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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 4:21:11 GMT
On April 4th, page 2 of the pinned reviews thread, I wrote, "If I were a teacher, I would grade this game a 'B.' It is like an essay that appears admirable for its ambition, but the ambition simply exceeded what Bioware managed to practically deliver [...] but the breadth came at the sake of depth, or quality, in some key areas."
On May 9th, EA's CEO said, "Mass Effect [Andromeda] is an interesting title; it was in development for a really long time and represented a lot of the great things that BioWare is known for: story, size, depth, breadth, imagination" (Gamespot.com).
I don't know if he read my review, but I stand by it, and the Kotaku article seems to support it (failure to deliver on ambitious goals). Maybe I scored the game a tad high on release with a "B," or 8.5, in that I overlooked the bugs and facial animation issues, which never hindered my personal enjoyment, but now I can relax about it and don't need to overlook anything to justify my score.
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Post by mugwump v1 on Jun 19, 2017 5:09:28 GMT
Even as someone who found Andromeda to be entirely mediocre, I'd say that the game is just about worth a punt at 50% off. In the event you do end up pulling the trigger, tell us what you make of it.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 19, 2017 6:16:10 GMT
Changing score after patches ? Are you kidding me ? No one do that. MEA is still 5/10 for me, for very average story, uninteresting companions and really badly done fetch quests. Some small fixes or better animations cannot change that.
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Post by Serza on Jun 19, 2017 6:24:40 GMT
Oh, I'm sorry, but if the creator calls you a retard and not a true fan because your only investment in the universe doesn't come from his books, that really smells of bullshit. And I know about Heir, he didn't make shit. Hmm. Wonder when the karma is hitting on that one. Did you visit your Doctor? Because it sounds like you're butthurt. OT, probably an 8, above ME1, under the rest. Me, right now.
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Post by kumazan on Jun 19, 2017 6:36:09 GMT
I gave it a 8.5/10 after my first PT aknowledging that I was too positive, and that its terrible technical performance probably merited a lower score. Now that most of the patching has been done, I feel ME:A finally deserves that score.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Jun 19, 2017 6:50:06 GMT
I gave it a 7/10 at launch and it's still 7/10 game to me. Because you can't fix what annoyed me most in a patch. Only DLC and a sequel can but since you have to pay for them my score won't change.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 19, 2017 6:59:17 GMT
I gave it a 7/10 at launch and it's still 7/10 game to me. Because you can't fix what annoyed me most in a patch. Only DLC and a sequel can but since you have to pay for them my score won't change. It depends how you feel, but in my opinion DLC's can change a lot. For example, for me ME2 is main game + all dlc's, same with ME3. I will give the same chance to MEA if of course any DLC's will ever happen. Well, if it will be another Omega DLC run and kill, score will probably remain the same for me, but if it will be more like LOTSB, well - I always said - the key is the storytelling.
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Post by jclosed on Jun 19, 2017 7:54:11 GMT
Re: the creator calling people retards - what's this about? The author of The Witcher is just salty, because he has sold the rights for the game franchise for an not too high amount of money. It looked a good bet at that time. CDPR had originally offered him a percentage of the sales from the game, but he declined that and asked a fixed sum. If he had chosen that sales percentage, he would have a multitude of the sum that was payed to him. So - He turned grumpy on that. Also - his books got a great sale impulse driven by the popularity of TW3. He cannot stand that, and claims the game sold that good because the popularity of his books. When asked for that for the n'th time he got salty and said some unpleasant things. This all has nothing at all to do with the development studio (CDPR), and saying the TW3 game is rotten because of that frustrated author is completely and utterly ridiculous (the same can be said about that infantile yelling about that presumed SJW stuff in ME:A). Anyway - Back to topic. My score for ME:A is still "very good". I don't like that number score, because an 8 in America seems to be lower than a 8 in Europe. As far as I seem to understand a 8 in America means "average", While 6 to 7 means "average" in Europe. So I would give the game an 8.5 in the European scale, what means "above merely good, but below excellent".
