I fail to see how this game is "sjw propoganda"

I'd honestly agree with you if the fault was down to poor writing but it's not.....across the board you see generic character designs,voice acting,direction and overall lack of story substance......it's all very shallow.

I'm sorry but I'm not gay......so I don't know why gay gamers are offended.......so if you have the time,educated me,why are they offended?

I'm not gay either, but it only takes a little bit of empathy along the lines of walking a mile in the other's shoes to notice offense. I took Gil to be an anti gay cardboard on my first playthrough and although I have no horse in the race, I hated him for that.

Derp brigade "herr derr herr derr empathy is a weakness herr derr"

There was an autistic person in Overlord. In MEA, Knight's son has some disability. There is some representation for disabled people in video games. Not saying it can't get better, but I'm not sure how many disabled characters people expect to see in action/shooter games.

I don't see anything wrong with white male protagonists, personally, some of my favourite games had white male leads (Deus Ex HR and MD, Hitman). It's pretty rare when I see my own culture represented well in video games, but I don't care as long as it's not blatantly disrespectful (with some exceptions) and if the game is otherwise well-made. I do agree that more diversity is always nice (unless it's forced), but I just don't understand people who say they can't enjoy a video game unless the protagonist is of this race or that gender. I'm a white woman, but I enjoyed the hell out of The Walking Dead games where the protagonists were black guy, a young black girl and a latino, and the cast itself was very diverse. They even snuck in a gay couple and a character with Ambiguous Disorder without making it seem out of place in the setting. If it's so important for some people to only play as self-inserts, why not just stick to Sims?

I don't think most people are complaining about the departure from normal, necessarily. I haven't seen many complaints about protagonists being anything other than white males. I think what many anti-sjws don't like is when the games have some elements that serve no purpose other than to pander to sjws *cough*asaripronounretcon*cough*. I'm all for representation if it's done well and isn't out-of-place in the game's setting, but I don't find it as important as the game as a whole being well written and fun.

As to developers - I seriously doubt that game companies look at the skin color or gender when they're hiring.

So no sources..?

dude it was just one character. It not like every different race,gendered, or sexuality character went on about how unique and special they are.

There should be chase sequence, and suddenly a team of people in wheelchairs racing should come out of nowhere. 

Yeah, I knew ahead of time, but only because I'm a spoiler fiend that looks to find out as much about the characters from each game well before playing. The one and only hint you may actually get that he is probably gay, as far as I can tell, is when he talks about Jill and her reproduction program, though one could just as well assume that he's just not interested because he's not fond of responsibility or something. I wasn't about to use the heart dialogue on the git with the surfing cowlick thing on his forehead.

that's the thing with complaint about gil that I don't get. You have nothing that show or tell that he is gay unlike cortez. And like cortez if you cut the detail of then being gay nothing changes about their character. They are treated and written like normal people. Their sexuality is near forgetable yet people complain about them anyway. It make no sense.

Well, after a lot of pages, I'd like to point some things

About the accusation that Bioware makes the character gender or sexuality their "primary" trait, I don't actually agree with that. I'm sure they think "hey, we have to include gay/bi characters", but including these characters IS NOT A BAD THING. First, inclusion is good. It's good for a game to represent all kinds of people and not just white straight men. If you want white straight men games, 90% of games, movies and everything out there is made for you, why is it so offensive that a few games include women in position of power or gay people. And second, Bioware is a company, and a company has to be aware of its' public. In the book "spreadable media", Henry Jenkins (and others) talk about the importance of marginalized publics. For example, most gamers are white young straight guys, but there are also girls and gay people, so why Bioware shouldn't pay attention to them? They do, and that doesn't mean they don't care about their "main" public", it means that they're trying to achieve a larger scale, which is good for them, as a company, and good for the public too. And that's one of the reasons of why Mass Effect and Dragon Age keep being successful (despite being good franchises of course).

You might say that results in poorly written characters, but I don't think that's the point. There are a lot of bad straight characters on Bioware's games, and that's not their sexuality to fault. Bad writing happens.

Plus, I don't mind that they explore these "oppressed" traits. Being gay in medieval times (like Dorian) surely was hard, so I don't see why they couldn't explore that. It's realistic and being gay in an oppressive society surely is one of the factors that affect your personality.

And Bioware also likes to play with stereotypes. For example, Vivienne is a black mage woman. She should be the "oppressed", right? But she's actually the most conservative character of DA:I.

And even with Bioware doing minor things, people complain a lot. I've seen a lot of people complaining about Sera being "ugly". Seriously, there are a lot of beautiful women in Inquisition, but if they find ONE that they think is ugly, they rant like hell. And why's that? Because people just can't give up not even an inch of their privilege. People accuse SJWs of being "ranting about everything" but actually these conservative people are the biggest ranters of all.

How many games you played as a woman being the protagonist? And even when the woman was the main protagonist, the most famous one they couldn't help but sexualize her a lot (Lara Croft had her breasts increased just to please the male public)
And then there's always the argument: "But hey, there's Kratos and 437894724 characters with muscles, aren't they sexualized and objetified?". And I ask you: who is Kratos made for? Who would be pissed off if Kratos wasn't all muscles: women gamers or men? So comparing these two "sexualizations" is just not possible

It's a reality, guys: Black people exist, women exist, gay people exist, a lot of different people exist, if you just leave your bubble a little you can see that a lot of people exist, and including them on games, movies, etc, is a GOOD thing.


That's called being progressive, not being SJW. You better get used to it.

It's not sjw propaganda... But it has more elements of sjw'ing than most games.

Ah, this is one of the things I wanted to say and I forgot, thanks for reminding me (even accidentaly)

I study social representations, and there is NO WAY any fiction world/characters you create won't have part of your culture, your political views, etc. It's absolutely impossible.