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Post by Guts on Jul 25, 2017 8:02:14 GMT
I was thinking how people were calling the voice acting bad.... Have you heard of a game called, "The Town With No Name"? That game had some truly laughable voice acting. But agreed, at the very least, Andromeda is a solid foundation for sequel. Next you're gonna tell me you don't like strangers around here.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2017 11:24:27 GMT
]No, it really isn't. Andromeda is a soulless emulation of the things that made the original trilogy great. Ah, that reminds me of something I meant to say in my other post. I had zero expectations about this being any kind of successor to the MASS EFFECT TRILOGY[TM]. Which is why the Liara tapes were an unexpected surprise. I'm finding it pretty liberating to judge the game on it's own merits. Cherishing disappointment is exhausting. I'd rather just have fun in a more-or-less blissful ignorance. Indeed I think that's why I'm ab;le to enjoy this game for what it is as I judge all games on their own merits. I knew that Boiware weren't going to be going for another game with the epicness of the trilogy as there was no way they'd be able to pull it off because there comes a point in time where you have to do something different and take the series in a new direction otherwise things get stale. The only thing I was concerned with really before the game launched was the combat system and how i twas faster paced but tbh I'm not finding the combat any harder in MEA than I did the trilogy. The only time I'm having to really up my game is in the vaults when you have to outrun those purification fields as some of them can be pretty tricky. For example I hada fair bit of trouble getting through Elaadens yesterday as the damn thing was on my back the whole way as that one launches pretty quick. It's easy to get back it's getting back and hitting the button befoer the thing hits you that's the problem. Whereas some of the other vaults give you a bit more time. But yeah the game is very enjoyable on it's own merits. TBH I think that's MEA's problem though in that it's got Mass Effect in the title and because of this people are comparing it with the trilogy. That's where for me most of the problems lie they expected a game that was too much like we got in ME1-3 instead of realizing that Shepard's story was done and that Bioware were going to try something new for the franchise. Granted there were too many bugs when the game launched but that aside for me it worked. Yes the game had a troubled development cycle but at the end of the day Bioware gave us a good game with a good story and despite the troubles I still hope we get some DLC for this game. Because despite everything a lot of people still like it.
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regarding the cringy dialogue and bad voice acting i see complaints about online: WHERE IS IT? 160 hours in left only with peebee loyalty and propably the last main mission and there is no such thing! Drack, Cora, Peebee, Vetra,Jaal, Ryder twins, gil ,Sam, Tan, Kesh, Addison, Lia, SUvi, Kallo , CASSANDRA , VIVVIENNE , all act great. The lies and misinformation regarding andromeda is staggering Lies and misinformation, wow. Is this what we call differing opinions nowadays?
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 25, 2017 12:50:07 GMT
I was thinking how people were calling the voice acting bad.... Have you heard of a game called, "The Town With No Name"? That game had some truly laughable voice acting. But agreed, at the very least, Andromeda is a solid foundation for sequel. Never heard of it lol. But the graphics remind me of Full Throttle.
