you get 11K credits less. The first is a good thing, the latter is pretty awful.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 9, 2017 16:38:19 GMT
So it's nice for people still having frequent disconnects on wave 6/7, but it sucks for people joining in wave 1 (which happens to everyone pugging) because you get 11K credits less. Doesn't matter when you join, you're always missing at least 11k credits compared to what you should've earned. Today I joined during wave one and left at the beginning of wave 7 (to simulate a ctd or disconnect). Resulted in a whopping 14.000 credits for 5,5 waves. Thank you, biover. Pls. Slowly the pug's seem to realize what's going on and are starting to leave lobbies that are obviously in progress. Very bad for people who looses a teammember during later waves and are now missing out on reinforcements. Nice ninja nerf, disguised as charity.
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