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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 1, 2017 8:18:18 GMT
- Not commenting on ME being on hiatus.
- Not commenting on MEA's 3 year troubled development.
- Not commenting on the disappearing negative GlassDoor reviews.
- Can say that Anthem which isn't released yet will get 10 year support, but they can't say anything about DLC on 4 month old game with only 1 year support.
- Not specifying the amount of BW Montréal developers moved to Motive Studios to work on Star Wars, and how much are left to continue working on MEA.
There's also the not denouncing Manveer Heir's racist comments, and just leaving it at "he's not working on BW anymore".
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Post by colfoley on Jul 1, 2017 8:23:41 GMT
Why should they tell us anything?
And the Anthem thing is like the Destiny thing, that was likely a vague generality or the intention to turn it into another franchise. I highly doubt Anthem itself will get ten years of support.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 1, 2017 8:37:37 GMT
Why should they tell us anything? And the Anthem thing is like the Destiny thing, that was likely a vague generality or the intention to turn it into another franchise. I highly doubt Anthem itself will get ten years of support. Qui tacet consentit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 8:40:26 GMT
Why should they tell us anything? And the Anthem thing is like the Destiny thing, that was likely a vague generality or the intention to turn it into another franchise. I highly doubt Anthem itself will get ten years of support. Because you're paying customers that actually have the right to know about the future of said product you paid money for. Just a guess.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 1, 2017 8:40:34 GMT
Why should they tell us anything? And the Anthem thing is like the Destiny thing, that was likely a vague generality or the intention to turn it into another franchise. I highly doubt Anthem itself will get ten years of support. Qui tacet consentit. Pretend I don't know what that is.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 1, 2017 8:45:23 GMT
Why should they tell us anything? And the Anthem thing is like the Destiny thing, that was likely a vague generality or the intention to turn it into another franchise. I highly doubt Anthem itself will get ten years of support. Beacuse you are paying customers that actually have the right to know about the future of said product you paid money for. Just a guess. We know the fate of the product we brought. It was released on the 6th of March 2017. Anything more would be a new product we would have to buy. And sure, I am curious about any future for the Mass Effect franchise but I do not have a 'right to know'. Not until BioWare decides it is the best time to release that information.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 1, 2017 8:58:15 GMT
Always this: Mark Darrah ✔ @biomarkdarrahSo reasons why we may not answer your question: - We can not because of a contractual obligation
- We can not because of SEC or other regulatory laws
- The information would trigger a revenue recognition issue
- It's a surprise
- We don't know the answer
- We are avoiding bad news. We try to avoid doing this because it rarely works out. But it does happen on occasion.
- You asked it a way that didn't make someone want to answer. Be nice, please
- The question got lost. This is not an excuse to SPAM your questions, however.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 1, 2017 9:04:58 GMT
It's not Bioware that decides when to talk about future content, it's EA. And I agree, this continued silence about the future of the ME franchise isn't what I'd like. But it is what it is and after all this recent drama it's not worth it to get worked up over rumors and speculation. "When we can talk about it, we will" implies that there will come a time when they'll give us a definitive answer.
Honestly, they have their reasons for keeping quiet now and that's their prerogative as a public company. They don't owe us to talk about content that doesn't exist, the only thing they do owe us is patching the existing content that people already paid for.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 1, 2017 9:18:37 GMT
They are not really "public" for a company with forums and tweeter and other forms of communications. This only makes their business look shady, they're an entertainment(lol) business, not the FBI. And the fact they're deleting negative company reviews and not commenting on the status of BW Montréal is a legal concern to the well being of the developers.
Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit - He who is silent, when he ought to have spoken and was able to, is taken to agree. (Latin proverb)
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Post by Rivercurse on Jul 1, 2017 9:19:39 GMT
Seems to me that Bio have been in a difficult position pretty much from the start. That being said, there have still been some PR missteps.
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Post by abaris on Jul 1, 2017 9:56:07 GMT
- Not commenting on ME being on hiatus.
- Not commenting on MEA's 3 year troubled development.
- Not commenting on the disappearing negative GlassDoor reviews.
- Can say that Anthem which isn't released yet will get 10 year support, but they can't say anything about DLC on 4 month old game with only 1 year support.
- Not specifying the amount of BW Montréal developers moved to Motive Studios to work on Star Wars, and how much are left to continue working on MEA.
There's also the not denouncing Manveer Heir's racist comments, and just leaving it at "he's not working on BW anymore".Why do you expect any company to communicate negatives? No corporation does that. If there is something positive to communicate, such as a DLC, close to it's release date, they will promote it. If there is none, they will keep schtum. Even more so since they didn't promote MEA to be expanded on prior to it's release. So the anticipation train is entirely usermade and not something the company fueled in the first place. It's some players looking for hints in every corner, not the company encouraging them to do that in any official statement.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 1, 2017 9:59:46 GMT
They are not really "public" for a company with forums and tweeter and other forms of communications. This only makes their business look shady, they're an entertainment(lol) business, not the FBI. And the fact they're deleting negative company reviews and not commenting on the status of BW Montréal is a legal concern to the well being of the developers. Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit - He who is silent, when he ought to have spoken and was able to, is taken to agree. (Latin proverb) I meant public company in the legal sense: a company that anyone can own stock in and who has to answer to investors. This impacts what they can and can't share on social media because they have shareholders to answer to, not just fans. The deleting of company reviews is news to me, got any more reading material on this?
