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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:06:15 GMT
Literally the only site that claims to have any actual confirmation of this is a site that cultivated an audience pandering to the #GamerGate crowd—you know, that group of people who made up complete lies about a woman who worked on the game to incite misogynistic abuse and death threats towards her? Not a single outlet with any veneer of credibility has reported this. Not even Schreier, and you know he'd take pride at twisting whatever crap he could into an excuse for trolls to harass and threaten BioWare staff. And frankly, doesn't this seem familiar? A blatant and shameless hoax perpetrated by people obviously trying to incite abuse towards BioWare is disproven soon after it emerges...but then one single journalist declares that he has confirmation, confirmation that no one else has gotten but they're perfectly happy to run their own hit-pieces off of the original "someone said so" article. So yeah, this is bullshit. It's obvious bullshit, and it's coming from a site filled with people who take pride in pumping out biased bullshit. Anyone who falls for it is pathetic, but nowhere near as sad and vile as the people making up this bullshit. When I see the source TechRaptor, I think, "Nope. These guys aren't to be trusted at all." linksocarina writes there. I'd say they're trustworthy.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 1, 2017 5:07:01 GMT
So are we still on denial or are we on to bargaining? I can't tell anymore
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:07:13 GMT
So yeah, this is bullshit. It's obvious bullshit, and it's coming from a site filled with people who take pride in pumping out biased bullshit. Anyone who falls for it is pathetic, but nowhere near as sad and vile as the people making up this bullshit. Sorry, what exactly are we claiming is bullshit here? That EA Montreal is no more or that ME is done? Both.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:08:16 GMT
So are we still on denial or are we on to bargaining? I can't tell anymore Who's we? You don't know that there's DLC as much people who hope there will be?
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Post by decafhigh on Aug 1, 2017 5:09:49 GMT
When I see the source TechRaptor, I think, "Nope. These guys aren't to be trusted at all." linksocarina writes there. I'd say they're trustworthy. Never heard of TechRaptor. Do folks consider IGN credible then? www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/01/ea-merges-bioware-montreal-with-motive-studios“The teams in EA Worldwide Studios are packed with talent, and more than ever, we’re driving collaboration between studios on key projects," EA told IGN in a statement. "With multiple major projects in development in Montreal, we are merging BioWare Montreal with Motive Studios. This is an ongoing process, but there are many exciting roles and opportunities for everyone on the team." Seems pretty clear to me.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:10:42 GMT
Well, shit, I'm torn now. I don't want to see BW Montreal dissolved but I certainly don't want to see you take one to the face because EA's public relations is crap. I already got some heat by someone in the article calling me a liar. That was fun because an hour earlier I got praise for a No Man's Sky article I published for being good journalism. whatever happens, happens. All I know is I did my job. If there is a change later well make that edit as we go. That makes you better than Jason to me.
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Post by kino on Aug 1, 2017 5:11:24 GMT
Normaly, Nord, I'd agree with you, but one of our own is a part of TR. If Links says he got a response from EA I believe him. That doesn't mean I blindly believe EA. In a matter of principle (and for the sake of journalistic integrity and against any GamerGate-affiliate sites), I can't trust TechRaptor. Yeah, I get that, man. In the end none of this is anything until EA/BW releases a public statement. There's an annual stockholder meeting on Aug. 3. If something's to be said about a reorg it'll be then.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:13:13 GMT
Never heard of TechRaptor. Do folks consider IGN credible then? www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/01/ea-merges-bioware-montreal-with-motive-studios“The teams in EA Worldwide Studios are packed with talent, and more than ever, we’re driving collaboration between studios on key projects," EA told IGN in a statement. "With multiple major projects in development in Montreal, we are merging BioWare Montreal with Motive Studios. This is an ongoing process, but there are many exciting roles and opportunities for everyone on the team." Seems pretty clear to me. To me they're fine. But going through the thread there just seems to be a lot of confusion going around.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Aug 1, 2017 5:13:19 GMT
When I see the source TechRaptor, I think, "Nope. These guys aren't to be trusted at all." linksocarina writes there. I'd say they're trustworthy. See my previous post.
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Post by decafhigh on Aug 1, 2017 5:21:52 GMT
Never heard of TechRaptor. Do folks consider IGN credible then? www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/01/ea-merges-bioware-montreal-with-motive-studios“The teams in EA Worldwide Studios are packed with talent, and more than ever, we’re driving collaboration between studios on key projects," EA told IGN in a statement. "With multiple major projects in development in Montreal, we are merging BioWare Montreal with Motive Studios. This is an ongoing process, but there are many exciting roles and opportunities for everyone on the team." Seems pretty clear to me. To me they're fine. But going through the thread there just seems to be a lot of confusion going around. Yeah can never keep up with which sites are supposed to be "credible" or not. It changes every time a sites posts a good or bad article a particular fandom likes or not.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:23:51 GMT
To me they're fine. But going through the thread there just seems to be a lot of confusion going around. Yeah can never keep up with which sites are supposed to be "credible" or not. It changes every time a sites posts a good or bad article a particular fandom likes or not. To be honest, I don't consider IGN too trustworthy. Some of it is resentment of them and other major gaming sites when I was part of Gamergate.
