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Post by Guts on Aug 1, 2017 21:26:43 GMT
Liam gave some unknown contact vital information regarding the nexus because he was frustrated and impatient with being an "Outsider". I seriously want to punch him in the face for pulling that. Side note: I find it weird that he says soccer, since he's British, considering us Americans are the only ones in the world that really use soccer to describe the sport. Now that is a reason to throw someone out of the airlock. I lol'd.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 1, 2017 21:28:53 GMT
"Well, I like Liam because he is just like me" Well, I hope they never choose a person "like you", a person that gives vital information to strangers out of nowhere, a person with absolutely zero competence, to colonize a new galaxy. So do I.... Though spoilers, I'm actually living in an isolated community where it's been a lot of work fitting in. And part of that has been making some risky outreach choices. I've had better luck, though. I'm not exactly like Liam, obviously, but I get where he's coming from. And that's nice. Occasionally I think he's a flaming idiot, and some of his jokes make me cringe, but I think he's very well written. He's not the easiest to like.... But that's part of what makes him rather realistic. I absolutely think it's fair to think Liam is a human disaster and even to hate him (things rub people different ways), but I think it's rather unfair to just throw the blanket term "poorly written" at him and wash your hands of it. At least in my opinion. Super-likeable characters (Garrus, Liara, DA2 Varric) are the sorts you never seem to bump into. Real people tend to be some form of train wreck, and not just in one easily summed up aspect. I kind of wish I knew a bit more of what he did in crisis response, though. First responders? Cleanup crew? I suspect that's what landed him the job in the pathfinder team. I also suspect Alec intended to knock some of the rough edges off of Liam as they went, something Ryder Junior doesn't seem to manage.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 1, 2017 21:33:41 GMT
I'm still not over the time he called my Ryder a jerk. Throw him out the airlock! Whoa whoa whoa. When did he say that? (Not mad at you I'm curious) It was before the football match, he says something like "Even though you're a jerk"
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 21:34:49 GMT
"Well, I like Liam because he is just like me" Well, I hope they never choose a person "like you", a person that gives vital information to strangers out of nowhere, a person with absolutely zero competence, to colonize a new galaxy. So do I.... Though spoilers, I'm actually living in an isolated community where it's been a lot of work fitting in. And part of that has been making some risky outreach choices. I've had better luck, though. I'm not exactly like Liam, obviously, but I get where he's coming from. And that's nice. Occasionally I think he's a flaming idiot, and some of his jokes make me cringe, but I think he's very well written. He's not the easiest to like.... But that's part of what makes him rather realistic. I absolutely think it's fair to think Liam is a human disaster and even to hate him (things rub people different ways), but I think it's rather unfair to just throw the blanket term "poorly written" at him and wash your hands of it. At least in my opinion. Super-likeable characters (Garrus, Liara, DA2 Varric) are the sorts you never seem to bump into. Real people tend to be some form of train wreck, and not just in one easily summed up aspect. I kind of wish I knew a bit more of what he did in crisis response, though. First responders? Cleanup crew? I suspect that's what landed him the job in the pathfinder team. I think the term, poorly written is used a little too loosely now and days.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 1, 2017 21:44:29 GMT
I think the Andro characters are badly written because their beliefs are contradicted by their actions and motives. Drack: Believes he is useless for a new Krogan society, he does not have anything to contribute. But joins a project that will result in a new Krogan society anyways. Jaal: Believes he must have a promotion within the resistance to find fullfillment and belonging. Despite the fact that the Angara place greater importance on family bonds over hierarchy. Cora: Believes that she has to rely on others for her own purpose. Despite the fact that she grew up in poverty, experienced discrimination as a Human biotic, and probably had to fend for herself. Vetra: Believes her sister is not old enough, or capable enough to understand her works, she wants to protect her from growing up to fast like she did. Thus becoming an overbearing Hammerhead "mom" that smothers her sister's growth. Peebee: Believes that it is easier to keep people at a distance then let them in close because of a betryal of a close friend. By quickly attaching herself to Ryder. Liam: Believes that since none of their objectives in the Andromeda Galaxy has worked out, he