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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
Of course, when they state that 34% of their console sales are digital, that doesn't mean "exactly 34% for each game". Xbox One also likely has a significant portion of its sales as digital, given EA Access and the early trial. And people who bought the game after the recent trial most likely went digital rather than physical. EA obviously isn't into exact numbers, but it is a safe bet that more than 34% of Andromeda's console sales were digital. It is at least likely to be closer since the figure does account for "full game" sales and does not include items, such as DLC. I know my pattern is that I buy the game as a disc, but then just download any DLC digitally through Xbox Live. I did know some people who used to go back to the store and get purchase codes so that they could download DLC without actually entering credit card info, but that's getting rarer as more people have either become less squimish about such things or set up alternative accounts, such as paypal. The real bottom line here is that we really don't have enough information to accurately fill in the blanks either way. I also don't see why anyone should be flipping out either way either. The only real strategy here is just to wait to see when/if a DLC is announced. On a positive note, there is absolutely no indication in the report that EA is upset over ME:A sales figures. Chances are good then that, for Bioware, it's pretty much business as usual. With the Edmonton Journal article about Bioware seeking payroll related tax credits in Alberta back in March: edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mass-effect-maker-bioware-pushing-for-alberta-tax-credit-1.3307329This may be a reason for them scaling back the Bioware Montreal office that has nothing to do with ME:A sales. That is, Bioware may now find it cheaper to employ people in Edmonton because the Alberta government may be chipping in a tax-credit portion now.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 28, 2017 13:59:05 GMT
Of course, when they state that 34% of their console sales are digital, that doesn't mean "exactly 34% for each game". Xbox One also likely has a significant portion of its sales as digital, given EA Access and the early trial. And people who bought the game after the recent trial most likely went digital rather than physical. EA obviously isn't into exact numbers, but it is a safe bet that more than 34% of Andromeda's console sales were digital. 100% correct. Nice analysis. Games that have heavier PC followings, especially games like MEA where certain editions were only available as digital copies, along with the digital early access with discount to the base game if buying through the digital service, I think it's reasonable to assume that MEA's digital sales were higher than EA's average. What it actually was, I can't say. Assuming 80% of copies sold were digital is probably pushing it. But closer to 50%, as I've seen other reports from other developers stating digital is overtaking physical copies, seems reasonable.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 14:19:24 GMT
People here were calling him a "cunt" a "douche" a liar, etc. I don't blame him one bit. However,, my avatar WAS copied by him to Twitter and the worst I called him was "unprofessional." I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to still think that his actions in that regard were indeed both "childish and unprofessional." I do blame him for his own actions... he should take full responsibility for them. You mean he took a screen shot of your (and some other's) posts and mocked them mildly. Oh no. Some of those posts were well deserving of mockery. Not saying yours were - I no longer remember who said what. But some folks here were really acting like asshats in reaction to his articles. Jason was already loathed here by many before he started posting screenshots to twitter because he was the bearer of news that people didn't want to hear. This is evident by the fact that, weeks later, people are still criticizing him for things he never said. I don't know Jason, and I hope ME:A gets awesome story DLC, but the way many here have treated him irks me.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 14:21:33 GMT
Yeah, I, too, can completely blame him. That shit with the Twitter posts was, and still is, shit. My feeling is, if he has something to say to the forum members he can create an account and start a discussion. But ghosting the forum so he can post screenshots to his Twitter feed? Nah. I have no respect for that. People here were calling him a "cunt" a "douche" a liar, etc. I don't blame him one bit. Liar I'll believe. Maybe even douche. Hats that fit and all of that. But cunt? No, that one I never saw. Not once. So unless you're projecting, and I wouldn't blame you, I call shenanigans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 14:21:58 GMT
