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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 16, 2017 19:35:28 GMT
Just no. Don't even say this game deserves a 9. It most certainly does not. It's got some good gameplay mechanics and I personally like the crafting. The story however is uninspired and boring and for a game of discovery and exploration, it has very little of anything new or interesting to discover. I had more fun scanning planets in the old game and reading the history of a given planet than driving around endlessly in MEA and shooting the SAME.F**KING.MONSTERS over and over and over and over and over and over again. You can patch silly animations and asari clones and well..maybe not Krogans slapping each other like prepubescent siblings having a temper tantrum but you can't patch a story that even the in game characters don't care about. There is not enough variety in this game and a silly grab-a** tone that feels out of place. Game play? 8 or 9 no problem. Story and characters? 5. Overall, patch until you turn blue, it doesn't deserve more than a seven and even that is generous. You give this game a nine, you need to go back and score other games that deliver a fantastic cohesive experience a higher score. I'd give this game a 9.2 or above. (That's Tier 1) C'mon, are you ignoring the fact that you didn't get permission to do so?  Bow before The Narrative, peasant! |
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Post by jclosed on Jun 16, 2017 20:02:47 GMT
except just as it goes for a book, a movie, a play, a large piece of music i don't think a whole game can be judged from the first 10% of game play . Did you buy it ? I don't know any stats regarding the matter, but i'd be curious to know how many didn't buy the game after the $5 preview. Uh - I think it's totally reasonable to not like something after experiencing 10% of it. If I'm reading an 800 page fantasy epic, and the first 80 pages suck, I'm not going to waste me time in hopes it gets better. If a two hour movie rental hasn't sucked me in after 25-30 mins, I'll gladly find something else to watch (although I'd argue the shorter something is, the more likely I'll get through it). Not judging something till you've experienced it fully seems an iIncredibly inefficient and indecisive way to live your life. Not to mention a waste of time, money and resources when there's better options all around you. Like Zelda, or H:ZD, or Nier, etc. Well - that depends. I don't know if you ever have seen films from the Swedish movie director Ingmar Bergman. Especially the film "Fanny och Alexander" has a seemingly boring first half. After that first half however all unexpected pieces fall together, and you can see that first "boring" part gets brilliant in retrospective. I know a lot of books that work the same way. So no, quitting after only 10% of a game, film or book does not give the overall impression for the total piece. You can say it's not your taste, you lack patience or you just not want invest time in it, but you cannot fully judge a piece of work if you not have read, seen of experienced it completely. That's just my humble opinion. |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 16, 2017 20:09:46 GMT
Uh - I think it's totally reasonable to not like something after experiencing 10% of it. Ironically I agree with this, but ultimately if the first 10% is the worst 10% then the joke's on you. Whichever way you slice it you're still not experiencing 90% of the material, and I'd imagine most reviews and viewers/gamers would forgive some bad content if the other 90% were good. Weirdly, I found MEA didn't really fit this. I enjoyed the first bit on Habitat 7, then got a bit bogged down in sidequests around Voeld, then everything picked up when the loyalty missions kicked in. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 20:16:29 GMT
Uh - I think it's totally reasonable to not like something after experiencing 10% of it. If I'm reading an 800 page fantasy epic, and the first 80 pages suck, I'm not going to waste me time in hopes it gets better. If a two hour movie rental hasn't sucked me in after 25-30 mins, I'll gladly find something else to watch (although I'd argue the shorter something is, the more likely I'll get through it). Not judging something till you've experienced it fully seems an iIncredibly inefficient and indecisive way to live your life. Not to mention a waste of time, money and resources when there's better options all around you. Like Zelda, or H:ZD, or Nier, etc. Well - that depends. I don't know if you ever have seen films from the Swedish movie director Ingmar Bergman. Especially the film "Fanny och Alexander" has a seemingly boring first half. After that first half however all unexpected pieces fall together, and you can see that first "boring" part gets brilliant in retrospective. I know a lot of books that work the same way. So no, quitting after only 10% of a game, film or book does not give the overall impression for the total piece. You can say it's not your taste, you lack patience or you just not want invest time in it, but you cannot fully judge a piece of work if you not have read, seen of experienced it completely. That's just my humble opinion. First impressions make all the difference - if an artist isn’t capable of making a good first impression - hasn’t taken the time to craft his work so that it makes a good first impression, he is essentially not valuing the time/resources of the consumer. I don’t have time for that. Maybe when I’m retired, or if I was living in my parent’s basement - then that would be an option. I think where you are in life determines whether or not you are able to experience something completely... |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 16, 2017 20:25:51 GMT
