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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 15:32:06 GMT
I'm also going to note that the quote you inserted is not outright calling him "a cunt." It's put in a far more mild context - "It seems to me..." The person in that quote is stating their impression, not outright calling him a name. Big difference in my book. That does not seem like an especially helpful distinction to make, IMO. But going further down this road would be getting into hair-splitting, "how many cunts could dance on the tip of Garrus' sniper rifle" territory, so I'm going to drop it. My impression of anyone can be anything without them actually being that thing... and by saying as much, the poster is actually acknowledging that he/she may be mistaken in their impression. I think it is an important distinction to make here.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 15:34:43 GMT
Not sure if it's been brought up, but did anyone catch this bit from the Q&A about Bioware Montreal? Note: OpEx = Operating Expense Interesting. That all tracks with the previous comments that the Montreal team is working on SW:BF2 alongside the Motive team. Okay, I gotta know. Where did you get the transcript from? It's still not up on the EA IR site.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 28, 2017 15:35:12 GMT
It's great to watch the anti-Andromeda trolldom desperately try to make up excuses for the game selling well. It's almost like actual quality wins out over a bunch of delusional crap being spouted about the game and a bunch of soulless hacks in gaming journalism pandering to people who harass and threaten developers and fans of games they don't like. Except sales and quality are two different things. MEA probably sold on the trilogy's past glory. Which is probably why EA gave the franchise to the B team in the first place. No matter the result, the game would sell by name alone. While MEA is a terrible Mass Effect game and an OK game by itself to me, it's a good thing for Bioware if EA is happy with the sales figures. AndI guess by extension that makes me somewhat glad too now that Casey Hudson is back and I have the tiniest sliver of hope that their next game will be better again.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 15:36:25 GMT
Not sure if it's been brought up, but did anyone catch this bit from the Q&A about Bioware Montreal? Don't know if BioWare Montreal was located somewhere else previously, but currently, BioWare Montreal and Motive are in the same building. One's on the floor right above the other.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 15:37:16 GMT
MEA probably sold on the trilogy's past glory. It's cute when people whining about how they can't stand Andromeda not being exactly what they wanted have to spout this lame excuse.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 28, 2017 15:37:53 GMT
That does not seem like an especially helpful distinction to make, IMO. But going further down this road would be getting into hair-splitting, "how many cunts could dance on the tip of Garrus' sniper rifle" territory, so I'm going to drop it. My impression of anyone can be anything without them actually being that thing... and by saying as much, the poster is actually acknowledging that he/she may be mistaken in their impression. I think it is an important distinction to make here. My preference would be that we just not call people cunts at all. And by we, I don't mean BSN. I mean in general.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 15:59:09 GMT
My impression of anyone can be anything without them actually being that thing... and by saying as much, the poster is actually acknowledging that he/she may be mistaken in their impression. I think it is an important distinction to make here. My preference would be that we justI wholeheartedly agree. It still won't prevent people by having such impressions in their own minds... just might stop them from saying it out loud. not call people cunts at all. And by we, I don't mean BSN. I mean in general. I agree... and that's why I personally refrain from using the term myself here or anywhere else. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to prevent people from lumping me in with others here and saddling us with demeaning terms of their own (like "rabble")... and it hasn't stopped you from continuing to defend him and his actions despite all of that.
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Post by sil on Jul 28, 2017 16:06:47 GMT
Not sure if it's been brought up, but did anyone catch this bit from the Q&A about Bioware Montreal? Don't know if BioWare Montreal was located somewhere else previously, but currently, BioWare Montreal and Motive are in the same building. One's on the floor right above the other. And for those who will take that as Bioware Montreal no longer working on Andromeda, just remember that companies can share the same building without all working on the same projects.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 28, 2017 16:13:29 GMT
Not sure if it's been brought up, but did anyone catch this bit from the Q&A about Bioware Montreal? Note: OpEx = Operating Expense Interesting. That all tracks with the previous comments that the Montreal team is working on SW:BF2 alongside the Motive team. Okay, I gotta know. Where did you get the transcript from? It's still not up on the EA IR site. I have access to some paid sites through my job that provide transcripts of earnings calls, so I don't think I can help you there.
