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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2017 15:56:01 GMT
Everything is GREAT!!! Business as usual. Bioware Montreal is a smashing success. MEA DLC is coming out Soon™. Any moment now. You just wait. EA said they were happy with ME:A
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 6, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
I'm not buying any of the arguments that Andromeda is done. The speculation can run with serious reasoning either way (with some more reasons to head the negative way and you would be totally justified.), but I still see the diamond. That's money. You can call it a Zircona, a commercial, or flawed... but it's a diamond and if you can ask me... a sparkly one with a few noticeable flaws. It's still a diamond.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 6, 2017 18:21:14 GMT
It's not so much that it was critically panned, but critically ridiculed and the laughingstock of the internet. That kind of brand damage is not worth all the DLC in the world. They'd be basically losing money as people continue to connect Bioware = shitty games and they can't have that with Anthem coming from the same brand. Interesting point, but if Bioware is so severely tarnished by ME:A (not saying it's their finest hour by any stretch) why doesn't EA just have anthem come from another division under their umbrella. "Bioware" developers can do the same thing under another imprint. All EA would have to do is either move them there or change the sign on the studio du jour. I'm sure if they had a time machine they would. Everyone knows Anthem is Bioware and changing that now would essentially just be a smokescreen and kill Bioware for good in the process.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 6, 2017 18:24:03 GMT
Interesting point, but if Bioware is so severely tarnished by ME:A (not saying it's their finest hour by any stretch) why doesn't EA just have anthem come from another division under their umbrella. "Bioware" developers can do the same thing under another imprint. All EA would have to do is either move them there or change the sign on the studio du jour. I'm sure if they had a time machine they would. Everyone knows Anthem is Bioware and changing that now would essentially just be a smokescreen and kill Bioware for good in the process. Bioware ceased to be more than a logo when EA bought them out. It's just Generic RPG division now. they could have called it "Bob Smith Studios" and events would have unfolded up to now exactly the same way. Again, no real reason they couldn't. The worst thing that would happen is some gaming "journalists" would write some barely factual (if that) clickbait. People give Kotaku etc. to much credit.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 6, 2017 18:45:48 GMT
I'm sure if they had a time machine they would. Everyone knows Anthem is Bioware and changing that now would essentially just be a smokescreen and kill Bioware for good in the process. Bioware ceased to be more than a logo when EA bought them out. It's just Generic RPG division now. they could have called it "Bob Smith Studios" and events would have unfolded up to now exactly the same way. Again, no real reason they couldn't. The worst thing that would happen is some gaming "journalists" would write some barely factual (if that) clickbait. People give Kotaku etc. to much credit. It's still Bioware to the masses, they don't know any better.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 6, 2017 18:50:24 GMT
Bottom line is it is highly unusual for EA to not release DLC for a game, even a poorly sold and critically panned one. It's not unreasonable to suspect this merger and the lack of personnel might have had something to do with it. It's not so much that it was critically panned, but critically ridiculed and the laughingstock of the internet. That kind of brand damage is not worth all the DLC in the world. They'd be basically losing money as people continue to connect Bioware = shitty games and they can't have that with Anthem coming from the same brand. EA doesn't really care about internet memes. Actually no one outside of a loud online minority cares about internet memes. Somehow Bioware's "brand" survived Dragon Age 2, the ME3 endings, the "SJWare" memes... they're still here making and selling games, and the fandom is still here claiming the latest Bioware game is the worst game they ever made and will bring about the death of their brand. Please.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 6, 2017 18:50:35 GMT
Bioware ceased to be more than a logo when EA bought them out. It's just Generic RPG division now. they could have called it "Bob Smith Studios" and events would have unfolded up to now exactly the same way. Again, no real reason they couldn't. The worst thing that would happen is some gaming "journalists" would write some barely factual (if that) clickbait. People give Kotaku etc. to much credit. It's still Bioware to the masses, they don't know any better. Very true, I think if the most diehard meme ragers would get a sense of perspective that Bioware is really just a logo under the umbrella of the EA Beast, more proactive consumerism could drive what we see.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 6, 2017 18:55:32 GMT
It's not so much that it was critically panned, but critically ridiculed and the laughingstock of the internet. That kind of brand damage is not worth all the DLC in the world. They'd be basically losing money as people continue to connect Bioware = shitty games and they can't have that with Anthem coming from the same brand. EA doesn't really care about internet memes. Actually no one outside of a loud online minority cares about internet memes. Somehow Bioware's "brand" survived Dragon Age 2, the ME3 endings, the "SJWare" memes... they're still here making and selling games, and the fandom is still here claiming the latest Bioware game is the worst game they ever made and will bring about the death of their brand. Please. Yesh just yesterday I saw another "news" article about how Bioware and ME is doomed and they were posting their inside source as Maneever.
