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Post by Psychevore on Jul 22, 2017 9:12:55 GMT
It's not like you ever misrepresented the sales figures, or the reception of this game, right? Like, neveeerrr everrrr. And maybe you should look around on the internet if you think this place is a vaccuum of positivity about ME:A. Because I see people begging for DLC on Twitter, largely positive topics on Reddit and so on. But you never misrepresent anything, right? Neverr, everrr. You see things through your Bioware tinted glasses. I believe in everything I've posted - I think a lot of you do too or you wouldn't attempt to derail every thread I create. If what I'm posting is so ridiculous, I'd think you wouldn't bother to post a response in the first place - the fact that many of you do - is telling. I'm confident enough in my stance to avoid the positive threads because I see them for what they are - the same clearly cannot be said for some of Andromeda's defenders. I'm sure you believe in everything you post. Doesn't make it right or true in any way, shape or form though. Tell me again how the United States is the only country in the world that buys video games, Suikoden. Come on, you can do it. And seriously man, what is this ridiculous reasoning: 'you say I'm wrong, so I must be right'? That's borderline insane.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 22, 2017 9:29:23 GMT
You see things through your Bioware tinted glasses. I believe in everything I've posted - I think a lot of you do too or you wouldn't attempt to derail every thread I create. If what I'm posting is so ridiculous, I'd think you wouldn't bother to post a response in the first place - the fact that many of you do - is telling. I'm confident enough in my stance to avoid the positive threads because I see them for what they are - the same clearly cannot be said for some of Andromeda's defenders. I'm sure you believe in everything you post. Doesn't make it right or true in any way, shape or form though. Tell me again how the United States is the only country in the world that buys video games, Suikoden. Come on, you can do it. And seriously man, what is this ridiculous reasoning: 'you say I'm wrong, so I must be right'? That's borderline insane. From my perspective, all signs clearly point to Andromeda selling poorly and DLC being cancelled as a result. The NPD results are just a part of that. There's also the Kotaku reports. The silence on EA/Bioware's part. The amount of time that's already past. Mac's mea culpa on his twitter right after release followed by his complete disappearance. The free trials and how long they're available. The continual focus on multiplayer. The contrast between EA speaking about Inquisition vs Andromeda. The bargain-basement sales throughout the past 4 months. The mediocre reviews and reception to the game. It's a big list. If I was a fan of the game and saw all of this happening I'd be very defensive as well.
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Post by Psychevore on Jul 22, 2017 9:41:19 GMT
I'm sure you believe in everything you post. Doesn't make it right or true in any way, shape or form though. Tell me again how the United States is the only country in the world that buys video games, Suikoden. Come on, you can do it. And seriously man, what is this ridiculous reasoning: 'you say I'm wrong, so I must be right'? That's borderline insane. From my perspective, all signs clearly point to Andromeda selling poorly and DLC being cancelled as a result. The NPD results are just a part of that. There's also the Kotaku reports. The silence on EA/Bioware's part. The amount of time that's already past. Mac's mea culpa on his twitter right after release followed by his complete disappearance. The free trials and how long they're available. The continual focus on multiplayer. The contrast between EA speaking about Inquisition vs Andromeda. The bargain-basement sales throughout the past 4 months. The mediocre reviews and reception to the game. It's a big list. If I was a fan of the game and saw all of this happening I'd be very defensive as well. We've had lengthy discussions about the NPD figures. It's exacly where my comment about you thinking the US being the only country bying games comes from. The Kotaku reports are hilarious. Maybe they should edit it once more. EA/Bioware is always silent. The amount of time that has passed is right on par with Bioware's normal DLC strategy (ignoring day 1 DLC like Javik), where they release DLC after about 5-6 months with little to no marketing. They announce the DLC and you're playing it 1-2 days later. The continual focus on MP has been a thing since ME3 and continued through DA:I. These games got plenty DLC. What contrast? What bargain-basement sales? Again, this is something we already discussed. You claimed the game was off by ridiculous amounts, a single google search proved you factually wrong and a goddamn liar. You have absolutely nothing but a craving to spend a significant portion of your life bitching about a game you've only played the trial version of.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 22, 2017 9:48:01 GMT
From my perspective, all signs clearly point to Andromeda selling poorly and DLC being cancelled as a result. The NPD results are just a part of that. There's also the Kotaku reports. The silence on EA/Bioware's part. The amount of time that's already past. Mac's mea culpa on his twitter right after release followed by his complete disappearance. The free trials and how long they're available. The continual focus on multiplayer. The contrast between EA speaking about Inquisition vs Andromeda. The bargain-basement sales throughout the past 4 months. The mediocre reviews and reception to the game. It's a big list. If I was a fan of the game and saw all of this happening I'd be very defensive as well. We've had lengthy discussions about the NPD figures. It's exacly where my comment about you thinking the US being the only country bying games comes from. The Kotaku reports are hilarious. Maybe they should edit it once more. EA/Bioware is always silent. The amount of time that has passed is right on par with Bioware's normal DLC strategy (ignoring day 1 DLC like Javik), where they release DLC after about 5-6 months with little to no marketing. They announce the DLC and you're playing it 1-2 days later. The continual focus on MP has been a thing since ME3 and continued through DA:I. These games got plenty DLC. What contrast? What bargain-basement sales? Again, this is something we already discussed. You claimed the game was off by ridiculous amounts, a single google search proved you factually wrong and a goddamn liar. You have absolutely nothing but a craving to spend a significant portion of your life bitching about a game you've only played the trial version of. The game's been on sale since it's release week. If you google around it's been 50% off at various outlets for the past month. It's 20$ right now in Canada... Each item in that list might seem unlikely on it's own, but put it all together, and it carries weight.