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Post by kino on Jul 28, 2017 16:14:56 GMT
Interesting. That all tracks with the previous comments that the Montreal team is working on SW:BF2 alongside the Motive team. Okay, I gotta know. Where did you get the transcript from? It's still not up on the EA IR site. I have access to some paid sites through my job that provide transcripts of earnings calls, so I don't think I can help you there. Ah. Yeah, that'd do it. Well, thanks for the bit you shared.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 28, 2017 16:25:33 GMT
MEA probably sold on the trilogy's past glory. It's cute when people whining about how they can't stand Andromeda not being exactly what they wanted have to spout this lame excuse. Not really an exscuse lol. Games DO sell based off previous iterations. It's why if one iteration is great then odds are the next one sells better, if the next one is bad then odds are the next one after suffers. It's also why most new ips don't gain ground without super marketing itself cause there's nothing to go off of. the dude isn't wrong, I bought Andromeda because of "Mass Effect" on the title.
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Post by fchopin on Jul 28, 2017 16:46:12 GMT
Don't know if BioWare Montreal was located somewhere else previously, but currently, BioWare Montreal and Motive are in the same building. One's on the floor right above the other. And for those who will take that as Bioware Montreal no longer working on Andromeda, just remember that companies can share the same building without all working on the same projects. Do they also share the same bed?
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Post by smilesja on Jul 28, 2017 16:50:47 GMT
As someone mentioned in another thread. This does not contradict ME: A success and the article reads like the author is trying to create a spin. To be honest, FIFA is their big cash cow franchise and that's why it gets mentioned multiple times.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 16:52:27 GMT
You wouldn't "seem optimistic" if your salary was based on catering to losers who desperately want to feel validated in their psychotic vendetta against a video game. But hey, interesting how their conclusion is based less on EA specifically saying it was a "significant contributor" to their income and is instead based entirely on how they don't talk constantly about it like they talk about upcoming releases and things that have already been announced.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 28, 2017 16:54:05 GMT
My impression from all this is that Mass Effect Andromeda sold decently, but it didn't blow anyone away.
What EA will decide is up in the air.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 28, 2017 17:01:29 GMT
My impression from all this is that Mass Effect Andromeda sold decently, but it didn't blow anyone away. What EA will decide is up in the air. That's probably close to the truth. MEA didn't flop in sales, but it might not have reached EA's expectations either. Right now I believe they are not working in MEA other than MP and patches, but with Hudson back that might change. If I have to guess, either we will see nothing at all or a stand alone expansion like The Old Blood.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 17:03:13 GMT
That's probably close to the truth. MEA didn't flop in sales, but it might not have reached EA's expectations either. Right now I believe they are not working in MEA other than MP and patches You can at least admit that you want to believe this based on literally nothing at all.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 17:03:35 GMT
As someone mentioned in another thread. This does not contradict ME: A success and the article reads like the author is trying to create a spin. To be honest, FIFA is their big cash cow franchise and that's why it gets mentioned multiple times. Man that one poster who likes the game and basically called out another for just playing the trial is getting hammered. Poor guy.
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Post by pouf on Jul 28, 2017 17:05:50 GMT
Let's summarize that Eurogamer article, being perfectly blunt about it:
A gaming journalist is desperately trying to put a spin on EA saying, "Andromeda made us a lot of money!"
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 28, 2017 17:10:46 GMT
Let's summarize that Eurogamer article, being perfectly blunt about it: A gaming journalist is desperately trying to put a spin on EA saying, "Andromeda made us a lot of money!" No Eurogamer's spin is "MEA made money but fuck it nothing going to happen."