However,, my avatar WAS copied by him to Twitter and the worst I called him was "unprofessional." I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to still think that his actions in that regard were indeed both "childish and unprofessional." I do blame him for his own actions... he should take full responsibility for them. You mean he took a screen shot of your (and some other's) posts and mocked them mildly. Oh no. Some of those posts were well deserving of mockery. Not saying yours were - I no longer remember who said what. But some folks here were really acting like asshats in reaction to his articles. Jason was already loathed here by many before he started posting screenshots to twitter because he was the bearer of news that people didn't want to hear. This is evident by the fact that, weeks later, people are still criticizing him for things he never said. I don't know Jason, and I hope ME:A gets awesome story DLC, but the way many here have treated him irks me. ... and you're over dramatizing my reaction -exaggerating it for your own purpose (a common tactic here). I called him "unprofessional" and I do consider his reaction to that to be "unprofessional." I'm certainly not "oh no", etc. Suikoden has also earned at least some of the disrespect people show him here. He does "insult" people... e.g. by calling them "rabble" as above. He also should know from past experiences that some people will "react" strongly to such things. Piece of advice - If he wants' to earn back some respect, he should make some effort to just not include such off-hand insults in his posts.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 14:26:33 GMT
People here were calling him a "cunt" a "douche" a liar, etc. I don't blame him one bit. Liar I'll believe. Maybe even douche. Hats that fit and all of that. But cunt? No, that one I never saw. Not once. So unless you're projecting, and I wouldn't blame you, I call shenanigans. Doubt me if you want, but both quoted words were used to describe JS in one or more of the many, many threads on this topic. And no, I'm not going to go back and search for it. Sorry.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 14:28:49 GMT
You mean he took a screen shot of your (and some other's) posts and mocked them mildly. Oh no. Some of those posts were well deserving of mockery. Not saying yours were - I no longer remember who said what. But some folks here were really acting like asshats in reaction to his articles. Jason was already loathed here by many before he started posting screenshots to twitter because he was the bearer of news that people didn't want to hear. This is evident by the fact that, weeks later, people are still criticizing him for things he never said. I don't know Jason, and I hope ME:A gets awesome story DLC, but the way many here have treated him irks me. ... and you're over dramatizing my reaction -exaggerating it for your own purpose (a common tactic here). I called him "unprofessional" and I do consider his reaction to that to be "unprofessional." I'm certainly not "oh no, etc. I wasn't using "oh no" to describe your reaction. I was attempting (perhaps poorly) to be sarcastic, meaning that I didn't think his mild chiding of BSN members was in any way a big deal, especially in the face of the reactions he was getting here.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 14:34:43 GMT
Liar I'll believe. Maybe even douche. Hats that fit and all of that. But cunt? No, that one I never saw. Not once. So unless you're projecting, and I wouldn't blame you, I call shenanigans. Doubt me if you want, but both quoted words were used to describe JS in one or more of the many, many threads on this topic. And no, I'm not going to go back and search for it. Sorry. Oh, I do strongly doubt, since I was often involved in those threads, and, no, I don't really care if you go search for them. Think what you will.
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... and you're over dramatizing my reaction -exaggerating it for your own purpose (a common tactic here). I called him "unprofessional" and I do consider his reaction to that to be "unprofessional." I'm certainly not "oh no, etc. I wasn't using "oh no" to describe your reaction. I was attempting (perhaps poorly) to be sarcastic, meaning that I didn't think his mild chiding of BSN members was in any way a big deal, especially in the face of the reactions he was getting here. It was unprofessional... as was his rant about his article on Facebook. As is a long dissertation he gave about the weather on the podcast he aired around the time of ME:A's launch. There are many individuals in the gaming media whose behavior I consider to be unprofessional. That lack of professionalism reflects in the amount of errors that appear in their reports, notwithstanding that most of their journalism actually consists of "editorializing" (i.e. giving their own opinions on things - often through means of sensationalizing them - exaggerated memes, for example) rather than actually reporting gaming news. I have absolutely 0 respect for the gaming media at this point... They've well earned that level of distain from me. The ball is in their court... I'll stop calling them on being "unprofessional" when they start behaving "professionally." If Schrier is one of the more reputable reporters in that news industry... it really has a long, long way to go to climb out of the journalistic hole they've dug for themselves.
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Post by sil on Jul 28, 2017 14:44:00 GMT
I agree, I have no respect for the gaming media and am attempting to steer away from visiting them anymore. Not very successfully, I might add, but I'm trying.
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Post by cobalt72 on Jul 28, 2017 15:04:40 GMT
Huh, so you're saying that sports games and FPS which are generally a lot more popular and mainstream would get mentioned More? Tell me more!!
