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Post by Serza on Jul 3, 2017 11:43:02 GMT
Query: Did the organic provide any indication of the source being real, Master?
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 3, 2017 11:43:57 GMT
Logic would suggest this would be the same source, but I'm far more willing to take this kind of thing seriously if it's being independently reported.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 11:43:57 GMT
Again no BW official word just speculations. Unnamed sources are worthless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 11:46:40 GMT
Always goes back to Kotaku. Also note this source didn't say anything was cancelled.
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Post by link2twenty on Jul 3, 2017 11:47:02 GMT
They're referencing the same report that's been around a while. It's yet to be proven one way or the other so it's best to hold judgment 🙂
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Post by sil on Jul 3, 2017 11:47:49 GMT
I do agree about there being no official word from Bioware. But Eurogamer is somewhat more believable when reporting than Kotaku (not much more, this is gaming media afterall). As they claim their own source is saying the same.
Though the source could be their friend Dave who has never worked in the gaming industry at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 11:52:48 GMT
I do agree about there being no official word from Bioware. But Eurogamer is somewhat more believable when reporting than Kotaku (not much more, this is gaming media afterall). As they claim their own source is saying the same. Though the source could be their friend Dave who has never worked in the gaming industry at all. Actually the source is saying nothing is planned, unlike Jason who said it's 100% cancelled. This is still a way to get out info and if it changes, not come across lying.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 3, 2017 11:53:41 GMT
Until Bioware make statement either way, it's either coming or not. I'm not going to take notice of any more anonymous sources, or articles fuelled by speculation. I'll be happy if it does, disappointed if it doesn't, but I refuse to let the time between be taken over by an unnecessary emotional "it is/it isn't" roller-coaster.
IDK what has happened to journalism in the last couple of years, but this surge of unverifiable anonymous sources, click-bait reporting and filling in the gaps with whatever will have the greatest impact on readers has put me in a state of automatic dismissal of everything I read. It's like everyone has suddenly graduated from the Enquirer.
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Post by merlinistyle on Jul 3, 2017 11:55:21 GMT
Its better written with more facts and "dive-in", but is still the same words just in another more appealing cover.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 3, 2017 11:59:07 GMT
I do agree about there being no official word from Bioware. But Eurogamer is somewhat more believable when reporting than Kotaku (not much more, this is gaming media afterall). As they claim their own source is saying the same. Though the source could be their friend Dave who has never worked in the gaming industry at all. +1, Eurogamer are a bit more respectable than Kotaku. In fact, IIRC, this is the first time I've seen anything report this independently of Kotaku. OTOH we're still back to square one with 'well I heard from $SOURCE that etc' which realistically anyone can say. I'm in logicgunn's camp of growing a little sick of how clickbaity gaming journalism has become. Just tell me the facts you have FFS. If you want a soap box then mark your article as a commentary or something.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 3, 2017 12:09:21 GMT
This is a first site to use it's own source, instead of copy/pasting Kotaku's article.
However even Eurogamer says "someone close to BioWare" not "BioWare employee". So their source is rather meaningless, a pundit really who's speculating.
But I'm giving Eurogamer points for honesty, not being lazy with copy/pasting, and no click-bait title.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 3, 2017 12:10:32 GMT
Query: Did the organic provide any indication of the source being real, Master? It's Kotaku. Again. Doubling down. And dragging the lazy down with them. HK-47, you can engage with extreme prejudice.
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Post by dreman999 on Jul 3, 2017 12:12:50 GMT
Query: Did the organic provide any indication of the source being real, Master? Hk, you know these easy fooled, low minded meat bags didn't. Why would you ask?