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Post by kino on Jul 25, 2017 15:02:38 GMT
I think Andromeda is a good foundation to build on and I love Fryda's acting, so I hope we get more in the future. I was thinking how people were calling the voice acting bad.... Have you heard of a game called, "The Town With No Name"? That game had some truly laughable voice acting. But agreed, at the very least, Andromeda is a solid foundation for sequel. That just stupefies me, that the VA work could be considered bad. It was easily on par with anything else I've heard from other studios, including BW's other games. One thing BW is really good at and that's getting excellent VA's to voice their characters.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jul 25, 2017 15:58:43 GMT
regarding the cringy dialogue and bad voice acting i see complaints about online: WHERE IS IT? 160 hours in left only with peebee loyalty and propably the last main mission and there is no such thing! Drack, Cora, Peebee, Vetra,Jaal, Ryder twins, gil ,Sam, Tan, Kesh, Addison, Lia, SUvi, Kallo , CASSANDRA , VIVVIENNE , all act great. The lies and misinformation regarding andromeda is staggering Lies and misinformation, wow. Is this what we call differing opinions nowadays? yes lies. And misniformation. also double standards. lots of them. Animations are fine: ryders movement is SUPERB, i can see the opposite being told from haters. Facial animations are not great but they are fine as they are. Asari have the best expressions. That whole intro scene with the gravity losson the memes regarding Dr lexi: yeah people are idiots. This while funny at first glance it really is a lifelike animation. Dialogue i kept hearing the worst, ive yet to see a bad line. As for "tired face" line, it is the way addison talks (it is her character, this is evident the more you talk to her) but none of the low IQ whinners got it. And speaking of the tired face scene: i started playing with 1.04 or 1.05 (thats what? a month away from launch?) when i saw that scene and i said to myself "wait, that's it??" SO yeah i am really pissed about all these lies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 16:17:06 GMT
regarding the cringy dialogue and bad voice acting i see complaints about online: WHERE IS IT? 160 hours in left only with peebee loyalty and propably the last main mission and there is no such thing! Drack, Cora, Peebee, Vetra,Jaal, Ryder twins, gil ,Sam, Tan, Kesh, Addison, Lia, SUvi, Kallo , CASSANDRA , VIVVIENNE , all act great. The lies and misinformation regarding andromeda is staggering Lies and misinformation, wow. Is this what we call differing opinions nowadays? There are a number of intentional and misleading exaggerated implications floating about... statements like "all the planets are deserts" or "ME:A never takes itself seriously" or "there's only one new alien species" or, more recently, "the side quests are 99% boring tedious fetch quests." Furthermore, these sorts of exaggerations do seem to come more frequently from the people who dislike the game than they do from the people who like it. There are some cringy lines, but in my experience, many of them are completely avoidable... many by simple selecting the professional dialogue option more frequently. I would also say that, overall, the voice acting is very good... lines are generally delivered with an appropriate intonation for the line (that is, I have yet to encounter a "shrieking" incident like the one in ME1 when the crew is discussing the descent into Ilos. The only lines I've heard delivered poorly was with Jaal... he doesn't cry very convincingly (and realistic crying is something that has been tough for a lot of actors in movies and TV shows for as long as I can remember).
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 25, 2017 16:17:10 GMT
I was thinking how people were calling the voice acting bad.... Have you heard of a game called, "The Town With No Name"? That game had some truly laughable voice acting. But agreed, at the very least, Andromeda is a solid foundation for sequel. That just stupefies me, that the VA work could be considered bad. It was easily on par with anything else I've heard from other studios, including BW's other games. One thing BW is really good at and that's getting excellent VA's to voice their characters. People blatantly exaggerate to refuse give any positive points about the work of fiction they despise.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 25, 2017 16:29:23 GMT
Why the hell do you even come here? Because I love Mass Effect. Just not this abomination that wears the skin of Mass Effect. No, it really isn't. Andromeda is a soulless emulation of the things that made the original trilogy great. This is a Mass Effect game, whatever you like it or not Also those are some pretty damn outrageous claim when you admitted you didn't play ME:A beyond Eos Remnant Vault. You didn't even get far enough in story to properly judge it and characters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 16:36:10 GMT
I loved the game too and want more of it. I think too many people bashed it for not being enough like the original trilogy. But that was the point they weren't trying to make it like the originals. It is supposed to stand on its own. The writing is great and they left a lot of room for more great storytelling I feel that the folks bashed it not because it was not like the OT -it actually was- but because it was not as impactful as the OT. They wanted a rapture, and they got a solid BioWare game. And they cooped with it with all the mastery over their emotions equal to that of an average toddler.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 25, 2017 16:42:15 GMT