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Post by cotheer on Jun 19, 2017 8:16:43 GMT
Still 6/10. The core of it is still the same.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 19, 2017 8:26:25 GMT
8 before patches, 9 now.
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Post by danielhungary on Jun 19, 2017 9:01:48 GMT
MEA was a launch title for me and i was played SP with every single patch. Im through more than 6 SP campaign. After v1.08 i can't give no more than 6 ,nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by abaris on Jun 19, 2017 9:17:56 GMT
I don't like that number score, because an 8 in America seems to be lower than a 8 in Europe. As far as I seem to understand a 8 in America means "average", While 6 to 7 means "average" in Europe. So I would give the game an 8.5 in the European scale, what means "above merely good, but below excellent". No, that seems to be the same everywhere. It's the game magazine's fault that they handed 80ies and 90ies left, right and center to every so called AAA title being released. That stuck in people's perception and they don't realize anymore that a 7 is still an above average rating. As is a 6 even. There's a reason why there are ten digits on the usual scale and everything between. Not everything is a 90, which speaks of a near flawless game or a 1, which implies a total trainwreck. This time they got it pretty right by averaging at 71, far as I remember. The game's good, it offers quite a lot, but it's not something memorable, exceptional or flawless. I for one would have expected quite a bit more from a game that had a five year development cycle.
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Post by Cypher on Jun 19, 2017 9:25:50 GMT
Andromeda gets an 8.1/10 from a 7.6/10. The issues that lie in the base game aren't really things you could just throw out a patch to fix --though a patch to up enemy spawn locations and make random spawns, along with random enemy on enemy attacks would go a long way-- so there's no way this game will eclipse an 8.5 as it stands, unless the game gets some pretty damn awesome DLC.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 10:18:40 GMT
Re: the creator calling people retards - what's this about? The author of The Witcher is just salty, because he has sold the rights for the game franchise for an not too high amount of money. It looked a good bet at that time. CDPR had originally offered him a percentage of the sales from the game, but he declined that and asked a fixed sum. If he had chosen that sales percentage, he would have a multitude of the sum that was payed to him. So - He turned grumpy on that. Also - his books got a great sale impulse driven by the popularity of TW3. He cannot stand that, and claims the game sold that good because the popularity of his books. When asked for that for the n'th time he got salty and said some unpleasant things. This all has nothing at all to do with the development studio (CDPR), and saying the TW3 game is rotten because of that frustrated author is completely and utterly ridiculous (the same can be said about that infantile yelling about that presumed SJW stuff in ME:A). Anyway - Back to topic. My score for ME:A is still "very good". I don't like that number score, because an 8 in America seems to be lower than a 8 in Europe. As far as I seem to understand a 8 in America means "average", While 6 to 7 means "average" in Europe. So I would give the game an 8.5 in the European scale, what means "above merely good, but below excellent". my god for once i agree with the Europeans. Honestly we have people on this forum (you know who are) who are treating this game like some massive failure...pointing to review scores and metacritic. Last time i checked 70+ wasn't a failure. And especially given the huge hurdles this game faced if i were bw I'd be cracking open the champagne at just how well it did.
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Post by tjmitchem on Jun 19, 2017 11:03:53 GMT
8.8/10
8/10 before the patch.
