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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 6, 2017 15:16:20 GMT
Someone posted the link in the new map thread, but I thought it deserved its own. Batarian Vanguard: Powers: Charge, Annihilation, Flakcannon Human Artificer (Female): Powers: Cryobeam, RemnantVi, Invasion Armor/Skin: Remnant Human Commando (Female): Powers: Singularity, Turbocharge, Warp Armor/Skin: N7 Human Guardian (Male): Powers: Backlash, Shieldboost, Warp Armor/Skin: Heleus Human Juggernaut (Male): Powers: Snapfreeze, Fortify, Shockwave Armor/Skin: Remnant Source: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6ln060/a_list_of_characters_maps_you_can_expect_in_the/My preliminary thoughts on Platinum efficacy of the remaining characters, obviously subject to passives/details on warp/powers remaining as listed. Artificer: will be a platinum staple. I think cryo beam is being slept on - it's almost as good as Snap Freeze (the power) at debuffing armor. Although Snap Freeze (the evolution) isn't as great on Platinum as it is on gold, the debuff is more than good enough and has an added niche as a trap to help guard key choke points. I was originally afraid that VI would get in the way of cryo beam by detonating at inopportune times or priming away the debuff (if it works like that, not sure), but then I remembered that the Artificer has another top-tier power in invasion and can go 1 rank in VI. Two of the best debuffs makes this a solid alternative to the Scrapper, especially if she gets elemental tech. Commando: could be great, but depends a lot on what passives she gets (really hope they don't fuck her over by not giving her offensive biotics like they did to the BatVan) and how good warp's debuff is. At minimum she'll be a decent off-dps but if warp is good enough maybe she can take the Scrapper's spot in a lineup. Guardian: shield boost/10. If warp is decent this will be an alternative to the Salarian Operator on platinum. Juggernaut: we all know how great Snap Freeze is by now. The thing is, shockwave is basically useless on this kit (and also random as hell) - it detonates Snap Freeze and ends its debuff and otherwise isn't as good as, say, concussive shot at CCing red bars/dogs in a pinch. That leaves fortification vs flak Cannon, and on platinum I gotta give it hands down to a great dps power over an (admittedly good) survivability power. Obviously depends on passives (and I hope the shockwave reference is wrong, seriously wtf), but it's looking like the Juggernaut's skillset will be overshadowed by the Scrapper.
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Post by seductivewizard on Aug 6, 2017 16:23:34 GMT
Someone posted the link in the new map thread, but I thought it deserved its own. Batarian Vanguard: Powers: Charge, Annihilation, Flakcannon Human Artificer (Female): Powers: Cryobeam, RemnantVi, Invasion Armor/Skin: Remnant Human Commando (Female): Powers: Singularity, Turbocharge, Warp Armor/Skin: N7 Human Guardian (Male): Powers: Backlash, Shieldboost, Warp Armor/Skin: Heleus Human Juggernaut (Male): Powers: Snapfreeze, Fortify, Shockwave Armor/Skin: Remnant Source: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6ln060/a_list_of_characters_maps_you_can_expect_in_the/My preliminary thoughts on Platinum efficacy of the remaining characters, obviously subject to passives/details on warp/powers remaining as listed. Artificer: will be a platinum staple. I think cryo beam is being slept on - it's almost as good as Snap Freeze (the power) at debuffing armor. Although Snap Freeze (the evolution) isn't as great on Platinum as it is on gold, the debuff is more than good enough and has an added niche as a trap to help guard key choke points. I was originally afraid that VI would get in the way of cryo beam by detonating at inopportune times or priming away the debuff (if it works like that, not sure), but then I remembered that the Artificer has another top-tier power in invasion and can go 1 rank in VI. Two of the best debuffs makes this a solid alternative to the Scrapper, especially if she gets elemental tech. Commando: could be great, but depends a lot on what passives she gets (really hope they don't fuck her over by not giving her offensive biotics like they did to the BatVan) and how good warp's debuff is. At minimum she'll be a decent off-dps but if warp is good enough maybe she can take the Scrapper's spot in a lineup. Guardian: shield boost/10. If warp is decent this will be an alternative to the Salarian Operator on platinum. Juggernaut: we all know how great Snap Freeze is by now. The thing is, shockwave is basically useless on this kit (and also random as hell) - it detonates Snap Freeze and