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Post by samhain444 on Aug 6, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
It's not so much that it was critically panned, but critically ridiculed and the laughingstock of the internet. That kind of brand damage is not worth all the DLC in the world. They'd be basically losing money as people continue to connect Bioware = shitty games and they can't have that with Anthem coming from the same brand. EA doesn't really care about internet memes. Actually no one outside of a loud online minority cares about internet memes. Somehow Bioware's "brand" survived Dragon Age 2, the ME3 endings, the "SJWare" memes... they're still here making and selling games, and the fandom is still here claiming the latest Bioware game is the worst game they ever made and will bring about the death of their brand. Please. Shoosh...dont spoil the "BioWare is a faceless, souless husk" narrative
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Post by Warrick on Aug 6, 2017 19:23:17 GMT
So Manveer Heir is on twitter saying Bioware Montreal was racist and sexist. Who's got the popcorn bowl?
Everything is GREAT!!! Business as usual. Bioware Montreal is a smashing success. MEA DLC is coming out Soon™. Any moment now. You just wait. EA said they were happy with ME:A Yeah and whenever someone gets fired, he is strongly encouraged to send everybody an email announcing that he is supper happy to have spent such a fantastic time with such fine people but that he is extremely excited to move on in his career seeking new exciting challenges and everything is exciting and challenging and happy. Everything coming from big tech companies is bullshit.
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 6, 2017 19:24:50 GMT
EA said they were happy with ME:A Yeah and whenever someone gets fired, he is strongly encouraged to send everybody an email announcing that he is supper happy to have spent such a fantastic time with such fine people but that he is extremely excited to move on in his career seeking new exciting challenges and everything is exciting and challenging and happy. Everything coming from big tech companies is bullshit. Nobody got fired due to ME:A.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2017 19:25:00 GMT
EA said they were happy with ME:A Yeah and whenever someone gets fired, he is strongly encouraged to send everybody an email announcing that he is supper happy to have spent such a fantastic time with such fine people but that he is extremely excited to move on in his career seeking new exciting challenges and everything is exciting and challenging and happy. Everything coming from big tech companies is bullshit. They said this in front of investors which you really can't lie to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 19:25:37 GMT
EA said they were happy with ME:A Yeah and whenever someone gets fired, he is strongly encouraged to send everybody an email announcing that he is supper happy to have spent such a fantastic time with such fine people but that he is extremely excited to move on in his career seeking new exciting challenges and everything is exciting and challenging and happy. Everything coming from big tech companies is bullshit. And everything said by some random guy on an internet forum is complete fact...
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Post by Warrick on Aug 6, 2017 19:26:17 GMT
Time will tell.
Mind, there's still people waiting for half life 2 episode 3.
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 6, 2017 19:29:49 GMT
Time will tell. Mind, there's still people waiting for half life 2 episode 3. How is that relevant? Also people awaited for Duke Nukem Forever as well. And game was released after 12 years, for better or worse. So it is a moot point.
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Post by Warrick on Aug 6, 2017 19:38:24 GMT
Time will tell. Mind, there's still people waiting for half life 2 episode 3. How is that relevant? Also people awaited for Duke Nukem Forever as well. And game was released after 12 years, for better or worse. So it is a moot point. Looking forward to Andromeda DLC in 2029.
