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Post by kino on Aug 2, 2017 20:31:40 GMT
I don't see that happening. The IP is so closely tied to the developer in this case that handing it off to another studio would cause a different set of issues. I think they'll leave ME with Edmonton. The question is, does Edmonton have the personnel to do anything with it? It's a studio chock full of ongoing projects. Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. Not a bad point. I guess we'll have to...damn, I hate myself for saying this...wait and see.
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Post by jaegerbane on Aug 2, 2017 20:37:48 GMT
I don't see that happening. The IP is so closely tied to the developer in this case that handing it off to another studio would cause a different set of issues. I think they'll leave ME with Edmonton. The question is, does Edmonton have the personnel to do anything with it? It's a studio chock full of ongoing projects. Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. I honestly think that question is neither here nor there. I don't imagine it's a question of 'wanting' or not, its probably closer to them wanting to try a new franchise but I doubt they wanted to wash their hands of it entirely. As for the endings... I mean, it was pretty clear they had an arc in mind from the early days (if not the specific story events) and that would imply an arc end.
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Post by ayenari on Aug 2, 2017 20:41:19 GMT
I don't see that happening. The IP is so closely tied to the developer in this case that handing it off to another studio would cause a different set of issues. I think they'll leave ME with Edmonton. The question is, does Edmonton have the personnel to do anything with it? It's a studio chock full of ongoing projects. Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. Even if it goes to Edmonton, it'll still be at least 6+ years or more before we see anything more. They've Anthem coming, up and they've also all but confirmed that DA4 is happening next too.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 2, 2017 20:45:09 GMT
Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. Even if it goes to Edmonton, it'll still be at least 6+ years or more before we see anything more. They've Anthem coming, up and they've also all but confirmed that DA4 is happening next too. Which is what everyone was saying would happen even before Andromeda was released.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 2, 2017 20:56:11 GMT
Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. I honestly think that question is neither here nor there. I don't imagine it's a question of 'wanting' or not, its probably closer to them wanting to try a new franchise but I doubt they wanted to wash their hands of it entirely. As for the endings... I mean, it was pretty clear they had an arc in mind from the early days (if not the specific story events) and that would imply an arc end. And of course, there's a nonzero probability of EA cramming more ME down Edmonton's throat regardless of what the staff wants.
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Post by jaegerbane on Aug 2, 2017 21:05:35 GMT
I honestly think that question is neither here nor there. I don't imagine it's a question of 'wanting' or not, its probably closer to them wanting to try a new franchise but I doubt they wanted to wash their hands of it entirely. As for the endings... I mean, it was pretty clear they had an arc in mind from the early days (if not the specific story events) and that would imply an arc end. And of course, there's a nonzero probability of EA cramming more ME down Edmonton's throat regardless of what the staff wants. EA has taken a bit of a bashing over these last few days but I don't honestly think EA would do that. Too much riding on Edmonton's output and the Edmonton is still one of the most profitable and capable studios they have. As I say, I'm a little surprised Austin isn't being considered here. I don't even know how they can float the whole studio just based on supporting TOR. It's not even like they have no Frostbite experience.
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Post by Guts on Aug 2, 2017 21:12:36 GMT
Sounds like bait. Anyway if there's no DLC it's likely because of the big releases rather than reception. Like Anthem....
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 2, 2017 21:44:53 GMT
Big releases never stopped a successful game from having DLCs. Certainly not big releases that are coming more than a year after a game. All Mass Effect have had them, all Dragon Age had muliple DLCs. And there were a bunch of big releases between them. I understand people wanting to say Jason was lying and not believe what him no matter what, but denial should only go so far.
Not to mention, most people seems to believe at least his article about Andromeda truobled development, and he clearly states the team thought a sequel could be possible, meaning any merger was neither very advance (if it was already happening at all) nor certain.
