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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:01:58 GMT
Looks like Jason was at least semi correct in his article about ME being on ice. Where does it say that ME is back in Edmonton's hands? I must've missed it. We don't even know that. IIRC that was based on Frazier mentioning on Twitter that since he's not Bioware anymore, they should talk to someone at Edmonton (i.e. Bioware HQ, where all the leads are) in reply to someone asking about DLC. It hasn't been confirmed. Seriously, the sheer lack of information people are basing their speculation on here is absolutely unreal. So just like the old BSN?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:22:21 GMT
Looks like Jason was at least semi correct in his article about ME being on ice. Where does it say that ME is back in Edmonton's hands? I must've missed it. We don't even know that. IIRC that was based on Frazier mentioning on Twitter that since he's not Bioware anymore, they should talk to someone at Edmonton (i.e. Bioware HQ, where all the leads are) in reply to someone asking about DLC. It hasn't been confirmed. Seriously, the sheer lack of information people are basing their speculation on here is absolutely unreal. I'm sure it was asked on twitter if people were working on it at Edmonton, and one of the devs said yes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:31:53 GMT
We don't even know that. IIRC that was based on Frazier mentioning on Twitter that since he's not Bioware anymore, they should talk to someone at Edmonton (i.e. Bioware HQ, where all the leads are) in reply to someone asking about DLC. It hasn't been confirmed. Seriously, the sheer lack of information people are basing their speculation on here is absolutely unreal. I'm sure it was asked on twitter if people were working on it at Edmonton, and one of the devs said yes. Ah. Good to know.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 7, 2017 18:36:09 GMT
Looks like Jason was at least semi correct in his article about ME being on ice. Where does it say that ME is back in Edmonton's hands? I must've missed it. Someone asked if they would be putting out a patch for the Xbox, and were told by the person asked that he no longer worked for Bioware, and they would need to ask Edmonton if a patch was forthcoming.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 7, 2017 18:39:17 GMT
Ultimately EA's target audience aren't professional critics. If there's money to be made in selling DLC for a game, they'll make DLC no matter if the game scored 7/10 or 9/10. They only care about reviews insofar as they'll affect sales. If they're not making DLC, it means one of two things: - the game sold so few units that the expected earnings from selling the DLC wouldn't at least cover the costs of making it or - selling DLC would make a decent profit but they stand to make an even bigger profit by taking the people and resources who would have worked on it and putting them to work towards bigger and more profitable projects with tighter deadlines Seeing as how EA haven't explicitly expressed a disappointment with MEA (and they've been transparent about disappointments in the past), and looking at the recent Bioware Montreal merger with EA Motive, plus at how intensely Bioware is hiring for DA4 and Anthem, I'm more inclined to believe that there just aren't enough people at Bioware to work on DLC for MEA. I still lean towards there being DLC but something of Edmonton and/or Austin is doing it, at a less important and strict schedule than anything shifted/used for Anthem at the moment. That MEA is no longer anything of a significant priority, but that they may not be letting go the prospect of DLC profit. But because of such vague timelines (kind of in months instead of weeks) internally, and other reasons, they can't really strongly hint anything, let alone officially state anything, until it is absolutely coming on a specific date. Again, only lean. Whatever lol. My impression is MEA underperformed to hopes but it was an expected and still profitable and company-driving underperforming, and that they're wrapping up (over now, weeks, perhaps months) its cycle for a while (instead of going nuts with huge expansions of a surprisingly super blockbuster of a game) as they highly prioritize Anthem and move towards prioritizing DA4, until they return to the ME series. 'Interesting' really is the word for MEA's outcome, I'd bet. I don't think the series (or even more post-release prospects) is necessarily dead, but I also don't get any sense that its something EA cares to focus on at the moment, and I wouldn't be surprised that if, say, Anthem or other sci-fi shooter toned properties hugely overperform, ME franchise does indeed get shelved - but I don't think that has happened yet, or necessarily will happen in the next years. Its just there - did good, made money, had controversy, didn't blow socks off, but with its circumstances didn't justify a studio devoted just to the franchise. Could be wrong. I just don't think today's hopes for MEA DLC are unrealistic yet. It may be taking time, of unusual circumstance, etc, but if the franchise has any import to Bioware, I think they may still get 1-3 DLC out if only to assure audience that there is a path forward; I wouldn't expect so much sequel tease as DAI did in its final DLC, but I do think there may be a mix of closing off of some plotlines and a communicated open and more refined attitude to what may be in another game. I suppose there is a small chance another studio has been working on DLC this whole time, or is just now starting on it, but the only indication of that would be the hints still remaining in the MEA SP campaign regarding the quarian ark. Indeed it wouldn't be that difficult to remove the