More likely that we're heading back to the Milky Way?

Maybe I was too enthusiastic. I just don't see it working with ME. I wouldn't want to explore a destroyed galaxy.

Still while that would be interesting, Andromeda interests me more.

Andromeda has more secrets to be unveiled.

In the end, I didn't get the impression that the kett were really the big thing in that galaxy. Whatever created the scourge and even the jaardan themselves seem like much bigger deals than the gene stealers. 

And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have the main reason ME:A received so much abuse.

Note it's nothing to do with the actual game mind; our poster here hasn't even played past the first vault of Eos.

We're back to the toys out of the pram tantrum over the endings to a computer game from over 5 years ago. It's all a bit sad really.

...I think none of this is very likely. After DLC I doubt I'll care much about the next ME game...IF it is ever released, I'll probably be all old and feeble...and my VR system won't be compatible or some such...because "putting ME on hold" as the devs. say, generally tells me there won't be more.

Maybe in 10 years they'll remaster the trilogy...

I hope not. I played the OT, I loved the OT and the lore and the characters, but not going to lie that part of the appeal of it (I played once all three were released) is that it was a complete story that ended. Is that weird? I made my choice, the relays went all RGB, my Shepard of the moment did or did not die, story over. Time to move on. I don't want to see the endings retconned into one official choice and I don't want to see how the galaxy pulled itself together afterwards because I mean, spoilers: it did. Andromeda is something new. It has a lot of problems, but I still think it was a step in the right direction and BW should keep moving that way.

Actually, I expected the game to do a lot better than it did. I expected them to fuck up the story big time, but not the gameplay. I projected the game would land somewhere between 80 and 85 on Metacritic. But this was before the extent of the technical issues and their ill-advised gameplay designs were known.



Hating a game because its story setting is stupid and ill-conceived is a legitimate gripe to have. I would have hated it even without the ME3 endings simply because of how it violated the trilogy's lore to enable the retarded exodus to Andromeda.

With that said, knowing they pushed this asinine setting to protect Super MAC's darling endings just adds insult to injury.

I agree... Bioware fit it in better than I ever thought they could... And really, it's sort of silly to assume that, in an entire galaxy of well over 40 billion in entire population (of which the Trilogy exposed us to very few of them) that enough resources to fund 5 arks and 1 Citadel-like structure could not be acquired when Shepard on a single ship alone is able to find/mine enough in ME2 to potentially allocate 100 Mineral War Assets to that galactic cause (which requires only a little over 3,000 War Assets to apparently field a whole massive fleet to "win" the Reaper War.  It's also, IMO, equally silly to stubbornly cling to the assumption that those few ships could not possibly be constructed without their being mentioned among the rather small circle of people we are exposed to in the old Trilogy... as if we would ever actually know what even a fraction of those 40+ billion minds were up to during ME1 and ME2.  I also think it's rather silly to assume that all those people were content with just using the Citadel and the Mass Relays without trying to dissect and better understand the tech behind them and possibly develop different tech themselves.

It was also obvious from the galaxy map that all regions of the Milky Way galaxy had been explored since the settled regions were spread over the entire area.  That is, there was no gaping "hole" on the GM marked "unknown."  Sure, there were lots of individual planets left for which we had not been individual codex entries; but that doesn't necessarily mean that some of the 40"+ billion people in the galaxy had not, at some time, explored those areas and already found them to be uninhabitable.

Basically, it's silly to not believe Bioware when they've been saying for 5 years that Shepard's story was complete, done, finished... and continue to try to prevent Bioware from moving the franchise forward in new directions.  It's even sillier to be still trying to force that issue now after Andromeda was released... thinking somehow that the failure of Andromeda would cause them to pou even more money into the franchise to redo the Trilogy.  If the franchise can't survive by going forward in Andromeda and now completing the story they''ve started there, then it is most likely dead in the minds of EA execs; and there is even less hope than ever of them investing more money to remake the Trilogy in any way, shape, or form.

I'm not going to bother asking why you think MEA violated all ME lore etc as it sounds like you've made your mind up about that, but I do have to admit that you're being unrealistic if you genuinely expected the above kind of setting to work as a sequel.

For one thing, most of the interesting questions that are posed by such a setting are totally out of the scope of even a new trilogy - the question of whether or not the Reapers/Catalyst were correct and that civilisation would destroy itself is something that would suit a 4X game like Stellaris, not third person RPG - it would take millenia for those questions to be answered. You'd have to have some massive time jump - either the game starting so far ahead in the future we might as well not be in the MW, or a mid-game jump that would radically alter the game universe. Even if we just limit ourselves to rebuilding... what then? A galaxy without Mass Relays (which isn't actually the case, I can't remember if your arbitrary stance declares the EC DLC to be non-canon or not) and no new species would essentially just be MEA without any new stuff.

Arguing that a Milky Way post-Reaper War is a 'wild and untamed galaxy' but Andromeda is apparently not (to fit your 'no apparent reason' caveat) doesn't make any sense.

Agreed. His argument makes no sense.

Yes, please, just set a canon ending, move 193010299 years into the future, make awesome game. Andromeda has some potential but I would not be mad if they left that story as a spinoff.


But I know that won't happen because BW would rather redo all of the animations once again than go back now.