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 3, 2017 12:13:32 GMT
I do agree about there being no official word from Bioware. But Eurogamer is somewhat more believable when reporting than Kotaku (not much more, this is gaming media afterall). As they claim their own source is saying the same. Though the source could be their friend Dave who has never worked in the gaming industry at all. +1, Eurogamer are a bit more respectable than Kotaku. In fact, IIRC, this is the first time I've seen anything report this independently of Kotaku. OTOH we're still back to square one with 'well I heard from $SOURCE that etc' which realistically anyone can say. I'm in logicgunn's camp of growing a little sick of how clickbaity gaming journalism has become. Just tell me the facts you have FFS. If you want a soap box then mark your article as a commentary or something.Exactly. There's a marked difference between news and opinion pieces. Both are fine, but masquerading opinion as fact is undermining the industry. If there are lives involved, anonymous sources are important. If you're going to use or pretend to use them for rumours of a game then you are sabotaging a valid and important journalism resource for the sake of vanity. This is Bioware, not North Korea.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 3, 2017 12:13:37 GMT
Again no BW official word just speculations. Unnamed sources are worthless. I've got an unnamed source that says I'm the next CEO of EA. I can't confirm or deny it, but since EA isn't talking and this is the internet... it all has to be true. Raises for everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 12:14:06 GMT
When the DLC comes out, I want the same thing to happen to these tabloid hacks' careers as what the audience they're pandering to wants to happen to the creators and fans of Mass Effect.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 3, 2017 12:15:29 GMT
+1, Eurogamer are a bit more respectable than Kotaku. In fact, IIRC, this is the first time I've seen anything report this independently of Kotaku. OTOH we're still back to square one with 'well I heard from $SOURCE that etc' which realistically anyone can say. I'm in logicgunn's camp of growing a little sick of how clickbaity gaming journalism has become. Just tell me the facts you have FFS. If you want a soap box then mark your article as a commentary or something.Exactly. There's a marked difference between news and opinion pieces. Both are fine, but masquerading opinion as fact is undermining the industry. If there are lives involved, anonymous sources are important. If you're going to use or pretend to use them for rumours of a game then you are sabotaging a valid and important journalism resource for the sake of vanity. This is Bioware, not North Korea.OMG. You win the internet today. UNH. HELL YES!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 12:17:37 GMT
They also claim that Montreal's BW was moved around due to the game not doing well. That's Kotaku's info once again being used as fact.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 3, 2017 12:19:44 GMT
Again no BW official word just speculations. Unnamed sources are worthless. I've got an unnamed source that says I'm the next CEO of EA. I can't confirm or deny it, but since EA isn't talking and this is the internet... it all has to be true. Raises for everyone! What a time to be alive. Dead Space 4 pls. And Crysis 4. C&C5 without all the grindy MP shit too.
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Post by link2twenty on Jul 3, 2017 12:21:14 GMT
I've got an unnamed source that says I'm the next CEO of EA. I can't confirm or deny it, but since EA isn't talking and this is the internet... it all has to be true. Raises for everyone! What a time to be alive. Dead Space 4 pls. And Crysis 4. C&C5 without all the grindy MP shit too. Think you'll have the cash to buy Valve and make HL3 while you're at it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 12:22:18 GMT
Again no BW official word just speculations. Unnamed sources are worthless. I've got an unnamed source that says I'm the next CEO of EA. I can't confirm or deny it, but since EA isn't talking and this is the internet... it all has to be true. Raises for everyone! Ian tweeted something like this on his Twitter during the SN thing haha
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 3, 2017 12:23:14 GMT
Also forgot to mention in my original comment, but Eurogamer also states there is no longer BioWare Montreal as all developers were moved to to other projects.
Which is quite false, considering MW Montreal is still around and releasing free content and patches. This week will be first time they won't release nor update anything, but that's due to Canada Day and 4th of July. Nothing unexpected.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 12:24:00 GMT
Also forgot to mention in my original comment, but Eurogamer also states there is no longer BioWare Montreal as all developers were moved to to other projects. Which is quite false, considering MW Montreal is still around and releasing free content and patches. This week will be first time they won't release nor update anything, but that's due to Canada Day and 4th of July. Nothing unexpected. I posted that too. More Kotaku stuff. I wonder if they paid them off to make that, so they look credible?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 3, 2017 12:25:06 GMT
I've got an unnamed source that says I'm the next CEO of EA. I can't confirm or deny it, but since EA isn't talking and this is the internet... it all has to be true. Raises for everyone! What a time to be alive. Dead Space 4 pls. And Crysis 4. C&C5 without all the grindy MP shit too. I'll get the developers to work on them right away. Since I make 12 million a year, I've decided that is way too much money for one human to have, so I'll spread the wealth around the lower-level developers who do all the grunt work. Then... I'm buying the Fallout IP and bringing it back to BioWare to make a really good Fallout title. Then... I'm going to do a lot of coke, make stupid suggestions using marketing speak and demand stuff to happen that isn't really possible. Then be all quiet about it except through thinly-veiled threats in my internal memos. Me, at the controls...
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