two conversations referencing it from the game if plans for DLC involving it were shelved prior to release. So either the plans changed since release, or it's still coming. On the other hand, the only new MEA content we do have confirmation is still on its way is MP content. And the only other hints towards the quarian ark since release have been in MP missions. And recently they introduced a new Milky Way race to MP with no mention of it in SP. It's therefore not a stretch to conclude that, if quarian DLC was ever planned and quarian models along with assets for other races were worked on, that they might want to repurpose those assets into MP character models along with a repurposed quarian ark as an MP map, since it would take far less time and resources and personnel to implement than a SP DLC. If i were Bioware/EA and I didn't have the personnel to dedicate to a DLC project that may or may not turn a decent enough profit, I would think this would be the most elegant solution to repurpose assets already worked on, in order to still pull some earnings via MP microtransactions while re-assigning freed up personnel to bigger and more profitable projects. It could be that I'm wrong and with the recent soft relaunch of the game Bioware/EA are still evaluating whether DLC would be cost effective and may greenlight it. Personally I think it's more likely the game sales barely broke even and they're trying to squeeze out more profit from it and get more people hooked on MP, but anything's possible. Of course I'd love nothing more than to be wrong and for Bioware to drop DLC tomorrow or sometime soon. But nothing I've seen so far indicates that that will be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:45:05 GMT
Looks like Jason was at least semi correct in his article about ME being on ice. Where does it say that ME is back in Edmonton's hands? I must've missed it. Someone asked if they would be putting out a patch for the Xbox, and were told by the person asked that he no longer worked for Bioware, and they would need to ask Edmonton if a patch was forthcoming. Still not really a concrete answer, but thanks anyway. BW loves being cryptic these days.
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Post by correctamundo on Aug 7, 2017 19:14:50 GMT
Someone asked if they would be putting out a patch for the Xbox, and were told by the person asked that he no longer worked for Bioware, and they would need to ask Edmonton if a patch was forthcoming. Still not really a concrete answer, but thanks anyway. BW loves being cryptic these days. Fernando Melo on twitter
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 19:17:39 GMT
Still not really a concrete answer, but thanks anyway. BW loves being cryptic these days. Fernando Melo on twitter Now that's concrete evidence. Thanks bro!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 19:39:57 GMT
Still not really a concrete answer, but thanks anyway. BW loves being cryptic these days. Fernando Melo on twitter That's the one I was thinking of, thanks. For me the most compelling evidence for DLC is the fact that both the last issue of the Discovery comic and the Annihilation book have been delayed to October/November, and both will supposedly deal with the quarians. It seems like too much of a coincidence to me...
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Post by The Twilight God on Aug 9, 2017 3:03:04 GMT
Everything is GREAT!!! Business as usual. Bioware Montreal is a smashing success. MEA DLC is coming out Soon™. Any moment now. You just wait. EA said they were happy with ME:A
That's nice of them to say. Look forward to the MEA DLC. I hear it's coming Soon™.
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Post by jimbo on Aug 11, 2017 0:53:09 GMT
That's the one I was thinking of, thanks. For me the most compelling evidence for DLC is the fact that both the last issue of the Discovery comic and the Annihilation book have been delayed to October/November, and both will supposedly deal with the quarians. It seems like too much of a coincidence to me... Or they had to delay the book and comic to make changes to fill in gaps left by not having any DLC. In other words it doesn't prove anything either way.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Aug 15, 2017 7:24:19 GMT
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on February 28th. IIRC, it's an open world game taking up about 39 GB, similar to MEA's size. HZD's DLC was announced last week, its release date sometime in November or December.
Andromeda's also a big game. Put two and two together and you'll see.
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Post by bigbad on Aug 15, 2017 11:26:34 GMT
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on February 28th. IIRC, it's an open world game taking up about 39 GB, similar to MEA's size. HZD's DLC was announced last week, its release date sometime in November or December. Andromeda's also a big game. Put two and two together and you'll see. Actually, the HZD DLC was announced more than two months ago. There was a trailer released on June 12th. It was only the release date (Nov 7th) that was recently announced.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 15, 2017 11:48:35 GMT
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on February 28th. IIRC, it's an open world game taking up about 39 GB, similar to MEA's size. HZD's DLC was announced last week, its release date sometime in November or December. Andromeda's also a big game. Put two and two together and you'll see. If there is one thing that makes BioWare unique (at least I think it's unique) is that BioWare does have a history of announcing their dlc in a relatively short amount of time between announcement and release.
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