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Post by abaris on Jun 29, 2017 18:02:22 GMT
And that raises the question what news this latest months IS credible. And on top of this, who go as far as this just to damage Bioware and ME:A? I mean - What drives that guy/guys/gals/whatever.. As a side note - good work. The right person at the right place yes? If you're implying the Kotaku article, they spoke of Bioware sources. Not of outsiders or third parties. Think of that guy what you want, but his article isn't unusual in any way. In any case, he would have done what I have done before even talking to them. I originally fell for the hoax also. But one look at their fake page and I noticed the absence of the Bioware logo, and I'm not a gaming journalist but someone who works in close relations to advertising and PR. That's when I started digging and 20 minutes later I was able to debunk the whole scheme. The journalist may not be to everyone's liking, but he reports for quite some time now. He would have gone through the same motions. It's the basics of basics if you feel like quoting someone. To check if they're even remotely legit. Apart from the fact that the press and PR departments of Bioware and/or EA would have an easy time to debunk fake news. They did it today, so why wouldn't they have done it in the past?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:02:22 GMT
Well he published the article about the troubled development of the game, and used sources related to the problems that went on with changing leadership, changing direction, etc. So if Sinclair Networks didn't actually work on the game, there's no way they could be his source about problems during development. But did they knew at that moment Sinclair Networks was not working on the game? We all just found out today. What is it WAS their source, but they did not checked it out? Not saying that this happened, only that it is a possibility. Even this looked legit. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 18:03:02 GMT
Whatever they are planning, that hoax and internet reaction to it should let them think twice. People can disagree about many different things, but i think that everyone involved in this and other discussions is still supporting MEA - all others already left BSN. So internet reaction is only authentic if it supports your side? No, i didn't said that. I just said that we can have different opinions and point of views, but we still want what's the best for MEA. Internet reaction in this case is just showing, that people still care and still want MORE MEA, in any form - DLC, expansion pack or another installment.
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Post by abaris on Jun 29, 2017 18:05:03 GMT
But did they knew at that moment Sinclair Networks was not working on the game? We all just found out today. What is it WAS their source, but they did not checked it out? Not saying that this happened, only that it is a possibility. Again, offer them at least the courtesy of knowing the basics of their job. Noone - absolutely noone in the media business - would take anything at face value without at least checking if their sources actually exist. Two calls, a look at a phonebook. That's all it took.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:06:09 GMT
This whole hoax looks a bit like a personal thing - maybe some angry Bioware ex-employee or someone recently moved/fired to less important projects ? I just really don't see that someone put so much effort on it just for "fun". Revenge - maybe, fun ? I don't believe in that. Apparently, revenge IS fun for some people. Thats the ugly side of the internet for you. People are dicks.
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Post by jclosed on Jun 29, 2017 18:07:14 GMT
But did they knew at that moment Sinclair Networks was not working on the game? We all just found out today. What is it WAS their source, but they did not checked it out? Not saying that this happened, only that it is a possibility. Even this looked legit. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/Yep it does. Hmm - I think I need some time to let it sink in. And coffee, Lot's of it I am afraid...
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 29, 2017 18:09:16 GMT
It's been a long day. People honestly took differing views, we're not going to beat them up about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:09:18 GMT
Apparently, revenge IS fun for some people. Thats the ugly side of the internet for you. People are dicks. Wouldn't be surprised if they were former BW employees that did this. Legit since they did work at BW, fake for the stuff they claimed they saw/heard.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:11:21 GMT
It's been a long day. People honestly took differing views, we're not going to beat them up about that. Let's face it. We were all fooled, so now we don't know what's what lol
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 29, 2017 18:12:07 GMT
To be fair. I'm going to give anthem a chance. Me too. YouTube won't. I already see that. EA's marketing and PR support is "merde." I've been saying that for years. I still love the happy dance from Suikoden. That was too funny to ignore. To the developers at BioWare Edmonton: Just three words: Bacon Cheesecake Brownies (per artist KaiserShep) The ingredients are a little expensive in large quantities. I budgeted some money for this as part of the Frostbite rig that I'm building. #soon
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:12:11 GMT
Apparently, revenge IS fun for some people. Thats the ugly side of the internet for you. People are dicks. Yep I agree. Some ´ fans ´ on this forum are evidence enough. And this whole shitshow with Sinclair trolls only proves that there is an organised and systematic effort to sink MEA, or even Anthem. I mean, seriously? That game is not even released yet and they already attempt to start hate train against it. Who the hell is behind this?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:14:44 GMT
Thats the ugly side of the internet for you. People are dicks. Wouldn't be surprised if they were former BW employees that did this. Legit since they did work at BW, fake for the stuff they claimed they saw/heard. There seem like there was a lot of holes in the kotaku story if I got to be honest. The whole thing of starting work on the sequel to andromeda after the game had barely come out seemed iffy at best. Work on DA4 has only started now two years after the game came out. The internal drama both studios fighting. Anthem killing off Mass Effect. Seems like drama for the sake of drama. And you know for such a hated game people sure like talking about it a lot
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 29, 2017 18:14:45 GMT
For the interested readers: If you really want to dig a bit deeper www.ebr.org/index.php/information-distributors/ are providers for company registry information in Europe. Some offer EU-wide information. Usually registration is required, but simple search for an entity usually comes at no cost. Alternatively many countries require companies to disclose or shelve financial information publicly. No entry - no legal entity. Since registries are fancy for tax authorities I assume most countries feature something like that. Let's see what Canada has: Oha, they haven't yet finished online registry database, but maybe it'll do. What has Quebec on "Bioware": www.registreentreprises.gouv.qc.ca/en/consulter/rechercher/default.aspx? Huh, through all der French it appear that "Bioware" isn't actually a company - it's rather a "wordmark" (brand) for EA Canada.
