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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 1:34:42 GMT
I really am happy for you(and others) that you enjoyed it, but I THINK you might be in the minority here. Not according to user polls done on this forum, they are all generally positive. This place is an echo chamber of positive coverage of MEA. Not to say that everyone here likes MEA because there are many here who do not, but compared to many other places online, this and the subreddit seem to be the "safe haven" for positive/moderate MEA discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 1:34:46 GMT
I don't know how anyone can objectively score this game an 8 or 9. I do my best to objectively critique games based on a number of aspects. This game is average-bad in most of them. They do well in very little categories that I can justify any more than a 6 or 6.5/10 at best. I don't know, I guess subjectivity could be in people's opinions. I don't usually care what people score games, but for some reason this game...when people give it like a 9/10 I react like "are you nuts?" No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 19, 2017 1:35:05 GMT
Heh, according to this Razorfist guy he just blatantly ripped off Elric of Melniboné. The likes/dislikes are split! Opinions! Yup. I kinda lean towards agreeing with him, having read both series of books.
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Post by jeyl on Jun 19, 2017 1:37:02 GMT
Even if the additional animation, bug fixes and the male/male romance changes were astoundingly awesome, it would best bump my score from a 4.5 to 5.0. As of 1.08, nothing that has been worked on has changed my score. You see, the issues that I have with ME:A has more to do with it's premise, characterization and overall intent than animation and glitches. The premise of going to Andromeda has no hook outside of "because we can", the characterization is so simplified that there's no depth to any of the characters and the intent is all set-up and no pay off. It's like restoring a bad movie. It looks and sounds a lot better than it's previous releases, but that doesn't change my opinion that it's still a bad movie.
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Post by projectpatdc on Jun 19, 2017 1:38:54 GMT
It's $30 just buy the game. It's Mass Effect. You like the series enough to join the forum, there will be parts of the game that you'll enjoy.
There shouldn't be a ton of internal debate over $30. I think I spent $25 on my uber ride last night
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 1:40:42 GMT
The score of too little too late. After 70 hours of sp and 1600 APEX in mp, this game is getting traded in. Yeah, the game was really hard to finish for me.
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Post by warrior on Jun 19, 2017 1:43:05 GMT
I mean I think if I am trying to be as objective as possible -- like if I had never played a ME game -- I would say 7.5, but I love the Mass Effect universe a lot, which bumps it to 8 (good) instead of fair.
For reference here is how I would probably rate the others based solely on my enjoyment playing them:
ME 1: 9.5 ME 2: 10 ME 3: 9
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Post by alihou on Jun 19, 2017 1:44:06 GMT
I don't know how anyone can objectively score this game an 8 or 9. I do my best to objectively critique games based on a number of aspects. This game is average-bad in most of them. They do well in very little categories that I can justify any more than a 6 or 6.5/10 at best. I don't know, I guess subjectivity could be in people's opinions. I don't usually care what people score games, but for some reason this game...when people give it like a 9/10 I react like "are you nuts?" No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. I agree and also disagree, certain things are quantifiable: technical things can be measured, enough to the point where you can make a decent estimation. Also on subjective things, you can break them down to categories where you can make a good assertion based on your findings. With this game it really wasn't hard. If you singled out every category and broke them down intricately you can come up with many reasons that can validate your findings. If we can limit bias as much as we can, we can reach a near objective perspective. obviously it's not perfect, but we can be close. That's why a 9 or 9.5 is ridiculous sounding to me. There comes a point where even subjective opinion may sound ridiculous.
