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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jul 30, 2017 19:33:43 GMT
Finally they confirm that BW Montreal is no more, so Kotaku was right after all. Wow. Wait what?! That is not what the article said. Stop pandering. ? Two months after Mass Effect: Andromeda launched to dismal critical reception, reports from Kotaku's Jason Schreier indicate EA down-sized BioWare Montreal, the studio that made the game, and put the Mass Effect series on hiatus. The remaining BioWare developers were then spread out across EA Motive and BioWare's core Edmonton division to help work on the latter's new IP, Anthem, the reports continue. Now EA has officially confirmed the fate of its Montreal studio, validating the reports from May of this year. While discussing R&D spend in a recent quarterly earnings call, EA Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen said BioWare Montreal has been moved into the EA Motive studio to help Jade Raymond's team develop a new IP. "We're building out a new studio in Montréal, as we've told everyone. And we've hired over 100 people into that studio that are brand-new to EA. This is to build the new IP around Jade Raymond's team that she's been building. I was in that studio last month. And it's a wonderful new addition to our team. And we brought our BioWare Montréal team into that same facility. So they now all sit in one new studio together," Mr. Jorgensen said during the call. Read more: www.tweaktown.com/news/58611/ea-confirms-bioware-montreal-moved-motive/index.html |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 19:38:41 GMT
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Post by bshep on Jul 30, 2017 19:40:52 GMT
So for anyone saying that MEA was a failure or that EA is "padding" it's results by lumping it in with other games, look at this EA earnings call from February, 2017 about Titanfall 2. They used very specific language when talking about the disappointing sales of Titanfall 2. files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/4624688365x0x926062/D62107D7-CCA4-49A5-8D8D-87D0AFAE7A7E/EA_Transcript_Q317.pdf"Yes. So clearly, we saw a very large gross margin improvement in the quarter. That's a combination of higher digital as we just discussed, both in terms of full game downloads, and higher extra content, in the form of Ultimate Team. It also is, as you called out, we sold less Titanfall 2 than we expected, and we sold more Battlefield 1 than we expected. And Battlefield 1 is a higher margin product for us. And so, that acted as a way of improving the margin." Here, again. "Net sales for the quarter were $2.07 billion, a new record for the Company. The outperformance versus our expectation was driven by Battlefield 1 and FIFA 17, offset by Titanfall 2." Notice how they specifically say that Titanfall 2 under-performed. So why would they not have "padded" the statistics for Titanfall 2 as they supposedly have for MEA? The evidence is clear, people. I like this human!  |
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Post by kino on Jul 30, 2017 19:42:42 GMT
Wait what?! That is not what the article said. Stop pandering. ? Two months after Mass Effect: Andromeda launched to dismal critical reception, reports from Kotaku's Jason Schreier indicate EA down-sized BioWare Montreal, the studio that made the game, and put the Mass Effect series on hiatus. The remaining BioWare developers were then spread out across EA Motive and BioWare's core Edmonton division to help work on the latter's new IP, Anthem, the reports continue. Now EA has officially confirmed the fate of its Montreal studio, validating the reports from May of this year. While discussing R&D spend in a recent quarterly earnings call, EA Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen said BioWare Montreal has been moved into the EA Motive studio to help Jade Raymond's team develop a new IP. "We're building out a new studio in Montréal, as we've told everyone. And we've hired over 100 people into that studio that are brand-new to EA. This is to build the new IP around Jade Raymond's team that she's been building. I was in that studio last month. And it's a wonderful new addition to our team. And we brought our BioWare Montréal team into that same facility. So they now all sit in one new studio together," Mr. Jorgensen said during the call. Read more: www.tweaktown.com/news/58611/ea-confirms-bioware-montreal-moved-motive/index.html"And we brought our BioWare Montréal team into that same facility. So they now all sit in one new studio together." That's...not closed down. That's moving into new digs. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 19:42:52 GMT
Finally they confirm that BW Montreal is no more, so Kotaku was right after all. Wow. Bioware Montreal still exist in a way, but is subordinate to EA Motive for administrative and financial reasons. But it does confirm what Jason said in his first article. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 19:52:06 GMT
Finally they confirm that BW Montreal is no more, so Kotaku was right after all. Wow. Bioware Montreal still exist in a way, but is subordinate to EA Motive for administrative and financial reasons. But it does confirm what Jason said in his first article. No, no it doesn't. What he first reported was that the studio folks were mostly fired and the rest scattered to other studios. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 19:53:43 GMT
Finally they confirm that BW Montreal is no more, so Kotaku was right after all. Wow. If BW Montreal was no more, then they wouldn't be able to move it, would they? Of course, it still exists. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 19:55:20 GMT
Bioware Montreal still exist in a way, but is subordinate to EA Motive for administrative and financial reasons. But it does confirm what Jason said in his first article. No, no it doesn't. What he first reported was that the studio folks were mostly fired and the rest scattered to other studios. No, no it wasn't. The article was always the same. The title was changed 20 minutes after the article was created because Jason decided it was misleading, take that as you want. But the article clearly states: "Last month, a number of BioWare Montreal employees were transferred to the studio EA Motive, also based in Montreal, to work on Star Wars Battlefront II. Those remaining at BioWare Montreal will help support BioWare’s other games including the new intellectual property, code-named Dylan, which we expect the company to announce at E3. BioWare Montreal will also continue to patch and support Andromeda’s multiplayer." |
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Post by themikefest on Jul 30, 2017 19:56:42 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that?