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 15:05:50 GMT
Doubt me if you want, but both quoted words were used to describe JS in one or more of the many, many threads on this topic. And no, I'm not going to go back and search for it. Sorry. Oh, I do strongly doubt, since I was often involved in those threads, and, no, I don't really care if you go search for them. Think what you will. Okay, I lied...about not searching the boards. Apparently BSN has a more robust search feature than I imagined. Here is the post I saw where JS was called a cunt.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 28, 2017 15:08:51 GMT
Yeah, I, too, can completely blame him. That shit with the Twitter posts was, and still is, shit. My feeling is, if he has something to say to the forum members he can create an account and start a discussion. But ghosting the forum so he can post screenshots to his Twitter feed? Nah. I have no respect for that. People here were calling him a "cunt" a "douche" a liar, etc. I don't blame him one bit. Two wrongs don't make a right, something both sides fail at even to this day. I will say media thrives on this attention, and people have yet to learn to drop it.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 28, 2017 15:10:27 GMT
Explicitly noted Andromeda as a "significant contributer" to their sales figures. " Significant contributer". Lumped in. This is the point where, in a cartoon, there would be a visible trickle of melted brain running out of your ear. In comparison, the day the DLC is announced would be explosive torrents that'd put a Blastoise to shame. Significant contributor could mean anything. It could contribute 10% of digital sales and this would make it a significant contributor. It's all legalese to shelter Bioware from more scorn while they work on what EA hopes is the next Overwatch. Seeing as there's no sales numbers, and no exhaltation of sales a la Inquisition... Game underperformed. I'm curious as to why you think it "underperformed". Bioware released an unfinished game surrounded by rumours of a rocky production. I imagine EA and Bioware's expectations of the games' performance were realistic. As to "significant contribution"...significant means noteworthy and remarkable. It seems like it performed far better than expected.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 15:11:36 GMT
Oh, I do strongly doubt, since I was often involved in those threads, and, no, I don't really care if you go search for them. Think what you will. Okay, I lied...about not searching the boards. Apparently BSN has a more robust search feature than I imagined. Here is the post I saw where JS was called a cunt. Well, I'll be damned. Mea culpa, apparently someone did call him a cunt.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 28, 2017 15:12:39 GMT
Bioware games have always been underdogs, they simply don't reach out to as much as fps games would, the sport games I will never understand since they just upgrade rosters every year and that's pretty much it. You could get Biowares best title ever and it won't even come close to most fps games out there. in short: there's a lot less people interested into RPG/RPG hybrids than there are for fps, sports and moba games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 15:13:30 GMT
Oh, I do strongly doubt, since I was often involved in those threads, and, no, I don't really care if you go search for them. Think what you will. Okay, I lied...about not searching the boards. Apparently BSN has a more robust search feature than I imagined. Here is the post I saw where JS was called a cunt. ... and I believe that, if you research a little deeper, you'll find that post was created after he had already posted the screenshots of various people here to Twitter, so he was not reacting to that post when he chose to take that action. The thread where much of this started was the one about the Hoax (which was moved to the articles section).
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 15:14:12 GMT
Well, I'll be damned. Mea culpa, apparently someone did call him a cunt.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 15:16:26 GMT
... and I believe that, if you research a little deeper, you'll find that post was created after he had already posted the screenshots of various people here to Twitter. And it's not as viscous as I would have thought, the "self-absorbed" part makes it more an observation, but he's still correct. Someone did call jibberjabber a cunt.
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Post by warrior on Jul 28, 2017 15:16:38 GMT
Bioware games have always been underdogs, they simply don't reach out to as much as fps games would, the sport games I will never understand since they just upgrade rosters every year and that's pretty much it. You could get Biowares best title ever and it won't even come close to most fps games out there. in short: there's a lot less people interested into RPG/RPG hybrids than there are for fps, sports and moba games. yah that's why I thought MEA being mentioned in the same breath as FIFA was a good sign for it
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 15:17:07 GMT
... and I believe that, if you research a little deeper, you'll find that post was created after he had already posted the screenshots of various people here to Twitter. You're right, that's a fair point. But it's also true that there was plenty of over-the-top criticism of JS and his articles here prior to the twitter shenanigans. Just not this particular example.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 15:19:52 GMT
... and I believe that, if you research a little deeper, you'll find that post was created after he had already posted the screenshots of various people here to Twitter. You're right, that's a fair point. But it's also true that there was plenty of over-the-top criticism of JS and his articles here prior to the twitter shenanigans. Just not this particular example. I'm also going to note that the quote you inserted is not outright calling him "a cunt." It's put in a far more mild context - "He seems to be..." The person in that quote is stating their impression, not outright calling him a name. Big difference in my book.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 15:25:47 GMT
You're right, that's a fair point. But it's also true that there was plenty of over-the-top criticism of JS and his articles here prior to the twitter shenanigans. Just not this particular example. I'm also going to note that the quote you inserted is not outright calling him "a cunt." It's put in a far more mild context - "It seems to me..." The person in that quote is stating their impression, not outright calling him a name. Big difference in my book. That does not seem like an especially helpful distinction to make, IMO. But going further down this road would be getting into hair-splitting, "how many cunts could dance on the tip of Garrus' sniper rifle" territory, so I'm going to drop it.
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