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Post by Rivercurse on Jun 29, 2017 18:16:18 GMT
So, that Samhain44 character, has he been vindicated? Because he still seems like a prime suspect to me from the skim reading i've done in this thread.
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Post by cypherj on Jun 29, 2017 18:17:10 GMT
Well he published the article about the troubled development of the game, and used sources related to the problems that went on with changing leadership, changing direction, etc. So if Sinclair Networks didn't actually work on the game, there's no way they could be his source about problems during development. But did they knew at that moment Sinclair Networks was not working on the game? We all just found out today. What is it WAS their source, but they did not checked it out? Not saying that this happened, only that it is a possibility. How would they have known any details if they didn't work on the game. The thing that is funny about Kotaku is that when the article about the hiatus came out everyone called him a hack, hasn't been trustworthy in the past, etc. But then when he put out the article about the troubled development everyone was saying, oh, well the game only had 18 months development, this explains a lot, and generally accepted that. Even though the sources for both stories would have been the same. He also talked about how his source in that office said that cubicals were mostly empty, and things pertaining to that particular office. How would a company said to be based in Austria be the source for goings on in an office in Canada. There's no way they could be his source. Plus he's put out articles about Bioware games in the past before Andromeda.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 29, 2017 18:17:44 GMT
To be fair. I'm going to give anthem a chance. Me too. YouTube won't. I already see that. EA's marketing and PR support is "merde." I've been saying that for years. I still love the happy dance from Suikoden. That was too funny to ignore. To the developers at BioWare Edmonton: Just three words: Bacon Cheesecake Brownies (per artist KaiserShep) The ingredients are a little expensive in large quantities. I budgeted some money for this as part of the Frostbite rig that I'm building. #soon That was a good dance
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:17:47 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if they were former BW employees that did this. Legit since they did work at BW, fake for the stuff they claimed they saw/heard. There seem like there was a lot of holes in the kotaku story if I got to be honest. The whole thing of starting work on the sequel to andromeda after the game had barely come out seemed iffy at best. Work on DA4 has only started now two years after the game came out. The internal drama both studios fighting. Anthem killing off Mass Effect. Seems like drama for the sake of drama. And you know for such a hated game people sure like talking about it a lot We first get that SN article about the game needing to be delayed, then the Kotaku articles and then FB post last night, and all of them connect. That's why I won't trust a single thing because too much matches up, and the whole vibe I got from the Reddit post about the article was the same vibe I got from FB last night.
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Post by kino on Jun 29, 2017 18:18:38 GMT
So, that Samhain44 character, has he been vindicated? Because he still seems like a prime suspect to me from the skim reading i've done in this thread. My personal opinion is that samhain was simply reposting what he found and saw. Plus, he writes too well to be involved in that incoherent mess of a page that was Sinclair Networks.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 29, 2017 18:23:45 GMT
So, that Samhain44 character, has he been vindicated? Because he still seems like a prime suspect to me from the skim reading i've done in this thread. My personal opinion is that samhain was simply reposting what he found and saw. Plus, he writes too well to be involved in that incoherent mess of a page that was Sinclair Networks. Nobody should be attacking SamHain444. If anything, EA should be thanking him and the unofficial forums. SamHain444 is starving for news. That's all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:24:32 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if they were former BW employees that did this. Legit since they did work at BW, fake for the stuff they claimed they saw/heard. There seem like there was a lot of holes in the kotaku story if I got to be honest. The whole thing of starting work on the sequel to andromeda after the game had barely come out seemed iffy at best. Work on DA4 has only started now two years after the game came out. The internal drama both studios fighting. Anthem killing off Mass Effect. Seems like drama for the sake of drama. And you know for such a hated game people sure like talking about it a lot Everything that has Bioware hate label on it is making money these days. That ´ s why people are still attempting to make cash from it. Like that whole ´ buy my book which has all the spicy details about Bioware I promise ´. MEA is NOT universally hated. Trolls and haters are just the ones with largest mouths and no real life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 18:29:00 GMT
There seem like there was a lot of holes in the kotaku story if I got to be honest. The whole thing of starting work on the sequel to andromeda after the game had barely come out seemed iffy at best. Work on DA4 has only started now two years after the game came out. The internal drama both studios fighting. Anthem killing off Mass Effect. Seems like drama for the sake of drama. And you know for such a hated game people sure like talking about it a lot Everything that has Bioware hate label on it is making money these days. That ´ s why people are still attempting to make cash from it. Like that whole ´ buy my book which has all the spicy details about Bioware I promise ´. MEA is NOT universally hated. Trolls and haters are just the ones with largest mouths and no real life. Andromeda is such a bad game I played it for 70 hours
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Post by smilesja on Jun 29, 2017 18:31:09 GMT
Everything that has Bioware hate label on it is making money these days. That ´ s why people are still attempting to make cash from it. Like that whole ´ buy my book which has all the spicy details about Bioware I promise ´. MEA is NOT universally hated. Trolls and haters are just the ones with largest mouths and no real life. Andromeda is such a bad game I played it for 70 hours
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 29, 2017 18:32:40 GMT
Andromeda is such a bad game I played it for 70 hours Excellent.
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Post by qunaripenis on Jun 29, 2017 18:34:00 GMT
THat was one of the juiciest threads I've ever read
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Post by canticleofshartan on Jun 29, 2017 18:34:20 GMT
Clearly after this debacle what we need is a movement championing "ethics in games journalism"
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