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Post by smilesja on Jul 30, 2017 20:00:48 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that? To some people it means that Montreal is no more and the people are either fired or scattered to the winds according to Kotaku. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:01:47 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that? Very easy to understand. As easy to understand as the fact they are not working in Mass Effect there, but on Battlefront 2. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 20:04:09 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that? Very easy to understand. As easy to understand as the fact they are not working in Mass Effect there, but on Battlefront 2. What are the names of the Bioware devs there and what is each one's current project? |
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 30, 2017 20:07:39 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that? Very easy to understand. As easy to understand as the fact they are not working in Mass Effect there, but on Battlefront 2. *Yoda *Really? Inside information you must have hmmm? Proof you have? No? Stop spreading rumors you must. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:08:46 GMT
Very easy to understand. As easy to understand as the fact they are not working in Mass Effect there, but on Battlefront 2. What are the names of the Bioware devs there and what is each one's current project? And what sort of logic are you using that everything in Jason's article was 2/3 correct and 1/3 false? People said he was entirely wrong, now they can't do that anymore, so they will say he is just mostly wrong? |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 20:09:45 GMT
What are the names of the Bioware devs there and what is each one's current project? And what sort of logic are you using that everything in Jason's article was 2/3 correct and 1/3 false? People said he was entirely wrong, now they can't do that anymore, so they will say he is just mostly wrong? I don't concede he had much right at all and if you have any facts to add to the conversation, go for it. Otherwise, you're just spreading more rumor and gossip. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:10:53 GMT
And what sort of logic are you using that everything in Jason's article was 2/3 correct and 1/3 false? People said he was entirely wrong, now they can't do that anymore, so they will say he is just mostly wrong? I don't concede he had much right at all and if you have any facts to add to the conversation, go for it. Otherwise, you're just spreading more rumor and gossip. No, I'm repeating a report of a credible journalist that has been proven right multiple times concerning the said articles. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:11:38 GMT
Bioware Montreal moved to another building. What's hard to understand about that? To some people it means that Montreal is no more and the people are either fired or scattered to the winds according to Kotaku. If you don't believe Kotaku's article, at least don't say it said stuff it never did. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 20:12:38 GMT
I don't concede he had much right at all and if you have any facts to add to the conversation, go for it. Otherwise, you're just spreading more rumor and gossip. No, I'm repeating a report of a credible journalist that has been proven right multiple times concerning the said articles. No, you're repeating what you think is an accurate part of an article that has been changed several times and nobody here has the original copy of that article... because it's been changed several times. So, again, what are the names of these developers in Montreal and what are their current projects? |
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 30, 2017 20:13:03 GMT
I don't concede he had much right at all and if you have any facts to add to the conversation, go for it. Otherwise, you're just spreading more rumor and gossip. No, I'm repeating a report of a credible journalist that has been proven right multiple times concerning the said articles. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:14:34 GMT
No, I'm repeating a report of a credible journalist that has been proven right multiple times concerning the said articles. No, you're repeating what you think is an accurate part of an article that has been changed several times and nobody here has the original copy of that article... because it's been changed several times. Prove it. Show what was changed. Proved that more than the title was changed. Something the author himself made known. |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 30, 2017 20:15:56 GMT
To some people it means that Montreal is no more and the people are either fired or scattered to the winds according to Kotaku. If you don't believe Kotaku's article, at least don't say it said stuff it never did. Nah it's just some people here that said that Montreal was closed down and said that Kotaku was right. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 20:15:58 GMT
No, you're repeating what you think is an accurate part of an article that has been changed several times and nobody here has the original copy of that article... because it's been changed several times. Prove it. Show what was changed. Proved that more than the title was changed. Something the author himself made known. Prove it wasn't. It was reported more than once on this forum that it was. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:19:13 GMT
Prove it. Show what was changed. Proved that more than the title was changed. Something the author himself made known. Prove it wasn't. It was reported more than once on this forum that it was. Oh "It was reported more than once on this forum that it was.". And then you blame me for "spreading rumors". I've asked multiple times to multiple people that, and no one provided an answer. The only edit we know of is one that the author himself made known "Yeah, I’ve actually changed the headline from ‘Downsized’ to ‘Scaled Down’ to make it clear that people were moved, not laid off.". Which leads me to the conclusion that people just kept repeating sutff they didn't know about just because it helped them dismiss the article. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 30, 2017 20:20:58 GMT
Prove it wasn't. It was reported more than once on this forum that it was. Oh "It was reported more than once on this forum that it was.". And then you blame me for "spreading rumors". I've asked multiple times to multiple people that, and no one provided an answer. The only edit we know of is one that the author himself made known "Yeah, I’ve actually changed the headline from ‘Downsized’ to ‘Scaled Down’ to make it clear that people were moved, not laid off.". Which leads me to the conclusion that people just kept repeating sutff they didn't know about just because it helped them dismiss the article. So you don't have the original copy of the article... which is the main problem here. Since the article has been changed several times, many (including me) don't have faith in the article's author... that combined with their childish behavior towards folks here on a fan site. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 30, 2017 20:24:02 GMT
Oh "It was reported more than once on this forum that it was.". And then you blame me for "spreading rumors". I've asked multiple times to multiple people that, and no one provided an answer. The only edit we know of is one that the author himself made known "Yeah, I’ve actually changed the headline from ‘Downsized’ to ‘Scaled Down’ to make it clear that people were moved, not laid off.". Which leads me to the conclusion that people just kept repeating sutff they didn't know about just because it helped them dismiss the article. So you don't have the original copy of the article... which is the main problem here. Since the article has been changed several times, many (including me) don't have faith in the article's author... that combined with their childish behavior towards folks here on a fan site. No. The main problem here is that you think it's fine to believe random users on a internet board talking about things that cannot be proven yet think you can call an article by a journalist baseless rumor simply because parts of it weren't officially adressed by EA. |
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