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Post by Psychevore on Jul 22, 2017 10:44:41 GMT
We've had lengthy discussions about the NPD figures. It's exacly where my comment about you thinking the US being the only country bying games comes from. The Kotaku reports are hilarious. Maybe they should edit it once more. EA/Bioware is always silent. The amount of time that has passed is right on par with Bioware's normal DLC strategy (ignoring day 1 DLC like Javik), where they release DLC after about 5-6 months with little to no marketing. They announce the DLC and you're playing it 1-2 days later. The continual focus on MP has been a thing since ME3 and continued through DA:I. These games got plenty DLC. What contrast? What bargain-basement sales? Again, this is something we already discussed. You claimed the game was off by ridiculous amounts, a single google search proved you factually wrong and a goddamn liar. You have absolutely nothing but a craving to spend a significant portion of your life bitching about a game you've only played the trial version of. The game's been on sale since it's release week. If you google around it's been 50% off at various outlets for the past month. It's 20$ right now in Canada... Each item in that list might seem unlikely on it's own, but put it all together, and it carries weight. No it hasn't, stop lying. Yes, lets ignore that the individual items don't hold up to scrutiny, because I'm sure if you put them together it somehow becomes true. Stop being ridiculous.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 22, 2017 16:06:52 GMT
The game's been on sale since it's release week. If you google around it's been 50% off at various outlets for the past month. It's 20$ right now in Canada... Each item in that list might seem unlikely on it's own, but put it all together, and it carries weight. No it hasn't, stop lying. Yes, lets ignore that the individual items don't hold up to scrutiny, because I'm sure if you put them together it somehow becomes true. Stop being ridiculous. It's like evidence in a trial. I forgot to mention the Eurogamer article adding to the Kotaku article as well. And it's not lying just because you don't agree - that kind of language also does nothing to stir debate, it's merely inflammatory and rude.
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Post by DragonRacer on Jul 22, 2017 18:33:54 GMT
I am temporarily locking this thread so that tempers can calm down and I can clean up this lovely mess y'all have left for me.
This in-fighting between the game haters and the game likers needs to stop. Seriously. Y'all are having the same damn arguments every single day that lead to the same place - personal insults and attacking posters. It needs to stop. If it doesn't, threads will be permanently locked and bans may be handed out to ALL offending parties.
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Post by DragonRacer on Jul 22, 2017 18:51:13 GMT
Okay. In good faith, I am going to reopen this thread.
It is for discussing EA Gamescom. If you can't handle that like adults, then you need to take arguments to PM or place users on block.
Do not instigate or bait people who you KNOW are on the opposite side of the fence from you. At this point, whether you like the game or you don't, your point is ABUNDANTLY clear. It's not gonna sway the other side. All you are doing is creating the same fights with the same people every day. And honestly - this is directed at multiple people on both sides of the argument. STOP THROWING FECES AT EACH OTHER.
My moderation patience is quickly wearing thin. I suggest y'all not keep pushing it.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 22, 2017 18:59:00 GMT
Okay. In good faith, I am going to reopen this thread. It is for discussing EA Gamescom. If you can't handle that like adults, then you need to take arguments to PM or place users on block. Do not instigate or bait people who you KNOW are on the opposite side of the fence from you. At this point, whether you like the game or you don't, your point is ABUNDANTLY clear. It's not gonna sway the other side. All you are doing is creating the same fights with the same people every day. And honestly - this is directed at multiple people on both sides of the argument. STOP THROWING FECES AT EACH OTHER. My moderation patience is quickly wearing thin. I suggest y'all not keep pushing it. So what constitutes as "attacking" another poster? Simply disagreeing with them? I mean, you associate attacking a person's viewpoint the same as attacking a person?
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Post by shechinah on Jul 22, 2017 19:09:46 GMT
So can anyone tell me what was showcased or talked about at the conference?
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Post by DragonRacer on Jul 22, 2017 19:11:58 GMT
Okay. In good faith, I am going to reopen this thread. It is for discussing EA Gamescom. If you can't handle that like adults, then you need to take arguments to PM or place users on block. Do not instigate or bait people who you KNOW are on the opposite side of the fence from you. At this point, whether you like the game or you don't, your point is ABUNDANTLY clear. It's not gonna sway the other side. All you are doing is creating the same fights with the same people every day. And honestly - this is directed at multiple people on both sides of the argument. STOP THROWING FECES AT EACH OTHER. My moderation patience is quickly wearing thin. I suggest y'all not keep pushing it. So what constitutes as "attacking" another poster? Simply disagreeing with them? I mean, you associate attacking a person's viewpoint the same as attacking a person? When people start calling each other assholes, insulting each other's intelligence (instead of arguing the post itself or the contents of the post) and creating gifs using specific users' names in a harassing manner, that's when I'd say it's devolved into personal attacks. Which is what I largely needed to clean up in not one but two different threads today. Posts that ended up quoting that sort of content also got swept away.