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 1, 2017 10:21:29 GMT
I think it was Link"Guess"ski, but it was some months ago, someone posted screenshots of negative EA/BW reviews on GlassDoor that were deleted.
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Post by abaris on Jul 1, 2017 10:41:50 GMT
I meant public company in the legal sense: a company that anyone can own stock in and who has to answer to investors. This impacts what they can and can't share on social media because they have shareholders to answer to, not just fans. The deleting of company reviews is news to me, got any more reading material on this? Exactly. They can only make statements the board agrees on. Tell you something and you all can quote me later on this. If - IF - they're dropping the franchise and if - IF - they decide on communicating the fact, it will come as a footnote in another message, giving the message a positive spin. Let's see, but the message would look something like this: We're always looking for input from our fanbase. In order to give this exciting new project (insert name of your liking) all the attention it deserves, we have decided on bundelling our resources. The next entry in our successful Mass Effect franchise will come, but we can't be specific at this moment about the projected timeline.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 1, 2017 13:17:09 GMT
Why should they? Just because you want to know isn't a reason for them to possibly put themselves into a position of a no-win situation. Glassdoor is a completely unregulated website that those "reviews" could have been removed simply because they were false, but because it is EA its always the worst case scenario. Would I like to know if Mass Effect is gone, sure. The problem is at a company like EA making an announcement like that is a major decision that cannot be walked backed easily and frankly they might not even know internally yet what they want to do, but then again Patrick Wilson said that they remain dedicated to BioWare and Mass Effect during their investor's call, but that is easily dismissed because it doesn't fit the narrative.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 1, 2017 13:30:12 GMT
I think it was Link"Guess"ski, but it was some months ago, someone posted screenshots of negative EA/BW reviews on GlassDoor that were deleted. I used to check Glassdoor through alerts on Bioware and a few others. I have noticed one particular review disappear and I know the author. It does happen if it's refuted or unverified. EA had better figure out how to lead through its PR departments rather than chasing sentences on the web. If that's the case, EA is petty and seriously wants another dogfight in the media. Stupid asses.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 1, 2017 13:40:07 GMT
There's only two things that I foresee happening in the coming months: 1) They'll be much rejoicing and high fives across the board once they announce the dlc. Or 2) They'll be a shi**storm of epic proportions never before seen that'll actually make BSN crash if they actually say there won't be any dlc. I hope for the former.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 13:41:07 GMT
There's only two things that I foresee happening in the coming months: 1) They'll be much rejoicing and high fives across the board once they announce the dlc. Or 2) They'll be a shi**storm of epic proportions never before seen that'll actually make BSN crash if they actually say there won't be any dlc. I hope for the former. Kind of want the second one to happen lol
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Post by abaris on Jul 1, 2017 13:53:09 GMT
There's only two things that I foresee happening in the coming months: 1) They'll be much rejoicing and high fives across the board once they announce the dlc. Or 2) They'll be a shi**storm of epic proportions never before seen that'll actually make BSN crash if they actually say there won't be any dlc. I hope for the former. #2 won't happen. If there aren't any DLCs you will only know because they're absent. Not because of an official statement. For how stupid do you take these people?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 13:57:05 GMT
They would be stupid to keep ignoring the fans. People aren't gong to accept that anymore, so they will have to do a DA2 Expansion cancellation-type of announcement eventually. Then shit will fly.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 1, 2017 13:59:13 GMT
- Can say that Anthem which isn't released yet will get 10 year support, but they can't say anything about DLC on 4 month old game with only 1 year support.
Where the hell did you get that bit of info? There's also the not denouncing Manveer Heir's racist comments, and just leaving it at "he's not working on BW anymore". Completely irrelevant and Manveer was a contractor, never a full BioWare employee.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 14:00:34 GMT
- Can say that Anthem which isn't released yet will get 10 year support, but they can't say anything about DLC on 4 month old game with only 1 year support.
Where the hell did you get that bit of info? There's also the not denouncing Manveer Heir's racist comments, and just leaving it at "he's not working on BW anymore". Completely irrelevant and Manveer was a contractor, never a full BioWare employee. The 10 year thing was mentioned be the devs if I recall. They think MP is God.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 1, 2017 14:03:04 GMT
The 10 year thing was mentioned be the devs if I recall. They think MP is God. Can you provide source for that? I never heard of that before and I doubt it's real. Not even MMO's give such promise, hell neither did the Bungie with Destiny. And those guys thought they were developing something truly revolutionary and new.
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