regarding the cringy dialogue and bad voice acting i see complaints about online: WHERE IS IT? 160 hours in left only with peebee loyalty and propably the last main mission and there is no such thing! Drack, Cora, Peebee, Vetra,Jaal, Ryder twins, gil ,Sam, Tan, Kesh, Addison, Lia, SUvi, Kallo , CASSANDRA , VIVVIENNE , all act great. The lies and misinformation regarding andromeda is staggering Lies and misinformation, wow. Is this what we call differing opinions nowadays? Nope only those who blatantly lie or mislead.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 25, 2017 16:43:21 GMT
Lies and misinformation, wow. Is this what we call differing opinions nowadays? There are a number of intentional and misleading exaggerated implications floating about... statements like "all the planets are deserts" or "ME:A never takes itself seriously" or "there's only one new alien species" or, more recently, "the side quests are 99% boring tedious fetch quests." Furthermore, these sorts of exaggerations do seem to come more frequently from the people who dislike the game than they do from the people who like it. There are some cringy lines, but in my experience, many of them are completely avoidable... many by simple selecting the professional dialogue option more frequently. I would also say that, overall, the voice acting is very good... lines are generally delivered with an appropriate intonation for the line (that is, I have yet to encounter a "shrieking" incident like the one in ME1 when the crew is discussing the descent into Ilos. The only lines I've heard delivered poorly was with Jaal... he doesn't cry very convincingly (and realistic crying is something that has been tough for a lot of actors in movies and TV shows for as long as I can remember). He said he's yet to see a bad line of dialogue, I mean come on now. This is the same person that said other people were exaggerating or lying with their opinions. But at the end of the day you're still calling someone's opinion a lie or an exaggeration. For example one of my friends likes the game, likes the tone etc. He thinks that Liam's loyalty mission is one of the best missions in the game. Another one of my friends thought that mission was terrible, corny, etc. That's just differing opinions based on personal taste. No one is lying or exaggerating anything, it's all subjective. ME:A could have easily avoided some of this by just making an dialogue option for Ryder dedicated to that tone like sarcastic Hawke. Too many times you were only given the bottom two options, so it was either professional or corny. How can those be the only two options for any answer ever? There should have been a real casual option.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 17:09:04 GMT
There are a number of intentional and misleading exaggerated implications floating about... statements like "all the planets are deserts" or "ME:A never takes itself seriously" or "there's only one new alien species" or, more recently, "the side quests are 99% boring tedious fetch quests." Furthermore, these sorts of exaggerations do seem to come more frequently from the people who dislike the game than they do from the people who like it. There are some cringy lines, but in my experience, many of them are completely avoidable... many by simple selecting the professional dialogue option more frequently. I would also say that, overall, the voice acting is very good... lines are generally delivered with an appropriate intonation for the line (that is, I have yet to encounter a "shrieking" incident like the one in ME1 when the crew is discussing the descent into Ilos. The only lines I've heard delivered poorly was with Jaal... he doesn't cry very convincingly (and realistic crying is something that has been tough for a lot of actors in movies and TV shows for as long as I can remember). He said he's yet to see a bad line of dialogue, I mean come on now. This is the same person that said other people were exaggerating or lying with their opinions. But at the end of the day you're still calling someone's opinion a lie or an exaggeration. For example one of my friends likes the game, likes the tone etc. He thinks that Liam's loyalty mission is one of the best missions in the game. Another one of my friends thought that mission was terrible, corny, etc. That's just differing opinions based on personal taste. No one is lying or exaggerating anything, it's all subjective. ME:A could have easily avoided some of this by just making an dialogue option for Ryder dedicated to that tone like sarcastic Hawke. Too many times you were only given the bottom two options, so it was either professional or corny. How can those be the only two options for any answer ever? There should have been a real casual option. You're choosing to misread what it is I did say. I clearly acknowledge there were some cringy lines of dialogue, but I also said MANY of those lines were completely avoidable. What I said is that I had not encountered a line of dialogue that was delivered poorly by the VA, save for Jaal's crying scene. Big difference. Also, an exaggeration of a fact is not a "difference of opinion." The person who said that 99% of the side quests in the game were "boring tedious fetch quests" could not possibly list 198 fetch quests in this game. Since the total side quests in the game rests at 201, this is what it would take for them to be 99% fetch quests. That, my friend, is an exaggeration done for the purpose of misleading people into believing their "opinion" represents a greater portion of the game than it does.
