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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:11:40 GMT
From behind your keyboard. Hi, my name's Lawfare. I don't think you know what my name means. You act like I should care what it means. This might shock you but I really don't.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 26, 2017 17:11:52 GMT
I still secretly hope they're poison glands or where asari brains are or something. Just because modified sweat glands that secrete fatty liquid for the nourishment of young, let alone those inflated with additional fat to be used as a sexual display, doesn't seem like it'd be a super common adaptation. But I've said a few words about Bioware's biology in the past, and... Well, it's just one of those things in fiction. Yes, trying to place logical/biological/scientific consistency to the majority of Bioware game elements (including the Asari) is a fool's errand. Still there is pseudoscience and true science way more than other games. i really appreciate this. quantum entaglement communication is a thing. they have done "their" research and even in andromeda there are lots of things that show this.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:15:17 GMT
Yes, trying to place logical/biological/scientific consistency to the majority of Bioware game elements (including the Asari) is a fool's errand. Still there is pseudoscience and true science way more than other games. i really appreciate this. quantum entaglement communication is a thing. they have done "their" research and even in andromeda there are lots of things that show this. I will be honest when it comes to sci fi if you throw me some cool sounding techno babble I will go along with it. I am not picky.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 26, 2017 17:17:48 GMT
What you mean by "gender" is better described as gender stereotypes. I was the biggest tomboy in my childhood/teens, but now I'm more girly - that doesn't mean that I used to be a boy but now became a girl. In a culture where man is seen as the default breadwinner, a stay-at-home-dad would still be seen as a man. I agree with bizantura about the western society - it's all about the feels and being special. youis my point. It's a matter of choice. Most issue people have Transgender is based on gender stereotypes. It's not about feeling special(though at it's worst and it's extremestill people would want it to be that way.) It's about feeling safe being who you. You as a woman has no fear of being or dressing feminine with no real fear of major attack or assult. But if some one born male tries it the have to really watch their back we they do so. Just to be clear, I wasn't implying that trans people just want to feel special, I was talking more about the whole western sjw crowd. There are people with gender dysphoria who transition because they feel wrong in the body they're born with, and then there are tumblr snowflakes who insist that there are 70 genders and stuff like that - this is what I meant with "feels and being special". I'm cool with people doing what they want with their appearance, but I have a problem with people claiming to be "trans" just because they like wearing mildly androgynous clothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 17:18:01 GMT
Hi, my name's Lawfare. I don't think you know what my name means. You act like I should care what it means. This might shock you but I really don't. No, I did something else to you. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to me.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
You act like I should care what it means. This might shock you but I really don't. No, I did something else to you. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to me. If it was irrelevant to you then you would not have brought it up.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 26, 2017 17:22:11 GMT
Still there is pseudoscience and true science way more than other games. i really appreciate this. quantum entaglement communication is a thing. they have done "their" research and even in andromeda there are lots of things that show this. I will be honest when it comes to sci fi if you throw me some cool sounding techno babble I will go along with it. I am not picky. me too! mass effect is untopable in this department!