I think where you are in life determines whether or not you are able to experience something completely...  |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 20:30:17 GMT
I think where you are in life determines whether or not you are able to experience something completely... Well lets say, for example, that you live in your parents basement. You pay no bills, you’re single (but not looking), you wake up at 2pm everyday, and hygiene isn’t important to you. School is overrated, and its not like you’re unemployed, because you just got hired as a mod on 4chan. So in your spare time (all of your time), you can play a game to your heart’s content, because no one or anything else is pressing you for your time. Why wouldn’t you play Andromeda for 100 hours? |
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Post by jclosed on Jun 16, 2017 20:34:54 GMT
Well - that depends. I don't know if you ever have seen films from the Swedish movie director Ingmar Bergman. Especially the film "Fanny och Alexander" has a seemingly boring first half. After that first half however all unexpected pieces fall together, and you can see that first "boring" part gets brilliant in retrospective. I know a lot of books that work the same way. So no, quitting after only 10% of a game, film or book does not give the overall impression for the total piece. You can say it's not your taste, you lack patience or you just not want invest time in it, but you cannot fully judge a piece of work if you not have read, seen of experienced it completely. That's just my humble opinion. First impressions make all the difference - if an artist isn’t capable of making a good first impression - hasn’t taken the time to craft his work so that it makes a good first impression, he is essentially not valuing the time/resources of the consumer. I don’t have time for that. Maybe when I’m retired, or if I was living in my parent’s basement - then that would be an option. I think where you are in life determines whether or not you are able to experience something completely... Hmm... Well I am 62 now, and "Fanny och Alexander" was in 1982. I was 27 around that time. I don't know if that relevant in any way to be honest, but it seems I had a lot of patience at that age already (and no - my mum lived 300 kilometers from where I was working and living at that time).. ;-). |
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Post by abaris on Jun 16, 2017 20:36:24 GMT
Well lets say, for example, that you live in your parents basement. You pay no bills, you’re single (but not looking), you wake up at 2pm everyday, and hygiene isn’t important to you. School is overrated, and its not like you’re unemployed, because you just got hired as a mod on 4chan. So in your spare time (all of your time), you can play a game to your heart’s content, because no one or anything else is pressing you for your time. Why wouldn’t you play Andromeda for 100 hours? Speaking about yourself here? Only swapping the word Andromeda with Zelda? You know there's positive and negative trolling. Positive such as people with a see no evil, hear no evil attitude, who treat this game as if they were constantly on their knees praying to the gods of game creation for it's release. But then there's the negative troll, treating this game as if it was the worst that ever hit the market. And if that doesn't fall on fertile soil, resort to ad hominems against people liking the game. Apart from their obvious fanboyism for another title that was released on a single platform. Everyone else's fault if they don't feel inclined to go out an buy each and every console there is, apart that a game's setting has to appeal to the individual gamer before they even decide on giving it a chance. |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 16, 2017 20:42:02 GMT
Well lets say, for example, that you live in your parents basement. You pay no bills, you’re single (but not looking), you wake up at 2pm everyday, and hygiene isn’t important to you. School is overrated, and its not like you’re unemployed, because you just got hired as a mod on 4chan. So in your spare time (all of your time), you can play a game to your heart’s content, because no one or anything else is pressing you for your time. Why wouldn’t you play Andromeda for 100 hours? Well, let's say for example that you're not actually any of those things - you pay your bills, you have a well-paying steady job, and you at least groom yourself to the standard of a normal human being. And (at last count) you have ~140 hours logged on MEA and don't regret it. Does that make you... fake? A liar? Do you break reality? I suspect more dank memes are needed if that is indeed the case. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 20:43:40 GMT