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Post by cooldude on Aug 6, 2017 20:02:16 GMT
Everything is GREAT!!! Business as usual. Bioware Montreal is a smashing success. MEA DLC is coming out Soon™. Any moment now. You just wait. EA said they were happy with ME:A That's PR.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2017 20:03:35 GMT
EA said they were happy with ME:A That's PR. They said this to investors they really can't lie about their results.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2017 20:29:45 GMT
Time will tell. Mind, there's still people waiting for half life 2 episode 3. How is that relevant? Also people awaited for Duke Nukem Forever as well. And game was released after 12 years, for better or worse. So it is a moot point. 15 years actually. From 1996 to 2011.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 7, 2017 1:37:26 GMT
Everything is GREAT!!! Business as usual. Bioware Montreal is a smashing success. MEA DLC is coming out Soon™. Any moment now. You just wait. EA said they were happy with ME:A and BioWare said they were happy with DA2 and wouldn't change a thing before it launched T H E Y L I E
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 7, 2017 1:38:26 GMT
They said this to investors they really can't lie about their results. they can't lie about the money being made, but there's nothing stopping them from saying it through clenched teeth. The fact that BioWare Montreal is shuttered speaks to another reaction besides happiness
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Post by mannyray on Aug 7, 2017 1:46:57 GMT
They said this to investors they really can't lie about their results. they can't lie about the money being made, but there's nothing stopping them from saying it through clenched teeth. The fact that BioWare Montreal is shuttered speaks to another reaction besides happiness I thought still promoting it was one way they showed they can still get more out of the game. Plus, lying about returns on a given property in a statement to shareholders is illegal, at least in the USA. In other words, if ME:A didn't drive the profits for last quarter they are breaking the law by saying it did. Don't let rage over the game cloud your objectivity.
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 7, 2017 1:59:12 GMT
they can't lie about the money being made, but there's nothing stopping them from saying it through clenched teeth. The fact that BioWare Montreal is shuttered speaks to another reaction besides happiness I thought still promoting it was one way they showed they can still get more out of the game. Plus, lying about returns on a given property in a statement to shareholders is illegal, at least in the USA. In other words, if ME:A didn't drive the profits for last quarter they are breaking the law by saying it did. Don't let rage over the game cloud your objectivity. You can say a lot of lies telling just the truth. MEA impact on EA's income is obvious, it doesn't mean it performed as good as they hoped. I don't think we have enough info to tell one way or the other honestly.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 7, 2017 4:25:26 GMT
they can't lie about the money being made, but there's nothing stopping them from saying it through clenched teeth. The fact that BioWare Montreal is shuttered speaks to another reaction besides happiness I thought still promoting it was one way they showed they can still get more out of the game. Plus, lying about returns on a given property in a statement to shareholders is illegal, at least in the USA. In other words, if ME:A didn't drive the profits for last quarter they are breaking the law by saying it did. Don't let rage over the game cloud your objectivity. I don't think they lied about the game turning a profit. I think they weren't happy with the profit they got from it, but they aren't really going to say "yeah the game sold well, so we're going to shut down the studio that worked on it" at their meetings now are they?
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 7, 2017 5:13:29 GMT
It's not so much that it was critically panned, but critically ridiculed and the laughingstock of the internet. That kind of brand damage is not worth all the DLC in the world. They'd be basically losing money as people continue to connect Bioware = shitty games and they can't have that with Anthem coming from the same brand. EA doesn't really care about internet memes. Actually no one outside of a loud online minority cares about internet memes. Somehow Bioware's "brand" survived Dragon Age 2, the ME3 endings, the "SJWare" memes... they're still here making and selling games, and the fandom is still here claiming the latest Bioware game is the worst game they ever made and will bring about the death of their brand. Please. And DA2 and ME3 actually had high review scores. MEA is Bioware's lowest reviewed game EVER. Dont worry, at the end of the day, there still isnt any SP DLC and the clock is ticking towards that critical 5 month marl after release when the 1st SP DLC is normally released. Late August would be that sweet spot....
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