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 17:22:17 GMT
Yes, trying to place logical/biological/scientific consistency to the majority of Bioware game elements (including the Asari) is a fool's errand. Still there is pseudoscience and true science way more than other games. i really appreciate this. quantum entaglement communication is a thing. they have done "their" research and even in andromeda there are lots of things that show this. I agree, but I was speaking to consistency, not making a claim that there was absolutely zero real science involved in the Mass Effect story. Speaking to the amount of real science, there isn't much, which would be fine if they were a lot more consistent... for my tastes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 17:23:14 GMT
No, I did something else to you. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to me. If it was irrelevant to you then you would not have brought it up. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 26, 2017 17:25:26 GMT
Still there is pseudoscience and true science way more than other games. i really appreciate this. quantum entaglement communication is a thing. they have done "their" research and even in andromeda there are lots of things that show this. I agree, but I was speaking to consistency, not making a claim that there was absolutely zero real science involved in the Mass Effect story. Speaking to the amount of real science, there isn't much, which would be fine if they were a lot more consistent... for my tastes. an example of inconsistency?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:26:21 GMT
If it was irrelevant to you then you would not have brought it up. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. Oh please. He was a chump compared to the one in my avatar.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 17:33:23 GMT
I agree, but I was speaking to consistency, not making a claim that there was absolutely zero real science involved in the Mass Effect story. Speaking to the amount of real science, there isn't much, which would be fine if they were a lot more consistent... for my tastes. an example of inconsistency? ME1 established "realistic/futuristic" personal protection/armor/enviro-suits. ME2 and beyond replaced that with iconic looks and breather masks.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 26, 2017 17:36:03 GMT
an example of inconsistency? ME1 established "realistic/futuristic" personal protection/armor/enviro-suits. ME2 and beyond replaced that with iconic looks and breather masks. Haha yes!! i remember Jack/Liara with her breather mask in instant death enviroments. Such a badass! I was bothered by it but i got over it.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 17:37:11 GMT
ME1 established "realistic/futuristic" personal protection/armor/enviro-suits. ME2 and beyond replaced that with iconic looks and breather masks. Haha yes!! i remember Jack/Liara with her breather mask in instant death enviroments. Such a badass! I was bothered by it but i got over it. I enjoy the entire series, but it is a very mild irritant.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 26, 2017 17:37:24 GMT
no. Gender roles and conspet is a cultural thing not a genie consept. That means it's subjective.not every culture has the same definition on what actions makes a man a man and a woman a woman. Sex and gender are not the samething.Added there us no issue with people being what ever gender they want. No one is being hurt by being a different gender then there sex. Nope. sorry but you're wrong. It's Been long been proven that gender is not genetic, it's cultural
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 26, 2017 17:39:12 GMT
Haha yes!! i remember Jack/Liara with her breather mask in instant death enviroments. Such a badass! I was bothered by it but i got over it. I enjoy the entire series, but it is a very mild irritant. In andromeda i play with helmets on except inematic dialogues. i prefer it. it also looks cooler .
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 17:40:28 GMT
sorry but you're wrong. It's Been long been proven that gender is not genetic, it's culturalThere's too much evidence that this is not the case, as provided in this video, and more I can link. But that's probably more on-topic for the Political thread.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 26, 2017 17:40:34 GMT
youis my point. It's a matter of choice. Most issue people have Transgender is based on gender stereotypes. It's not about feeling special(though at it's worst and it's extremestill people would want it to be that way.) It's about feeling safe being who you. You as a woman has no fear of being or dressing feminine with no real fear of major attack or assult. But if some one born male tries it the have to really watch their back we they do so. Just to be clear, I wasn't implying that trans people just want to feel special, I was talking more about the whole western sjw crowd. There are people with gender dysphoria who transition because they feel wrong in the body they're born with, and then there are tumblr snowflakes who insist that there are 70 genders and stuff like that - this is what I meant with "feels and being special". I'm cool with people doing what they want with their appearance, but I have a problem with people claiming to be "trans" just because they like wearing mildly androgynous clothing. that's just the horrors you find in Tumblr and safe spaces. I do agree the exist but bw is not a company about foring these consept down our throats bw has aways been pro lgbt.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:46:53 GMT
an example of inconsistency? ME1 established "realistic/futuristic" personal protection/armor/enviro-suits. ME2 and beyond replaced that with iconic looks and breather masks. I will admit I was never a fan of the breather mask thing and there is a reason I avoided taking squadmates like Miranda or Jack on the collector ship (though Jack does say some funny crap on that mission). It's weird because as the trilogy progressed Shepard kept getting better armor options but they were cut out for squad after ME 1 even though I am sure at least 80 percent of the fanbase wanted them back. ME 3 did manage to at least properly armor up squadmates even if we couldn't customize them (outside of picking which preset armor appearance we wanted for them).