ends its debuff and otherwise isn't as good as, say, concussive shot at CCing red bars/dogs in a pinch. That leaves fortification vs flak Cannon, and on platinum I gotta give it hands down to a great dps power over an (admittedly good) survivability power. Obviously depends on passives (and I hope the shockwave reference is wrong, seriously wtf), but it's looking like the Juggernaut's skillset will be overshadowed by the Scrapper. For the artificer, 1 point on the Remnant VI's a no-brainer, considering the superior utility of invasion and cryobeam in platinum. For the commando and gaurdian, its hard to speculate at this point without knowing what exactly warp does. I assume it won't be the same tree as in ME3. If the Juggernaut has both hold the line and fortify, he'd be a superior tank, in comparison to the scrapper. The stability/accuracy bonus from fortify can let him use a badass shortgun like the shorty or piranha and he'd have the group stun from fortify's purge. 1 point on shockwave is a no-brainer. Cryofreeze, unload shotgun, end with a shockwave cryo explosion right at the end just before the debuff ends. He also has the option to tech combo with shockwave (fortify purge-->shockwave). Very interesting kit.
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Post by c0y0tesly on Aug 6, 2017 17:37:32 GMT
Really looking forward to the Artificer and the Commando. If the commando gets Barrier and a custom offensive tree that grants options in weapon damage and debuff stacking like her power set implies she could be glorious.
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Post by monk on Aug 6, 2017 18:00:09 GMT
I too am looking foward to the Commando. Although unless it gets bumped to UR, probably won't be getting it's own unique power. And even if bumped, possible to not get anything unique ala the Batarian Vanguard.
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Post by Hellkite on Aug 7, 2017 11:07:22 GMT
The commando and guardian interest me the most. Oh yes indeed gimme gimme Also the more I think about the Artificer .... debuff master
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Post by Doc Pirahna on Aug 7, 2017 11:19:41 GMT
Perhaps the Commando will have something like the Containment passive from SP.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 7, 2017 15:17:40 GMT
A long time ago xaijin told us we would get Platinum-specific characters... looks like he was right.
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Post by Red Comet 313 on Aug 7, 2017 15:21:19 GMT
Hopefully they'll release the characters while people still play... This drip needs to increase in pace...
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Post by saMoorai on Aug 7, 2017 17:50:54 GMT
Goddamnit, I want that Commando.
Gimme my Warp back. I need my Biotic magic missile.
gimme gimme gimme
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 7, 2017 18:02:43 GMT
Throw is the Biotic magic missile.
Warp is the Biotic fireball.
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Post by s4nholo on Aug 7, 2017 23:49:05 GMT
As such, it will have a 20 second cool down.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 8, 2017 0:08:21 GMT
Ooh, are we guessing cooldowns now?
I'll say Warp will have a base 12s cooldown, like Shockwave, Overload, or Incinerate.
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Post by N7Mith on Aug 8, 2017 11:03:12 GMT
Ooh, are we guessing cooldowns now? I'll say Warp will have a base 12s cooldown, like Shockwave, Overload, or Incinerate. Nah they made us wait this long for it, they'll probably make it 18 so we can enjoy the wait again after each use.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Aug 10, 2017 1:59:00 GMT
Wonder how the Batguard will be? ME3?
"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Aug 11, 2017 4:33:41 GMT
Just wondering something, if memory serves one of the major things to be put in this game was that all species that had more than one gender would have them depicted in-game, would this mean then that the batguard would be a batfem? If so, not sure how I'd feel about the first time seeing a batfem would only be in MP. Just my thoughts If you recall throughout the original ME trilogy, Batarians regardless of gender look and sound alike. Some characters that diffidently sound like men have been referred to as her in previous games, not sure if its intentional. Not sure if this was just out of laziness though, kind of like how we went to another galaxy and somehow only manage to encounter 2 sentient alien species, and like 75% of one(the Kett) and just Anagaran lol Or how the Scourge is literally never explained as to why it exists or where it came from, but I digress...