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Post by decafhigh on Aug 1, 2017 5:28:17 GMT
Yeah can never keep up with which sites are supposed to be "credible" or not. It changes every time a sites posts a good or bad article a particular fandom likes or not. To be honest, I don't consider IGN too trustworthy. Some of it is resentment of them and other major gaming sites when I was part of Gamergate. I never got into the whole "gamergate", didn't even know about it till long after it was done being a thing. IGN's news reporting has always seemed pretty decent to me. At least I can't think of any major faux-pas they have been mixed up in.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 5:35:09 GMT
To be honest, I don't consider IGN too trustworthy. Some of it is resentment of them and other major gaming sites when I was part of Gamergate. I never got into the whole "gamergate", didn't even know about it till long after it was done being a thing. IGN's news reporting has always seemed pretty decent to me. At least I can't think of any major faux-pas they have been mixed up in. The less you know the better.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 1, 2017 5:39:37 GMT
Never heard of TechRaptor. Do folks consider IGN credible then? www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/01/ea-merges-bioware-montreal-with-motive-studios“The teams in EA Worldwide Studios are packed with talent, and more than ever, we’re driving collaboration between studios on key projects," EA told IGN in a statement. "With multiple major projects in development in Montreal, we are merging BioWare Montreal with Motive Studios. This is an ongoing process, but there are many exciting roles and opportunities for everyone on the team." Seems pretty clear to me. Isn't that word for word what TechRaptor wrote? If so, than TechRaptor's credibility is still the relevant issue.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 1, 2017 5:39:41 GMT
Maybe I'm crazy, but multiple major projects in development in Montreal actually sounds interesting.
Maybe one of them's DLC. Maybe not.
I'll continue with the vague optimism, though if DLC news doesn't come, I'll shrug and play the game again eventually. S'been a while since my last MEA playthrough, and I haven't tried it with all the shiny fixes yet. It was pretty fun before them, and I'm sure I'll get some enjoyment out of my next go around! Not a bad idea to line up a Mass Effect series playthrough around N7 day.
...The hell does Motive studio work on, anyway? Do we know yet? Is it cool?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 1, 2017 5:43:46 GMT
...The hell does Motive studio work on, anyway? Do we know yet? Is it cool? It is helping work on Star Wars: Battlefront 2 with DICE and developing a Star Wars game with Visceral Games.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 1, 2017 6:01:09 GMT
TechRaptor and IGN confirmed it separately? IGN's article says EA told them directly. They got the same statement, too. I'd say this one is accurate unless things are a mess at EA.
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Post by Guts on Aug 1, 2017 6:05:34 GMT
I'm curious at this point? How much of a cluster fuck is this whole Andromeda business compared to the ME3 ending controversy?
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Aug 1, 2017 6:23:20 GMT
Well, if someone is writing good things about MEA, including theories about "incoming" DLC - then he is credible, but if someone else is criticising MEA and saying DLC will not happen by any reason - no no, he is definitely not credible, just another Jason and anti-fan, cheap journalism, clickbait etc. It's simple as that.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 1, 2017 6:27:57 GMT
TechRaptor and IGN confirmed it separately? IGN's article says EA told them directly. They got the same statement, too. I'd say this one is accurate unless things are a mess at EA. Jason Schreier's sock puppets, every last of them! That's the only possible explanation!
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 1, 2017 6:31:06 GMT
This is looking much more reliable to me than 'an anonymous source'.
I'm also reading into 'This is an ongoing process' to mean that any work in progress does not need to stop instantly, but they won't be taking on any new BioWare work as the division merges into Motive; People will move into Motive as they 'free up'.
I'll still holding out for some DLC, as we have to go back to Jade Empire for the last game that didn't get any, it just makes no logical sense otherwise to me with all the 'can't say' posturing.
But even my optimism isn't holding out for more than one piece.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 6:35:07 GMT
Well, if someone is writing good things about MEA, including theories about "incoming" DLC - then he is credible, but if someone else is criticising MEA and saying DLC will not happen by any reason - no no, he is definitely not credible, just another Jason and anti-fan, cheap journalism, clickbait etc. It's simple as that. I'd still look at it with skepticism. It's hard to trust games "journalism" now and days.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Aug 1, 2017 6:44:10 GMT
Well, if someone is writing good things about MEA, including theories about "incoming" DLC - then he is credible, but if someone else is criticising MEA and saying DLC will not happen by any reason - no no, he is definitely not credible, just another Jason and anti-fan, cheap journalism, clickbait etc. It's simple as that.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 1, 2017 6:59:02 GMT
My understanding of the situation is that EA has been building Motive for a while now and that the Bioware Montreal team would have been integrated there regardless, as it's far easier to manage one studio as opposed to two, even if they're in the same building.
EA also chose to focus on other top priority and far more profitable projects like Star Wars and Anthem, and have been reassigning people there. Seeing how heavily Bioware is hiring for Dragon Age it seems like they are really understaffed and it's a wonder DA4 is being made at all.
It's looking more and more to me like the decision to not have MEA DLC is less a reaction to the sales and/or critical reception and more a case of there just not being enough people to work on every project currently underway at EA, and them prioritizing their biggest cash cows for now. It therefore makes sense to say ME is "on ice"; it's not that they'll never make ME content ever again but there just isn't anyone available to work on it right now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 7:09:27 GMT
I'm going to remain positive about MEA DLC till mid-september so we will see if that Lost Ark novel (aka ME:Annihilation) will be released or not. If not then this is a clear indicator that we won't be getting the quarian ark dlc.
Suffice to say I would be tremendously disappointed and don't think will be buying anything from BW anytime soon. I interpret the lack of DLC as a middlefinger towards the fans that enjoyed and supported the game. I'm not joking it would be a long time before I'd feel like buying something from BW again. The disappointment would be even more bitter by the fact they didn't even have as a whole company the transparency to tell what the hell they are doing leaving fans with mindless speculation. Misusing the NDA to hide the fact they abandoned the game would be something that personally as a consumer will not accept.
We shall see and let's hope for the best.
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