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Post by Guts on Jul 25, 2017 17:11:35 GMT
There are a number of intentional and misleading exaggerated implications floating about... statements like "all the planets are deserts" or "ME:A never takes itself seriously" or "there's only one new alien species" or, more recently, "the side quests are 99% boring tedious fetch quests." Furthermore, these sorts of exaggerations do seem to come more frequently from the people who dislike the game than they do from the people who like it. There are some cringy lines, but in my experience, many of them are completely avoidable... many by simple selecting the professional dialogue option more frequently. I would also say that, overall, the voice acting is very good... lines are generally delivered with an appropriate intonation for the line (that is, I have yet to encounter a "shrieking" incident like the one in ME1 when the crew is discussing the descent into Ilos. The only lines I've heard delivered poorly was with Jaal... he doesn't cry very convincingly (and realistic crying is something that has been tough for a lot of actors in movies and TV shows for as long as I can remember). He said he's yet to see a bad line of dialogue, I mean come on now. This is the same person that said other people were exaggerating or lying with their opinions. But at the end of the day you're still calling someone's opinion a lie or an exaggeration. For example one of my friends likes the game, likes the tone etc. He thinks that Liam's loyalty mission is one of the best missions in the game. Another one of my friends thought that mission was terrible, corny, etc. That's just differing opinions based on personal taste. No one is lying or exaggerating anything, it's all subjective. ME:A could have easily avoided some of this by just making an dialogue option for Ryder dedicated to that tone like sarcastic Hawke. Too many times you were only given the bottom two options, so it was either professional or corny. How can those be the only two options for any answer ever? There should have been a real casual option. Have you seen Totalbiscuit's videos talking about Andromeda? They were pretty long, sure, but he gave a pretty thorough, neutral look at the game, he even said, iirc, that how Andromeda is for someone as a game is purely subjective (For him it would be equivalent to a 7/10). I thought the tagline of one of them was hilarious, "Mass Effect Andromeda, or as some claim, the Bubonic plague". Did I agree with him? Not always but for the most part yeah. Pretty good video.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 25, 2017 17:20:04 GMT
He said he's yet to see a bad line of dialogue, I mean come on now. This is the same person that said other people were exaggerating or lying with their opinions. But at the end of the day you're still calling someone's opinion a lie or an exaggeration. For example one of my friends likes the game, likes the tone etc. He thinks that Liam's loyalty mission is one of the best missions in the game. Another one of my friends thought that mission was terrible, corny, etc. That's just differing opinions based on personal taste. No one is lying or exaggerating anything, it's all subjective. ME:A could have easily avoided some of this by just making an dialogue option for Ryder dedicated to that tone like sarcastic Hawke. Too many times you were only given the bottom two options, so it was either professional or corny. How can those be the only two options for any answer ever? There should have been a real casual option. You're choosing to misread what it is I did say. I clearly acknowledge there were some cringy lines of dialogue, but I also said MANY of those lines were completely avoidable. What I said is that I had not encountered a line of dialogue that was delivered poorly by the VA, save for Jaal's crying scene. Big difference. Also, an exaggeration of a fact is not a "difference of opinion." The person who said that 99% of the side quests in the game were "boring tedious fetch quests" could not possibly list 198 fetch quests in this game. Since the total side quests in the game rests at 201, this is what it would take for them to be 99% fetch quests. That, my friend, is an exaggeration done for the purpose of misleading people into believing their "opinion" represents a greater portion of the game than it does. No, the person I was replying to when I lies and misinformation is what we're calling differing opinions nowadays is the one that said he hadn't seen a bad line of dialogue yet. I didn't say you said that.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 25, 2017 17:26:56 GMT
You're choosing to misread what it is I did say. I clearly acknowledge there were some cringy lines of dialogue, but I also said MANY of those lines were completely avoidable. What I said is that I had not encountered a line of dialogue that was delivered poorly by the VA, save for Jaal's crying scene. Big difference. Also, an exaggeration of a fact is not a "difference of opinion." The person who said that 99% of the side quests in the game were "boring tedious fetch quests" could not possibly list 198 fetch quests in this game. Since the total side quests in the game rests at 201, this is what it would take for them to be 99% fetch quests. That, my friend, is an exaggeration done for the purpose of misleading people into believing their "opinion" represents a greater portion of the game than it does. No, the person I was replying to when I lies and misinformation is what we're calling differing opinions nowadays is the one that said he hadn't seen a bad line of dialogue yet. I didn't say you said that. Well to be fair what is cringeworthy to one person may not be for another.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 25, 2017 17:29:37 GMT