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Post by Psychevore on Jul 22, 2017 19:15:32 GMT
No it hasn't, stop lying. Yes, lets ignore that the individual items don't hold up to scrutiny, because I'm sure if you put them together it somehow becomes true. Stop being ridiculous. It's like evidence in a trial. I forgot to mention the Eurogamer article adding to the Kotaku article as well. And it's not lying just because you don't agree - that kind of language also does nothing to stir debate, it's merely inflammatory and rude. Your 'evidence' is either faulty, bogus, hearsay or conjecture. It would not hold up in a trial. Half of those are usually lies btw. Whether you like that or not isn't really relevant.
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Post by Chiantirose on Jul 22, 2017 19:16:03 GMT
So can anyone tell me what was showcased or talked about at the conference? This thread is about Gamescom, which isn't until August 21. If you're talking about SDCC that is going on right now, I don't think we heard anything new.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 22, 2017 19:19:35 GMT
So can anyone tell me what was showcased or talked about at the conference? People colored in a big poster. (at SDCC) It was DLC. Drawing-led content
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Post by malgus on Jul 22, 2017 20:40:36 GMT
So can anyone tell me what was showcased or talked about at the conference? People colored in a big poster. (at SDCC) It was DLC. Drawing-led content Cool
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Post by anarchy65 on Jul 22, 2017 20:41:34 GMT
Suikoden, please... play the game. Find the areas you disliked and write about them. That's helpful. Kicking BioWare is also fine by me... once you made your point. Your point is made. To the point now, that I want to literally headbutt you. You're funny. You are funny, but stop being mean. You can be real funny and provide great sources of entertainment. It's four months... and you're still at it. That's not commendable. Do better. Please. More than anything, what drives me the most, is how many people are "settling" for the mediocrity that is Andromeda. Even praising it for it's faults - shunning all critical thinking And attempts at dialogue. Constructive criticism veiled in "Andromeda is teh best thing ever" isn't doing the devs any favours. I want them to hear loud and clear that they fucked up and that this lack of quality is not acceptable.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 22, 2017 20:48:47 GMT
More than anything, what drives me the most, is how many people are "settling" for the mediocrity that is Andromeda. Even praising it for it's faults - shunning all critical thinking And attempts at dialogue. Constructive criticism veiled in "Andromeda is teh best thing ever" isn't doing the devs any favours. I want them to hear loud and clear that they fucked up and that this lack of quality is not acceptable.He should be tweaking them on Twitter then if he wants to be heard. Bioware shut down their forums, this place is just an unofficial fan site.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 22, 2017 20:52:53 GMT
He should be tweaking them on Twitter then if he wants to be heard. Bioware shut down their forums, this place is just an unofficial fan site. How many thousand unique visitors did the mods say come here everyday? It's more than would see any tweet I sent out which would just get buried amongst the sea of similar tweets.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jul 22, 2017 20:53:09 GMT
He should be tweaking them on Twitter then if he wants to be heard. Bioware shut down their forums, this place is just an unofficial fan site. I'm pretty sure there are Bioware staff looking in this forum.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 22, 2017 20:59:45 GMT
He should be tweaking them on Twitter then if he wants to be heard. Bioware shut down their forums, this place is just an unofficial fan site. How many thousand unique visitors did the mods say come here everyday? It's more than would see any tweet I sent out which would just get buried amongst the sea of similar tweets. Well then they've heard you by now, right?
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Post by anarchy65 on Jul 22, 2017 21:04:39 GMT
How many thousand unique visitors did the mods say come here everyday? It's more than would see any tweet I sent out which would just get buried amongst the sea of similar tweets. Well then they've heard you by now, right? Since most people are actually praising the game's failures, I don't think they're hearing what they should hear, no.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 22, 2017 21:07:53 GMT
Well then they've heard you by now, right? Since most people are actually praising the game's failures, I don't think they're hearing what they should hear, no. There's been plenty of negative threads over the last five months or so, so that argument doesn't really hold water, based on your previous argument that this is the best place to give the Bioware/EA folks feedback.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 22, 2017 21:09:31 GMT
How many thousand unique visitors did the mods say come here everyday? It's more than would see any tweet I sent out which would just get buried amongst the sea of similar tweets. Well then they've heard you by now, right? 2) If anyone has an issue with that, the best response is not to post and instead post in threads you are interested in.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 22, 2017 21:12:09 GMT
Well then they've heard you by now, right? 2) If anyone has an issue with that, the best response is not to post and instead post in threads you are interested in. No, that's an entirely different subject. With this statement, you're talking about how your feedback has affected your fellow BSN'ers. What we were talking about is what you stated as your motivation - to inform EA/Bioware that they screwed up. If this place is as great as you make it out to be to give them feedback - they've heard you loud and clear by now. So, mission accomplished?
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