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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jul 25, 2017 4:54:24 GMT
I kind of feel like he's butthurt enough over this to not really GAF about player feedback anymore. I know he'll never post after quitting Reddit or even really tweet, but I don't get the sense he'll even be lurking. Just sort of written us off. With psychonanalytical posts like this, I don't blame him. Again, do you really expect them to just bend over backwards and act like the insults aren't there? What if the roles were reversed? Stop whiteknighting pls. You really missed the insults directed at us? Conspiracy nuts, must be your lame internet, lolnetcode - we no take seriously? The roles are reversed.
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Post by Scathane on Jul 25, 2017 4:58:47 GMT
If you come at me disrespectfully and claiming a false narrative in relation to me, you're damn right I'm going to throw it back at you or not want to even open dialogue with an angry person at all. Anybody can understand that. But when you replace the word 'person' in your sentence with 'customer', you're in a whole different ballpark. Not talking to angry customers might well mean they'll walk away, however right you may be as a company. Among other things, Billy said "there goes the validity of most of what you're saying - you're speaking in terms that only Kotaku would use". I mean, is this guy for real? People reporting things like off-host head shots (or rather, the lack thereof) isn't about proving or disproving claims, it's about listening to your customers and trying to help them out. At least it should be. Put in another way: What do you think would happen if the average EA Helpdesk peeps you talk to by mail and phone were to say stuff like this? Personally, I think they'd be out on their asses before the next working day...
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Post by squaredgonzo on Jul 25, 2017 13:58:48 GMT
Just a quick summary before you hand out your hot takes.
- Watched the stream (because I wanted to see if he would encounter issues that we encounter) - Enemies died way too fast, realized it was on lolbronze (maybe that's where they actually try and replicate? Idk). - Made comments about offhost issues and netcode. Was pissed and was about to call him out but I haven't verified my account so I just gave up. - Slept on it - Saw wavebend's post. - Comment about netcode is still arrogant and condescending. - Called him out for dismissing validity of reports if someone used the term "netcode" - He said he was taken out of context - Told him we just literally transcribed what he just said. - Got his head wrapped around the idea that I have an agenda and just deflected everything. - Gave up talking to him. - Posted a thread on reddit to find out if people with OP internet are experiencing offhost headahot issues. - Billy posted there, called me out for pushing a bogus agenda (trust me billy, I'm stupid therefore not capable of mind games - it's below me) - told him to stop pushing that shit to me, and stop being defensive. - Billy deleted his account
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 25, 2017 14:24:05 GMT
Just a quick summary before you hand out your hot takes. [snip snip] What's left out of this is any events unrelated to you, like Billy getting slammed everywhere (yes including here) for everything he says. You approached him at a bad time and become the straw that broke the camel's back. Another interesting factor, touched on by @jeremiah12lgeek (dammit why doesn't that @-mention ever work on his name), is that with the dispersal of conversation across multiple channels it is possible for people to be talking past each other and only reacting to a portion of the conversation. In this example there was some background rumbling about off-host headshots on reddit / BSN (2 channels), then Bioware was verbally asked about on official Bioware Twitch stream (3rd channel) and also in the Twitch stream chat windows (4th), there were Tweets about it to various devs (5th+ channels depending on if you count this as one channel or multiple), bug reports on EA Answers HQ (6th), then Billy talked about the off-host headshot issue on his personal Twitch stream verbally (7th) and responded verbally to text chat (8th), and then we had reactions to Billy's comments that showed up here (9th), reddit (10th), and Twitter (11th). Not to mention the terrible reddit thread-ing design makes it impossible to follow an entire conversation unless you are religious about checking every sub-paragraph. So a dozen different channels just to discuss one issue. Is it any wonder people are missing part of the conversation, coming in late, and then being confused?
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Post by crashsuit on Jul 25, 2017 16:10:32 GMT
@jeremiah12lgeek (dammit why doesn't that @-mention ever work on his name) Because that's his displayed name, but his actual user name is jeremiah12thlvlgeek.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 25, 2017 16:12:57 GMT
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