No, the person I was replying to when I lies and misinformation is what we're calling differing opinions nowadays is the one that said he hadn't seen a bad line of dialogue yet. I didn't say you said that. Well to be fair what is cringeworthy to one person may not be for another. Well, that was my whole point from the start when I said it wasn't fair to call people with differing opinion liars. Especially when you're talking about something a subjective as dialogue.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 25, 2017 17:49:11 GMT
Well to be fair what is cringeworthy to one person may not be for another. Well, that was my whole point from the start when I said it wasn't fair to call people with differing opinion liars. Especially when you're talking about something a subjective as dialogue. On that part I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 18:10:14 GMT
You're choosing to misread what it is I did say. I clearly acknowledge there were some cringy lines of dialogue, but I also said MANY of those lines were completely avoidable. What I said is that I had not encountered a line of dialogue that was delivered poorly by the VA, save for Jaal's crying scene. Big difference. Also, an exaggeration of a fact is not a "difference of opinion." The person who said that 99% of the side quests in the game were "boring tedious fetch quests" could not possibly list 198 fetch quests in this game. Since the total side quests in the game rests at 201, this is what it would take for them to be 99% fetch quests. That, my friend, is an exaggeration done for the purpose of misleading people into believing their "opinion" represents a greater portion of the game than it does. No, the person I was replying to when I lies and misinformation is what we're calling differing opinions nowadays is the one that said he hadn't seen a bad line of dialogue yet. I didn't say you said that. Quoting you responding directly to my post (i.e. you quoted my post right above making the statement: So, want to try again to justify what you said?
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That just stupefies me, that the VA work could be considered bad. It was easily on par with anything else I've heard from other studios, including BW's other games. One thing BW is really good at and that's getting excellent VA's to voice their characters. People blatantly exaggerate to refuse give any positive points about the work of fiction they despise. Very true. Same situation with the statements about the writing. I've played through it four times and the dialogs solid. It may not appeal to certain people but that doesn't make it badly written. It just means they don't like it.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 25, 2017 18:50:16 GMT
People blatantly exaggerate to refuse give any positive points about the work of fiction they despise. Very true. Same situation with the statements about the writing. I've played through it four times and the dialogs solid. It may not appeal to certain people but that doesn't make it badly written. It just means they don't like it. As well considering ME trilogy has a lot of badly written dialogue, cringey lines and out of place one-liners, it's pretty damn weird complaint to have if you're also a massive fan of the trilogy.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 25, 2017 19:27:00 GMT
No, the person I was replying to when I lies and misinformation is what we're calling differing opinions nowadays is the one that said he hadn't seen a bad line of dialogue yet. I didn't say you said that. Quoting you responding directly to my post (i.e. you quoted my post right above making the statement: So, want to try again to justify what you said? That's a general statement. Like saying if you make one ending from the OT canon, you're still making some people play a story they didn't choose. You and others responded to something I said in response to someone else, don't know if you even read the post I responded to. So my responses are based on my original point to that person. If you go by what he said, you're (In general) calling a lot of peoples' opinions lies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 19:50:08 GMT
Quoting you responding directly to my post (i.e. you quoted my post right above making the statement: So, want to try again to justify what you said? That's a general statement. Like saying if you make one ending from the OT canon, you're still making some people play a story they didn't choose. You and others responded to something I said in response to someone else, don't know if you even read the post I responded to. So my responses are based on my original point to that person. If you go by what he said, you're (In general) calling a lot of peoples' opinions lies. I'll accept your explanation... only because using the second person in a general sense has been a bad habit of mine in the past. I've been really working on adjusting my writing style to avoid that sort of think. Under the circumstances, I don't think you can really blame me for taking your statement literally at face value.
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Post by glockwheeler on Jul 25, 2017 20:34:56 GMT
I am glad that many people like Andromeda. I, after two play throughs, cannot do a third. For whatever reason, I honestly do not care for the game as much as I had hoped I would. I found Archon to be a joke, as well as the Kett, overall. I hope Bioware goes forward with the Mass Effect franchise, as it really is special. I just found Andromeda to be lackluster in story compared to the original trilogy. I do find multi player to be pretty decent, though.
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Post by Guts on Jul 25, 2017 23:11:36 GMT
"I don't need luck, I have ammo." Ammo. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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