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Post by The Joe-Man on Aug 11, 2017 5:06:53 GMT
Just wondering something, if memory serves one of the major things to be put in this game was that all species that had more than one gender would have them depicted in-game, would this mean then that the batguard would be a batfem? If so, not sure how I'd feel about the first time seeing a batfem would only be in MP. Just my thoughts If you recall throughout the original ME trilogy, Batarians regardless of gender look and sound alike. Some characters that diffidently sound like men have been referred to as her in previous games, not sure if its intentional. Not sure if this was just out of laziness though, kind of like how we went to another galaxy and somehow only manage to encounter 2 sentient alien species, and like 75% of one(the Kett) and just Anagaran lol Or how the Scourge is literally never explained as to why it exists or where it came from, but I digress... The above is all horse shit. We've never seen a female batarian in any of the games. Find me one example and I'll gladly recant.
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Post by monk on Aug 11, 2017 6:21:46 GMT
It's going to sound boastful and eDong, but I'm putting forth my feelings on the matter of not having much more to do is all:
600+ hours in MP. About to grab my Batarian Vanguard X in next four boxes. All UR guns are rank II or higher. Everything else barring variants are rank X, and even variants (bar UR variants) are nearing or at X already. About to finish Bonus HP X rank (13mil to go); this moves me out of my favourite character of Kineticist.
Need another character I want to play soon, as the desire to continue is currently on the wane. Want that Commando to drop soon!
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 11, 2017 13:00:17 GMT
You are the reason they stretch out the content released.
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Post by N7Mith on Aug 11, 2017 15:07:21 GMT
It's going to sound boastful and eDong, but I'm putting forth my feelings on the matter of not having much more to do is all: 600+ hours in MP. About to grab my Batarian Vanguard X in next four boxes. All UR guns are rank II or higher. Everything else barring variants are rank X, and even variants (bar UR variants) are nearing or at X already. About to finish Bonus HP X rank (13mil to go); this moves me out of my favourite character of Kineticist. Need another character I want to play soon, as the desire to continue is currently on the wane. Want that Commando to drop soon! Now what the hell would a monk want with an E-dong?
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Post by The Joe-Man on Aug 12, 2017 21:26:38 GMT
I had it brought to my attention last night that Destiny 2 is being released on September 6th. With that in mind, I think Bioware's plan is to drop all four of these characters on either October 31st or September 7th in the hopes of keeping their player base intact. Thoughts?
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Post by paunchycyclops on Aug 12, 2017 22:00:33 GMT
It's going to sound boastful and eDong, but I'm putting forth my feelings on the matter of not having much more to do is all: 600+ hours in MP. About to grab my Batarian Vanguard X in next four boxes. All UR guns are rank II or higher. Everything else barring variants are rank X, and even variants (bar UR variants) are nearing or at X already. About to finish Bonus HP X rank (13mil to go); this moves me out of my favourite character of Kineticist. Need another character I want to play soon, as the desire to continue is currently on the wane. Want that Commando to drop soon! Now what the hell would a monk want with an E-dong? It's because of the whole vow of celibacy thing.
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Post by monk on Aug 12, 2017 22:02:14 GMT
Now what the hell would a monk want with an E-dong? It's because of the whole vow of celibacy thing. Bingo. No wait... Wrong game for that.
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Post by monk on Aug 12, 2017 22:03:14 GMT
I had it brought to my attention last night that Destiny 2 is being released on September 6th. With that in mind, I think Bioware's plan is to drop all four of these characters on either October 31st or September 7th in the hopes of keeping their player base intact. Thoughts? Gah! That's so far away! Noooooo.....!!! Just drop the Commando on it's own damnit!
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Post by Transcended One on Aug 13, 2017 5:36:26 GMT
I had it brought to my attention last night that Destiny 2 is being released on September 6th. With that in mind, I think Bioware's plan is to drop all four of these characters on either October 31st or September 7th in the hopes of keeping their player base intact. Thoughts? Just a question since I haven't played the first one, because of PC and all, but is there anything in Destiny 2 which resembles MEA which might interest a large portion of the not that big playerbase enough to steal them away? Aside from the Sci-fi setting that is?
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