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Post by xassantex on Jun 19, 2017 1:46:57 GMT
I don't know how anyone can objectively score this game an 8 or 9. I do my best to objectively critique games based on a number of aspects. This game is average-bad in most of them. They do well in very little categories that I can justify any more than a 6 or 6.5/10 at best. I don't know, I guess subjectivity could be in people's opinions. I don't usually care what people score games, but for some reason this game...when people give it like a 9/10 I react like "are you nuts?" I wondered about how rating objectively a game works. You can do it on technical aspects i suppose : animations, bugs and all that jazz and then there is the writing which a professional writer could deconstruct in an analysis to then give an evaluation. i can do neither of those things, so my ratings will consist of how much i enjoy the game, an entirely subjective opinion but no less valid. So from a "hate it" to " love it with passion" , i'd simply say " i enjoy it ".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 1:47:42 GMT
No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. I agree and also disagree, certain things are quantifiable: technical things can be measured, enough to the point where you can make a decent estimation. Also on subjective things, you can break them down to categories where you can make a good assertion based on your findings. With this game it really wasn't hard. If you singled out every category and broke them down intricately you can come up with many reasons that can validate your findings. If we can limit bias as much as we can, we can reach a near objective perspective. obviously it's not perfect, but we can be close. That's why a 9 or 9.5 is ridiculous sounding to me. There comes a point where even subjective opinion may sound ridiculous. Yes, some things are quantifiable. Witcher 3 has X fetch quests, ME:A has X fetch quests... but the moment you say, I'm ranking Witcher 3 higher than ME:A because "I like" the number of fetch quests it has better... the estimation becomes subjective. All rankings are subjective, period. There is no getting around that. It doesn't matter how many people might agree or disagree with it... it is still an opinion. If you're going to try to validate your opinion to me.... then show your math. What have you quantified and allow me to form my own opinion as to whether or not that's better or worse than another game... that is, express that without telling me that you "like" this over that.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 19, 2017 2:04:49 GMT
Well having not played the game since early to mid April I am feeling a lot better about it now than I was even just two weeks ago. My initial score was about an 80. Right now it is closer to an 85. Yes the patch has helped but so has a personal attitude adjustment. Instead of chasing every little quest and task that pops up I only do the ones I want to do (a little trick that also helps with DAI playthroughs). Also I stopped lamenting about how MEA is not the MET and guess what it opened up the game and made it a lot more fun. If anything the patch has helped smooth out the game but it is still the same overall game as before, I just woke up and opened up my mind in the past week or so.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 19, 2017 2:42:15 GMT
I don't know how anyone can objectively score this game an 8 or 9. I do my best to objectively critique games based on a number of aspects. This game is average-bad in most of them. They do well in very little categories that I can justify any more than a 6 or 6.5/10 at best. I don't know, I guess subjectivity could be in people's opinions. I don't usually care what people score games, but for some reason this game...when people give it like a 9/10 I react like "are you nuts?" No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. What if a game is legitimately bad? Like Superman 64? Would you say that subjectively it could be a good game in someone’s eyes? If someone told you Superman 64 is amazing! - would you be like, “well...yea, I guess subjectively it is amazing if you say so?” - despite all of its obvious flaws? Or are you more likely to question their sanity? That’s how i look at people that rave about Andromeda and give it 9 and 10/10.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 19, 2017 2:43:51 GMT
No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. What if a game is legitimately bad? Like Superman 64? Would you say that subjectively it could be a good game in someone’s eyes? If someone told you Superman 64 is amazing! - would you be like, “well...yea, I guess subjectively it is amazing if you say so?” - despite all of its obvious flaws? Or are you more likely to question their sanity? That’s how i look at people that rave about Andromeda and give it 9 and 10/10. Who gives a fuck if someone likes Superman 64? That's their business.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 2:51:54 GMT
No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. What if a game is legitimately bad? Like Superman 64? Would you say that subjectively it could be a good game in someone’s eyes? If someone told you Superman 64 is amazing! - would you be like, “well...yea, I guess subjectively it is amazing if you say so?” - despite all of its obvious flaws? Or are you more likely to question their sanity? That’s how i look at people that rave about Andromeda and give it 9 and 10/10. i will admit that anyone who gives the game lower then a 70 i suspect them of having an agenda.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 3:03:14 GMT
What if a game is legitimately bad? Like Superman 64? Would you say that subjectively it could be a good game in someone’s eyes? If someone told you Superman 64 is amazing! - would you be like, “well...yea, I guess subjectively it is amazing if you say so?” - despite all of its obvious flaws? Or are you more likely to question their sanity? That’s how i look at people that rave about Andromeda and give it 9 and 10/10. i will admit that anyone who gives the game lower then a 70 i suspect them of having an agenda. Or perhaps they just feel the game isn't worthy of a score over 70% People like you just cannot fathom the idea that perhaps MEA wasn't a really good game to many people and so in order to justify all the backlash, you create a strawman relating to the only reason why MEA is bashed is because people want to take down Bioware or EA.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 19, 2017 3:03:31 GMT