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Post by aglomeracja on Jun 19, 2017 11:13:13 GMT
6\10
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 11:16:59 GMT
Still 6/10. The core of it is still the same. This 100% A lot of MEA supporters seems to think that the ONLY thing wrong with MEA was the bugs and animations. However that is not the case and MEA has a plethora of problems that patches cannot fix. Patches cannot fix: 1) Dull Characters 2) Dull Ryder 3) Power Rangers style Villian 4) Fetch Quest 5) Dull Open World 6) Dull Narrative To MEA supporters they will disagree with that list but that does not stop the fact that items on that list IS a problem for many people and NO patch or NO DLC can fix that. The base game is what it is and cannot be fixed.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 11:27:15 GMT
The author of The Witcher is just salty, because he has sold the rights for the game franchise for an not too high amount of money. It looked a good bet at that time. CDPR had originally offered him a percentage of the sales from the game, but he declined that and asked a fixed sum. If he had chosen that sales percentage, he would have a multitude of the sum that was payed to him. So - He turned grumpy on that. Also - his books got a great sale impulse driven by the popularity of TW3. He cannot stand that, and claims the game sold that good because the popularity of his books. When asked for that for the n'th time he got salty and said some unpleasant things. This all has nothing at all to do with the development studio (CDPR), and saying the TW3 game is rotten because of that frustrated author is completely and utterly ridiculous (the same can be said about that infantile yelling about that presumed SJW stuff in ME:A). Anyway - Back to topic. My score for ME:A is still "very good". I don't like that number score, because an 8 in America seems to be lower than a 8 in Europe. As far as I seem to understand a 8 in America means "average", While 6 to 7 means "average" in Europe. So I would give the game an 8.5 in the European scale, what means "above merely good, but below excellent". Last time i checked 70+ wasn't a failure. And especially given the huge hurdles this game faced if i were bw I'd be cracking open the champagne at just how well it did. Problem with that is 2 things: 1) Mass Effect (the brand) is not 70+ but rather 80+ on a bad day. 70+ is not what was expected and please do not act like it was. 2) EA will most likely see the 70ish average below the standard which it is for a ME game. If it was 80ish we would be hearing teases about DLC from the devs along with a soft conformation from Bioware/EA that MEA2 is in the works and more MEA media coming such as more novels and perhaps a comic series. NONE of that has happened and we all know the future of MEA or ME as a whole is really close to being dead. 70ish score isnt bad, but for a brand such as Mass Effect from a developer such as Bioware.....70ish isnt something to celebrate.
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Post by nastrodamus on Jun 19, 2017 11:31:41 GMT
Still 6/10. The core of it is still the same. This 100% A lot of MEA supporters seems to think that the ONLY thing wrong with MEA was the bugs and animations. However that is not the case and MEA has a plethora of problems that patches cannot fix. Patches cannot fix: 1) Dull Characters 2) Dull Ryder 3) Power Rangers style Villian 4) Fetch Quest 5) Dull Open World 6) Dull Narrative To MEA supporters they will disagree with that list but that does not stop the fact that items on that list IS a problem for many people and NO patch or NO DLC can fix that. The base game is what it is and cannot be fixed. People will support this game no matter what. Doesn't change how far this game ended up tanking for ea and how the player base has shrunk so quickly. For me a 3/10. No fixing a weak story and the endless filler plus everything else on the list.
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Post by tacsear on Jun 19, 2017 11:38:47 GMT
If it's 50% off, I would say buy it but honestly I want people to buy the game because I feel cheated for paying the full price and I want to drag as many people as possible down with me Hey, at least I'm honest
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 19, 2017 11:41:47 GMT
When I see that someone is giving 9/10 or something similar to MEA, so what about the score for MET ? 15/10 ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:43:49 GMT
Still 9/10. The game hit the sweet spot for me, and the patches did not have impact on that.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 19, 2017 11:49:10 GMT
When I see that someone is giving 9/10 or something similar to MEA, so what about the score for MET ? 15/10 ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:51:38 GMT
When I see that someone is giving 9/10 or something similar to MEA, so what about the score for MET ? 15/10 ? ME1: 7/10, ME2 + ME3= 9/10, ME2 standalone 7/10, ME3 standalone 8/10
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Post by tacsear on Jun 19, 2017 11:52:09 GMT
When I see that someone is giving 9/10 or something similar to MEA, so what about the score for MET ? 15/10 ? Well andromeda doesn't deserve 9/10 but MET deserves 15/10 for sure
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