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Post by OdanUrr on Aug 2, 2017 22:03:27 GMT
I guess that explains why there's no season pass then, right? I'll see myself out.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 2, 2017 22:08:26 GMT
Does Edmonton even want to do more ME? The ME3 ending isn't the sort of thing you write if you want to keep playing in that universe. Not a bad point. I guess we'll have to...damn, I hate myself for saying this...wait and see. wait and see? no one does that ! We're like Krogan females.. they talk about it, and then , think about it, and then ,talk about it some more ( Wrex)
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Post by AnDromedary on Aug 2, 2017 22:12:15 GMT
Big releases never stopped a successful game from having DLCs. Certainly not big releases that are coming more than a year after a game. All Mass Effect have had them, all Dragon Age had muliple DLCs. And there were a bunch of big releases between them. I understand people wanting to say Jason was lying and not believe what him no matter what, but denial should only go so far. Not to mention, most people seems to believe at least his article about Andromeda truobled development, and he clearly states the team thought a sequel could be possible, meaning any merger was neither very advance (if it was already happening at all) nor certain. I would have to agree, DLC for Andromeda (unfortunately) seems very unlikely to me know. I am sure if ME:A would have been better received by the general public and hadn't gotten the bad reputation right around release (no matter if you think it was justified or not, the memes and rather reserved critical reception did have an impact) they would have kept the Montreal team on DLC duty. Now, that team is gone (at least in terms of ME:A DLC) and the IP is back in Edmonton. But Edmonton is already knee deep in other stuff, most notably Anthem. Could Edmonton dispatch people to make ME:A DLC, maybe but why would they? If anyone in the upper management thought ME:A DLC was a good idea, why not keep the Montreal team out of Motive for a little longer? They are the ones who know that particular game code best, they are in the best position to go for it, not anyone in Edmonton who have their hands full with other stuff and who would have to first get a handle on the game as is. It's all speculation and deduction at this point of course and I personally would love to see ME:A DLC, I've stated more than once that I believe ME:A has a lot of potential. But I don't think the signs are looking good at this point and it looks to me like it's gain some upper management (probably within EA) that made these decisions.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2017 22:27:55 GMT
I still believe there will be 3 dlc's, yes I said 3, for MEA. Most of the attention has been directed at Montreal and a bit towards Edmonton, but nothing for Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if they're making dlc for the game. Sure its been about 4 1/2 months since the release, but is there a rush to release a dlc? Its possible they just want to make sure there's no issues when they release a dlc.
If they don't release one by the end of August, I would be concerned, and if nothing by the end of September, I would say none will be released. It would be surprising if that were to happen. Would they wait 4, 5 or 6 years to explain who the benefactor is in a sequel or if Fiend will have a bigger role? I doubt folks would wait that long for an explanation. Don't know.
At the moment, I'm not worried. I'm keeping busy playing DAI and preseason football will start with the Hall of Fame game tomorrow. excellent.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 2, 2017 22:54:15 GMT
I still believe there will be 3 dlc's, yes I said 3, for MEA. Most of the attention has been directed at Montreal and a bit towards Edmonton, but nothing for Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if they're making dlc for the game. Sure its been about 4 1/2 months since the release, but is there a rush to release a dlc? Its possible they just want to make sure there's no issues when they release a dlc. If they don't release one by the end of August, I would be concerned, and if nothing by the end of September, I would say none will be released. It would be surprising if that were to happen. Would they wait 4, 5 or 6 years to explain who the benefactor is in a sequel or if Fiend will have a bigger role? I doubt folks would wait that long for an explanation. Don't know. At the moment, I'm not worried. I'm keeping busy playing DAI and preseason football will start with the Hall of Fame game tomorrow. excellent. Go Panthers Fiend will be the new companion. I will love him and pet him and squeeze him and hug him and call him George.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2017 22:58:24 GMT
Fiend will be the new companion. I will love him and pet him and squeeze him and hug him and call him George.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 23:16:59 GMT
Mass Effect going back to Edmonton with DK, and Casey back on board with the company in project is GREAT news. Lets hope the tide can turn back to pre 2008 BioWare (not that ME3 and DAI were bad to me). I like Andromeda but it does lack in a few places that Bioware used to excel at and quite a few immersion breaking problems plague it (Asari clones and pyjak krogan).
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Post by cypherj on Aug 2, 2017 23:35:01 GMT
Sounds like bait. Anyway if there's no DLC it's likely because of the big releases rather than reception. I've been seeing this statement over the past couple of days and there's no way this is the case, just no way. This is saying had Andromeda been a runaway hit, great reception, high review scores, better than projected sales, that EA would not have had a plan to capitalize on it. EA may put the bottom line before quality sometimes, but they aren't incompetent, and this would be sheer incompetence. If it's money to be made they will make it. They were trying to restart the Mass Effect series and have it gain traction with the fans so they would have had a plan in place to jump right into to future content, and probably even start development on ME:A2 if the market warranted it.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 3, 2017 3:11:47 GMT
And of course, there's a nonzero probability of EA cramming more ME down Edmonton's throat regardless of what the staff wants. EA has taken a bit of a bashing over these last few days but I don't honestly think EA would do that. Too much riding on Edmonton's output and the Edmonton is still one of the most profitable and capable studios they have. As I say, I'm a little surprised Austin isn't being considered here. I don't even know how they can float the whole studio just based on supporting TOR. It's not even like they have no Frostbite experience. Because Austin is too busy sitting on their hands with TOR
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Post by bakgrind on Aug 3, 2017 3:57:55 GMT
EA has taken a bit of a bashing over these last few days but I don't honestly think EA would do that. Too much riding on Edmonton's output and the Edmonton is still one of the most profitable and capable studios they have. As I say, I'm a little surprised Austin isn't being considered here. I don't even know how they can float the whole studio just based on supporting TOR. It's not even like they have no Frostbite experience. Because Austin is too busy sitting on their hands with TOR I do believe that Bioware Austin is focusing on other projects outside of SWTOR and in all likelihood has minimal dev support because for the past two years has only been getting piece meal content . I mean they really don't have a choice because it's hard to justify EA/Bioware pouring a lot of resources into the game when out of 17 total servers that the game supports there are only 2 that are "heavy" populated with one in the US and one in EU and they both go to light around 1am for both servers.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 3, 2017 4:01:54 GMT
Sounds like bait. Anyway if there's no DLC it's likely because of the big releases rather than reception. I've been seeing this statement over the past couple of days and there's no way this is the case, just no way. This is saying had Andromeda been a runaway hit, great reception, high review scores, better than projected sales, that EA would not have had a plan to capitalize on it. EA may put the bottom line before quality sometimes, but they aren't incompetent, and this would be sheer incompetence. If it's money to be made they will make it. They were trying to restart the Mass Effect series and have it gain traction with the fans so they would have had a plan in place to jump right into to future content, and probably even start development on ME:A2 if the market warranted it. And they've stated that they are happy with ME: A. With all these big projects especially Anthem undergoing. If there were no DLC it was likely because there's no time to fit it considering the projects.