First impressions make all the difference - if an artist isn’t capable of making a good first impression - hasn’t taken the time to craft his work so that it makes a good first impression, he is essentially not valuing the time/resources of the consumer. I don’t have time for that. Maybe when I’m retired, or if I was living in my parent’s basement - then that would be an option. I think where you are in life determines whether or not you are able to experience something completely... Hmm... Well I am 62 now, and "Fanny och Alexander" was in 1982. I was 27 around that time. I don't know if that relevant in any way to be honest, but it seems I had a lot of patience at that age already (and no - my mum lived 300 kilometers from where I was working and living at that time).. ;-). The pace of life was a lot slower back then with way less distractions. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 20:44:16 GMT
Well lets say, for example, that you live in your parents basement. You pay no bills, you’re single (but not looking), you wake up at 2pm everyday, and hygiene isn’t important to you. School is overrated, and its not like you’re unemployed, because you just got hired as a mod on 4chan. So in your spare time (all of your time), you can play a game to your heart’s content, because no one or anything else is pressing you for your time. Why wouldn’t you play Andromeda for 100 hours? Well, let's say for example that you're not actually any of those things - you pay your bills, you have a well-paying steady job, and you at least groom yourself to the standard of a normal human being. And (at last count) you have ~140 hours logged on MEA and don't regret it. Does that make you... fake? A liar? Do you break reality? I suspect more dank memes are needed if that is indeed the case. That makes you single  |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 16, 2017 20:47:21 GMT
That makes you single Ah, I see... so the girlfriend is fake. I have to admit I didn't see that coming.  |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 20:49:16 GMT
That makes you single Ah, I see... so the girlfriend is fake. I have to admit I didn't see that coming. Just because you have to inflate her doesn’t mean she’s fake! |
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Post by jclosed on Jun 16, 2017 20:51:39 GMT
Hmm... Well I am 62 now, and "Fanny och Alexander" was in 1982. I was 27 around that time. I don't know if that relevant in any way to be honest, but it seems I had a lot of patience at that age already (and no - my mum lived 300 kilometers from where I was working and living at that time).. ;-). The pace of life was a lot slower back then with way less distractions. That is one thing I cannot argue against. Although I must say at that time I was running a foundation for graphic artist with a couple of friends, did some artistic work myself (holography using Lasers), was making Synthesizer music, did some programming (database systems) and was running a electronic repair shop with a staff of 17. I would call that a little hectic to be honest. Since then I slowed down a bit.. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 21:04:11 GMT
The pace of life was a lot slower back then with way less distractions. That is one thing I cannot argue against. Although I must say at that time I was running a foundation for graphic artist with a couple of friends, did some artistic work myself (holography using Lasers), was making Synthesizer music, did some programming (database systems) and was running a electronic repair shop with a staff of 17. I would call that a little hectic to be honest. Since then I slowed down a bit.. Fair enough - I think my point is probably more that Bioware should have been aware of Andromeda’s pacing, and how kids today, growing up surrounded by tech, don’t necessarily have the time to sink 30 hours into a game for it to be rewarding. Plugging through an entire 300 page novel because the first 30 pages suck can be done in a day, plugging through 30 hours of a 100 hour game - that needs extra time and devotion. it’s not realistic to expect someone to attempt that if they feel they’re not being rewarded for their time, and can make better use of their time elsewhere. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 16, 2017 22:33:56 GMT
You must read a lot of shitty books, watch a lot of terrible movies, and play through an awful assortment of games. Not everyone has that sort of time to waste. That sort of mentality says a lot about you. Ooh and now you want to be judgey this should be fun. |
