I fail to see how this game is "sjw propoganda"

One last stab before the thread gets locked.....

Andromeda has some dark and interesting quests,dealing with subjects like.....

Growing weed....
Cannibals....
Inter species sex....
Murder/crime...

My issue is with the way it's all handled,it's generic and avoids all the substance needed to address such subject matter.....so why go generic?

Having played the game from start to be finish I personally didn't see any so called SJW propaganda at all......however the SJW mentality (to me) would explain why the game is so generic,the SJW mentality is about equality and fair representation for all.....and Andromeda mimics this mentality perfectly.

For me,I don't really care about gay,black,drug etc issues in general,I'm interested in quality writing and direction....making me very inclusive as long as the subject matter is handled well.The way I see it,the SJW mentality presents far to many restrictions and limitations in an attempt to not offend or fairly represent.This in turn starts to dictate creativity and design choices......which inevitability results with "play it safe" generic content.

My concern is with Biowares ability to produce narrative with substance,sticking gay,straight labels on people isn't really good enough,their generic approach to content demeans every thing Bioware is known for,making Andromeda a mighty step backwards in terms of quality.

At the end of the day,Andromeda is done,no debate will change it but going forward I hope EA/Bioware learns from Andromeda......seeing A possible Dragon Age affected by the same creative limitations would be the last and final nail in the coffin for Bioware (for me).

But when adding a trans background character suddenly we need to hold them to such a high standard of writing? Hes no different than than other background characters, most people wouldnt even remember his name. 

"Andromeda is a powerful example of propaganda art, and a true masterpiece of the Social Realism revival trend in the first quarter of the twenty-first century. It critically examined the cultural biases of the second decade of that troubled times, mixing the imitation of the late twentieth century cinema dialogue with the character background design inspired by the hardworking IT professionals from the underprivileged backgrounds. Of particular note is the satirical examination of the wet dreams of the society of the day. As you emerge yourself in Andromeda, you are bound to notice tentative integration of the expanded sexuality understanding that was a controversial cultural idea at the time..."

One last stab before the thread gets locked.....

Andromeda has some dark and interesting quests,dealing with subjects like.....

Growing weed....
Cannibals....
Inter species sex....
Murder/crime...

My issue is with the way it's all handled,it's generic and avoids all the substance needed to address such subject matter.....so why go generic?

90s kids as a group said "gay" pejoratively until we grew some brains & hearts (e.g. "that's so gay"). Maybe we were the last gen to consistently do that (don't know kids today, really, because I have none).

90s kids as a group said "gay" pejoratively until we grew some brains & hearts (e.g. "that's so gay"). Maybe we were the last gen to consistently do that (don't know kids today, really, because I have none).

I don't even know if it is a good idea to start this thread.  It probably isn't in all honesty but of all the criticisms leveled at this game (some valid, some not so much) this has to be the single dumbest simply because it isn't in the actual game itself or at least not anything really noticable.   Yet the derp brigade insists that there is some sort of "sjw conspiracy" going on with this game yet they never offer proof to back their crap up. Usually it is something like "herr derr I don't like how default Sara looks" or "the cc was deliberately designed to stop me from making a hot chick" or some other dumb crap like that.  I am generally not a fan of sjws but I suspect some of these idiots have a much broader definition of "sjw" than I do.  Fortuately it isn't as bad  here as even those that don't like the game usually don't fall back on the "it's sjw" routine (though they do pop up once in a while).   Yet we have all run across these idiots in different parts of the internet.  Youtube for example is infested with them.  What I want to know where is the damn actual proof that this game in and of itself is "sjw propoganda".

I grew up being biased against LGBT people. It was the 70ies and while we never outirght hated them, we found them good for a laugh. One would think, literally 40 years later, with all that has happened in between, people would have grown up to perceive LGBT people as people and not abominations or threats to their own red blooded malehood. But no, the internet and social media has just opened up new avenues to hate against "the other".

I still maintain that Andromeda features the single worst writing of any Bioware game. I often mentioned Gil, whom I perceive to be a joke at the expense of gay people and ultimately an insult to them. Because he's just a checklist being ticked off instead of a real character. At least when it comes to him being gay. His banter and frenmity with Kallo are exempt from that judgment.

1. It's not good idea especially when you are so biased.

2. It is not clear if changes in the series are made to affect players or to match the market. But they are there. Gender roles are changing and media and entertainment business made major impact. (is it coincident that way more left movement people are there? well not statistical proof but we are not dumb kids too)

3. SJW are just a label, probably used not so accurately everytime. People from real SJW community usually aren't very smart and usually in useless studies which will never provide them normal income, so they just blame anyone who has something better. SJW are one of the most racist and sexist groups I've ever seen (from those who aren't banned officially).

People from real SJW community usually aren't very smart and usually in useless studies which will never provide them normal income, so they just blame anyone who has something better. SJW are one of the most racist and sexist groups I've ever seen (from those who aren't banned officially).

I grew up barely having an inkling of what happens at all, let alone variations. My sex-ed was basically contained in a sentence of "for a man it's basically like needing to pee" . I have to credit my mother with finding a 100% successful propaganda slogan for pro-abstinence. I do not get the chronic aversion to happiness propagated by the information boom. 

Gil gives me an impression of material being reducted from romance. Just like Cora and Liam, the character itself is scetched well, but fits badly in a video game. His overall inability to process and respect others'  feelings, lack of decorum, chronic workaholism, convoluted friendship that mixes camaraderie and primal sex radar that gets overridden by cultural bias, it's all very good, all very real, and puts him well ahead of many a simplistic Mary-Sue with a tragic background in heaps that we get in Bio games. But translating his spontaneity and outbursts of self-expression in romantic context backfired, because, at least to me, his romance ended up disjointed. The writing is good and consistent overall imo, except the two actual romantic scenes and the procreation theme that became too central due to the overall lack of content and was not a game one material to start with. 

This however has has no relevance to this thread, if this thread has relevance to anything but a comment on the times and mores, and overall ineptitude of humanity in using their best assets.