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 26, 2017 17:51:58 GMT
I enjoy the entire series, but it is a very mild irritant. In andromeda i play with helmets on except inematic dialogues. i prefer it. it also looks cooler . It's weird in the trilogy I preferred helmets off (outside of hazardous environments) but in Andromeda I prefer helmets on. Then again in the trilogy I got cool visor options.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 17:55:04 GMT
In andromeda i play with helmets on except inematic dialogues. i prefer it. it also looks cooler . It's weird in the trilogy I preferred helmets off (outside of hazardous environments) but in Andromeda I prefer helmets on. Then again in the trilogy I got cool visor options. I agree and as an example, they should have made the protag's N7 helmet as open faced as Cora's.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 26, 2017 17:58:40 GMT
You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. Oh please. He was a chump compared to the one in my avatar. Nah most bad ass guy is right here 😂
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Post by alihou on Jun 26, 2017 18:22:20 GMT
Oh its there. Why bother denying it? The only one that annoys me is the way the female characters turned out, other than that I don't mind what they included in the game. Denying it seems a little silly though. I personally don't mind that the females aren't very attractive they not ugly ( okay vetra is) but just normal looking which is fine by me. The only times Bioware ever annoyed me was with Krem (or Kram I don't remember) and Dorian side quest. I don't care that Dorian is gay but they shouldn't have made his side quest a therapy session you, him and his father that was basically "you didn't love me cause am gay". Like out of all the shit they could have done they pick that. Dorian's quest had political implications for Tevinter and line of succession within his family. The gay aspect was handled well, because it wasn't the homosexuality that was the only part. They added to it a bit more than that, which is why I liked his quest. It had plot relevant implications, so I actually found his arc intriguing. Hainly Abrams being trans was handled terribly because there was no point in addressing it. It served no purpose and wasn't relevant at all.
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I personally don't mind that the females aren't very attractive they not ugly ( okay vetra is) but just normal looking which is fine by me. The only times Bioware ever annoyed me was with Krem (or Kram I don't remember) and Dorian side quest. I don't care that Dorian is gay but they shouldn't have made his side quest a therapy session you, him and his father that was basically "you didn't love me cause am gay". Like out of all the shit they could have done they pick that. Dorian's quest had political implications for Tevinter and line of succession within his family. The gay aspect was handled well, because it wasn't the homosexuality that was the only part. They added to it a bit more than that, which is why I liked his quest. It had plot relevant implications, so I actually found his arc intriguing. Hainly Abrams being trans was handled terribly because there was no point in addressing it. It served no purpose and wasn't relevant at all. It was meant to be Hainly's reason for coming to Andromeda, a question Ryder asks everyone, with some serious, deep or funny answers from all the NPC's you meet.
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Post by kino on Jun 26, 2017 18:59:26 GMT
I personally don't mind that the females aren't very attractive they not ugly ( okay vetra is) but just normal looking which is fine by me. The only times Bioware ever annoyed me was with Krem (or Kram I don't remember) and Dorian side quest. I don't care that Dorian is gay but they shouldn't have made his side quest a therapy session you, him and his father that was basically "you didn't love me cause am gay". Like out of all the shit they could have done they pick that. Dorian's quest had political implications for Tevinter and line of succession within his family. The gay aspect was handled well, because it wasn't the homosexuality that was the only part. They added to it a bit more than that, which is why I liked his quest. It had plot relevant implications, so I actually found his arc intriguing. Hainly Abrams being trans was handled terribly because there was no point in addressing it. It served no purpose and wasn't relevant at all. I don't know. I have some friends for whom Abrams story touched a chord. It resonated with their own lives. I don't have a dog in the fight, personally, but I know her story meant something to them. Could it have been handled a little more elegantly? Sure. But the fact that the character is there, in the story, is important to them. In the end that's what really mattered to me about it. That it gave some people I know a vested interest in the game, much like Dorian's story did in DAI.
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