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Post by smilesja on Jun 16, 2017 22:38:47 GMT
You must read a lot of shitty books, watch a lot of terrible movies, and play through an awful assortment of games. Not everyone has that sort of time to waste. That sort of mentality says a lot about you. Ooh and now you want to be judgey this should be fun. He's just proven your point. |
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Post by kino on Jun 16, 2017 22:46:14 GMT
Well lets say, for example, that you live in your parents basement. You pay no bills, you’re single (but not looking), you wake up at 2pm everyday, and hygiene isn’t important to you. School is overrated, and its not like you’re unemployed, because you just got hired as a mod on 4chan. So in your spare time (all of your time), you can play a game to your heart’s content, because no one or anything else is pressing you for your time. Why wouldn’t you play Andromeda for 100 hours? Speaking about yourself here? Only swapping the word Andromeda with Zelda? You know there's positive and negative trolling. Positive such as people with a see no evil, hear no evil attitude, who treat this game as if they were constantly on their knees praying to the gods of game creation for it's release. But then there's the negative troll, treating this game as if it was the worst that ever hit the market. And if that doesn't fall on fertile soil, resort to ad hominems against people liking the game. Apart from their obvious fanboyism for another title that was released on a single platform. Everyone else's fault if they don't feel inclined to go out an buy each and every console there is, apart that a game's setting has to appeal to the individual gamer before they even decide on giving it a chance. Ad hominem's are his forte, except they're so poorly done that no one really gives any credence to them...which doesn't speak well for his only strong suit. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 23:37:04 GMT
Speaking about yourself here? Only swapping the word Andromeda with Zelda? You know there's positive and negative trolling. Positive such as people with a see no evil, hear no evil attitude, who treat this game as if they were constantly on their knees praying to the gods of game creation for it's release. But then there's the negative troll, treating this game as if it was the worst that ever hit the market. And if that doesn't fall on fertile soil, resort to ad hominems against people liking the game. Apart from their obvious fanboyism for another title that was released on a single platform. Everyone else's fault if they don't feel inclined to go out an buy each and every console there is, apart that a game's setting has to appeal to the individual gamer before they even decide on giving it a chance. Ad hominem's are his forte, except they're so poorly done that no one really gives any credence to them...which doesn't speak well for his only strong suit. I’d argue I’ve provided far more posts of substance that have generated honest discussions than all of you that reload your browsers and attack me for my opinions. Anyways, in the end, there will be no single-player DLC or expansions, and Andromeda will go down in history as the black sheep of Mass Effect - that’s looked back on with ridicule and derision. Anthem will hopefully learn from all of its mistakes, and we’ll get a good game. Feels good. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 16, 2017 23:42:05 GMT
Ad hominem's are his forte, except they're so poorly done that no one really gives any credence to them...which doesn't speak well for his only strong suit. I’d argue I’ve provided far more posts of substance that have generated honest discussions than all of you that reload your browsers and attack me for my opinions. |
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 16, 2017 23:43:55 GMT
Ad hominem's are his forte, except they're so poorly done that no one really gives any credence to them...which doesn't speak well for his only strong suit. I’d argue I’ve provided far more posts of substance that have generated honest discussions than all of you that reload your browsers and attack me for my opinions. Anyways, in the end, there will be no single-player DLC or expansions, and Andromeda will go down in history as the black sheep of Mass Effect - that’s looked back on with ridicule and derision. Anthem will hopefully learn from all of its mistakes, and we’ll get a good game. Feels good. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 16, 2017 23:48:37 GMT
I’d argue I’ve provided far more posts of substance that have generated honest discussions than all of you that reload your browsers and attack me for my opinions. Anyways, in the end, there will be no single-player DLC or expansions, and Andromeda will go down in history as the black sheep of Mass Effect - that’s looked back on with ridicule and derision. Anthem will hopefully learn from all of its mistakes, and we’ll get a good game. Feels good. Enjoy your 3-day ban. |
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