I only played Witcher 3 and how does the creator calling someone a retard make the game worse. And someone at Bioware made racist post about white people and I like MEA. Oh, I'm sorry, but if the creator calls you a retard and not a true fan because your only investment in the universe doesn't come from his books, that really smells of bullshit. And I know about Heir, he didn't make shit. Hmm. Wonder when the karma is hitting on that one. Did you visit your Doctor? Because it sounds like you're butthurt. OT, probably an 8, above ME1, under the rest.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 3:08:07 GMT
i will admit that anyone who gives the game lower then a 70 i suspect them of having an agenda. Or perhaps they just feel the game isn't worthy of a score over 70% not really... I recognize such thoughts are biased silly and wrong... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Hell even if their opinion is driven by an agenda that's not exactly wrong and they are still entitled to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 3:08:37 GMT
No one can... all rankings, high or low, are by definition subjective... based on the personal tastes of the person doing the ranking. What if a game is legitimately bad? Like Superman 64? Would you say that subjectively it could be a good game in someone’s eyes? If someone told you Superman 64 is amazing! - would you be like, “well...yea, I guess subjectively it is amazing if you say so?” - despite all of its obvious flaws? Or are you more likely to question their sanity? That’s how i look at people that rave about Andromeda and give it 9 and 10/10. Yes, it could be subjectively good in someone's eyes and no, they don't have to be insane. That you think they are insane for disagreeing with you or not insane for agreeing with is still your opinion... it's still subjective. My opinion of you (subjective, of course) is that you waste waaay too much energy trying to insist that everyone agree with you. You've called me insecure... but I think you're the insecure one in that you're afraid to stand alone and apart from the crowd in your opinions. Also, consider that there are lots of sane people out there in the world who think we're all insane for liking video games at all.
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 19, 2017 3:11:08 GMT
8/10.
I had given 7/10 before patch 1.08 and all the patches have improved visuals and animations a lot, besides some technical problems, of course.
But patch 1.08 was basically a miracle.
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Post by tacsear on Jun 19, 2017 3:17:17 GMT
If it's 50% off, I would say buy it but honestly I want people to buy the game because I feel cheated for paying the full price and I want to drag as many people as possible down with me
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 19, 2017 3:25:03 GMT
Or perhaps they just feel the game isn't worthy of a score over 70% not really... I recognize such thoughts are biased silly and wrong... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Hell even if their opinion is driven by an agenda that's not exactly wrong and they are still entitled to it. Oh I get it. It is biased silly and wrong because YOU just happen to have a really favorable view of MEA and whenever someone comes that has an exact opposite opinion than you of the game, instead of just accepting it as their opinion and that perhaps the game isn't enjoyed by everyone, you create a mental strawman that is an "agenda". That way you can goto sleep at night knowing that all the hate for MEA comes from people wanting to take down Bioware or the ME brand rather than people genuinely not really fond of the game which is very possible. Some people may have played Breath of Wild and Horizon which is critically praised by a majority and then when they pop in MEA, to them the quality drops dramatically and I am not just talking about animations but things like the way the open world was executed, side missions, narrative etc. All trolls hate MEA.......but not all MEA haters are trolls with an agenda.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 3:26:20 GMT
I mean seriously there are only two games in history that I'd give under a 7. And one of them is such garbage. TERRIBLE combat. TERRIBLE story. It utterly and completely raped the lore of the universe it was in and had terrible QTE nonsense driven boss fights. The only thing redeemable about it is that it had two kind of good characters. But just horrible horrible garbage. So people say MEA is down there with that...five out of ten...zero out of ten. It just blows my mind.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 19, 2017 3:26:36 GMT
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 3:28:02 GMT
not really... I recognize such thoughts are biased silly and wrong... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Hell even if their opinion is driven by an agenda that's not exactly wrong and they are still entitled to it. Oh I get it. It is biased silly and wrong because YOU just happen to have a really favorable view of MEA and whenever someone comes that has an exact opposite opinion than you of the game, instead of just accepting it as their opinion and that perhaps the game isn't enjoyed by everyone, you create a mental strawman that is an "agenda". That way you can goto sleep at night knowing that all the hate for MEA comes from people wanting to take down Bioware or the ME brand rather than people genuinely not really fond of the game which is very possible. Some people may have played Breath of Wild and Horizon which is critically praised by a majority and then when they pop in MEA, to them the quality drops dramatically and I am not just talking about animations but things like the way the open world was executed, side missions, narrative etc. All trolls hate MEA.......but not all MEA haters are trolls with an agenda. you miss my point. Probably my fault. But i believe MY thoughts are biased and silly and wrong for thinking people have an agenda. And as i said i don't care. Agenda away.
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