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Post by antmarch456 on Aug 3, 2017 4:11:55 GMT
I still believe there will be 3 dlc's, yes I said 3, for MEA. Most of the attention has been directed at Montreal and a bit towards Edmonton, but nothing for Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if they're making dlc for the game. Sure its been about 4 1/2 months since the release, but is there a rush to release a dlc? Its possible they just want to make sure there's no issues when they release a dlc. If they don't release one by the end of August, I would be concerned, and if nothing by the end of September, I would say none will be released. It would be surprising if that were to happen. Would they wait 4, 5 or 6 years to explain who the benefactor is in a sequel or if Fiend will have a bigger role? I doubt folks would wait that long for an explanation. Don't know. At the moment, I'm not worried. I'm keeping busy playing DAI and preseason football will start with the Hall of Fame game tomorrow. excellent. This...actually sounds really reasonable. Not to mention there's still the 2nd book that could potentially tie in with the Quarian Ark, and my personal belief that the APEX missions will eventually lead itself to a DLC story, maybe.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 3, 2017 4:13:29 GMT
I've been seeing this statement over the past couple of days and there's no way this is the case, just no way. This is saying had Andromeda been a runaway hit, great reception, high review scores, better than projected sales, that EA would not have had a plan to capitalize on it. EA may put the bottom line before quality sometimes, but they aren't incompetent, and this would be sheer incompetence. If it's money to be made they will make it. They were trying to restart the Mass Effect series and have it gain traction with the fans so they would have had a plan in place to jump right into to future content, and probably even start development on ME:A2 if the market warranted it. And they've stated that they are happy with ME: A. With all these big projects especially Anthem undergoing. If there were no DLC it was likely because there's no time to fit it considering the projects. They also said that they wouldn't change anything in DA2 after it released I believe both statements about as much as much as I believe that the Poles attacked that radio station
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Aug 3, 2017 4:21:55 GMT
And they've stated that they are happy with ME: A. With all these big projects especially Anthem undergoing. If there were no DLC it was likely because there's no time to fit it considering the projects. They also said that they wouldn't change anything in DA2 after it released I believe both statements about as much as much as I believe that the Poles attacked that radio station Don't forget that whole Deception getting a rewrite thing.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 3, 2017 4:42:48 GMT
The ME:A defenders continuously claimed that BW Montreal was working on DLC, that they were behind schedule because of patching, that critical reception harmed ME:A, that there was no merger, that DLC was going to be announced at Montreal con no wait SD con no wait gamescon, etc etc etc. Now we see the furious back pedaling and moving of goalposts. Now BW Austin is working on ME:A DLC, BW is hiring for DA because they assigned another team to DLC, EA Motive is going to deliver DLC, that the decision for no DLC was taken before release, etc etc etc. Amazing.
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Aug 3, 2017 5:27:27 GMT
The ME:A defenders continuously claimed that BW Montreal was working on DLC, that they were behind schedule because of patching, that critical reception harmed ME:A, that there was no merger, that DLC was going to be announced at Montreal con no wait SD con no wait gamescon, etc etc etc. Now we see the furious back pedaling and moving of goalposts. Now BW Austin is working on ME:A DLC, BW is hiring for DA because they assigned another team to DLC, EA Motive is going to deliver DLC, that the decision for no DLC was taken before release, etc etc etc. Amazing. The double standard was astounding when everyone on this forum accepted leaks like Vetra being bi only because of Sheryl Chee due to anonymous sources yet suddenly Jason says negative things and anonymous sources are suddenly bad now despite nobody complaining about them before. Honestly, the hypocrisy is astounding
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Post by haolyn on Aug 3, 2017 5:59:25 GMT
Schreier was right about BW Montreal employees leaving but he got the reason for it wrong. If he knew about the merger he would have talked about it. Instead he framed it as if the Montreal team was disbanded as a reaction to MEA's release, when in reality EA was always planning to consolidate its teams there into Motive and the move had been happening since at least January.
That's why people don't trust him fully. He got some facts right but also added a lot of speculation and conjecture.
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