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 28, 2017 17:12:35 GMT
My impression from all this is that Mass Effect Andromeda sold decently, but it didn't blow anyone away. What EA will decide is up in the air. Pretty much in agreement. If it did better than ME3 in sales they would've announced Andromeda selling the most out of the ME franchise, if it truly did bad I would like to think there'd be much more talk about it than there has. So I'd say they met their expectations but just didn't do enough to blow the roof off.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 28, 2017 17:13:18 GMT
Its not quite like that as much as I would like. The 63% of digital sales EA was talking about was for the entire company so that includes DLC, microtransactions, and mobile gaming. With that said they do say how much of their game sales are digital in this comment. Your calculations may be a little off since EA does also state that digital sales on the consoles accounts for 34% now, up from 27% the prior year. Overall, it's when they factor in the PC game sales along with other digital sales like DLC, the ratio climbs to 63%. We still don't know how much the ratio of full game sales only on the PC might skew this result, but given the nature of those other services, I would expect it to be a little lower than 63%. It does seem very likely that total sales on the PS4 and Xbox One to June 10th alone amounted to approximately 2.09 million units (1.56 from VGChartz grossed up by 34%) I included PC sales in my calculation? I pretty much counted all 3 platforms sales at once, for sake of simplicity and to not speculate how much each platform sold digital over physical. And besides BF One's They Shall Not Pass DLC and micro-transactions from other games, not a whole lot to skew overall sales difference from physical to digital in same quarterly fiscal year. So let's go with 40% of it is physical sales for all platforms? It's 4,15 million copies sold then. What about exact 50-50? 3,32 million copies sold, just narrowly eking EA's expected sales. I get the feeling people are just heavily underestimating PC sales. From the sound of it, PC version of ME:A may have outsold XBOne version. Although mainly thanks to many people switching to PS4 from X360, then from X360 to PC. Also EA keeps mentioning this is mainly thanks to ME:A sales contribution, not due to DLC's and microtransactions. Also this is their best revenue ever before in that fiscal quarterly year. Which means, ME:A may have outsold ME2, ME3 and DA2. Sure DLC's and microtransactions are inflating overall revenue to know for sure about ME:A sales figures, but there's that. With past EA statement they're happy with BioWare after release of ME:A, even with acknowledging polarized reception and being out of GOTY contender list, it's now very safe to say ME:A sold well. Just nothing to brag about, for sure, yet nothing to be disappointed about either.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 28, 2017 17:24:32 GMT
Significant contributor could mean anything. It could contribute 10% of digital sales and this would make it a significant contributor. It's all legalese to shelter Bioware from more scorn while they work on what EA hopes is the next Overwatch. Seeing as there's no sales numbers, and no exhaltation of sales a la Inquisition... Game underperformed. I'm curious as to why you think it "underperformed". Bioware released an unfinished game surrounded by rumours of a rocky production. I imagine EA and Bioware's expectations of the games' performance were realistic. As to "significant contribution"...significant means noteworthy and remarkable. It seems like it performed far better than expected. Underperformed based on initial expectations for a Mass Effect game (3m first week sales, 6m lifetime), overperformed based on brutal reception.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 28, 2017 17:28:30 GMT
Also EA keeps mentioning this is mainly thanks to ME:A sales contribution, not due to DLC's and microtransactions. Also this is their best revenue ever before in that fiscal quarterly year. Which means, ME:A may have outsold ME2, ME3 and DA2. Sure DLC's and microtransactions are inflating overall revenue to know for sure about ME:A sales figures, but there's that. That doesn't seem likely. If MEA outsold ME3, EA would be proudly billing it as the most successful release of the franchise like they did with DAI. And if you compare the way they talk about MEA in this call (or the previous call for that matter) to the way they talked about Dragon Age: Inquisition when that came out, their language is considerably more lukewarm as to its contribution. That isn't to say MEA sold poorly, but this doesn't indicate overwhelmingly positive results either.
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