has to force everything to happen. Contradicting his years of training that emphasized procedure. With the exception of Jaal, none of these characters have a compelling reason to be in Andromeda other than perhaps they wanted to get away from their past yet brought all their past baggage with them. Jaal has his own special baggage which is shared with the rest of the Angara in that they were created by someone else for reasons unknown (ie the writer's didn't get to that in time, probably). The Angara are even less compelling than the Geth. Drack is dragged by his granddaughter, the main focus of his life. Jaal takes a risk that he hopes will further his career because he's feeling that he's stagnating. It's not like he's neglecting his familial bonds. Cora has a lot of self-doubt under the bluster. She's following from mentor to mentor after the commandos foisted her on the Initiative. Vetra is heavily implied to have pissed off the wrong people in the Milky Way, so part of her flight is protecting her sister. And if you think no one who had a rough childhood would want to protect others from the same (especially the near and dear), I dunno.... Peebee only manages to attach herself by telling everyone she's going to leave repeatedly. Though I can't say I 'get' Peebee. I probably need to hang out more with the character. Liam has a history of kneejerk, spur of the moment choices. Remember, he's pretty young, and he's bounced around a LOT. Since he can't take this one back, he's busting his ass to make it work. Effectively? Eh..... I've played the game twice, a few months ago, and I HOPE I did a pretty decent job of remembering motivations or else I just made a chump of myself on the internet. One thing I quite like about Andromeda is that most of the characters who have any development at all are more than one note. But.... Well, that's just me.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 21:48:32 GMT
With Liam, he's also part of a special crisis response. Which I believe requires people to act quickly. Someone like Liam definitely fit in.
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Post by Guts on Aug 1, 2017 21:49:09 GMT
Whoa whoa whoa. When did he say that? (Not mad at you I'm curious) It was before the football match, he says something like "Even though you're a jerk" Oh
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Post by Guts on Aug 1, 2017 21:54:00 GMT
I think the Andro characters are badly written because their beliefs are contradicted by their actions and motives. Drack: Believes he is useless for a new Krogan society, he does not have anything to contribute. But joins a project that will result in a new Krogan society anyways. Jaal: Believes he must have a promotion within the resistance to find fullfillment and belonging. Despite the fact that the Angara place greater importance on family bonds over hierarchy. Cora: Believes that she has to rely on others for her own purpose. Despite the fact that she grew up in poverty, experienced discrimination as a Human biotic, and probably had to fend for herself. Vetra: Believes her sister is not old enough, or capable enough to understand her works, she wants to protect her from growing up to fast like she did. Thus becoming an overbearing Hammerhead "mom" that smothers her sister's growth. Peebee: Believes that it is easier to keep people at a distance then let them in close because of a betryal of a close friend. By quickly attaching herself to Ryder. Liam: Believes that since none of their objectives in the Andromeda Galaxy has worked out, he has to force everything to happen. Contradicting his years of training that emphasized procedure. With the exception of Jaal, none of these characters have a compelling reason to be in Andromeda other than perhaps they wanted to get away from their past yet brought all their past baggage with them. Jaal has his own special baggage which is shared with the rest of the Angara in that they were created by someone else for reasons unknown (ie the writer's didn't get to that in time, probably). The Angara are even less compelling than the Geth. Drack is dragged by his granddaughter, the main focus of his life. Jaal takes a risk that he hopes will further his career because he's feeling that he's stagnating. It's not like he's neglecting his familial bonds. Cora has a lot of self-doubt under the bluster. She's following from mentor to mentor after the commandos foisted her on the Initiative. Vetra is heavily implied to have pissed off the wrong people in the Milky Way, so part of her flight is protecting her sister. And if you think no one who had a rough childhood would want to protect others from the same (especially the near and dear), I dunno.... Peebee only manages to attach herself by telling everyone she's going to leave repeatedly. Though I can't say I 'get' Peebee. I probably need to hang out more with the character. Liam has a history of kneejerk, spur of the moment choices. Since he can't take this one back, he's busting his ass to make it work. Effectively? Eh..... I've played the game twice, a few months ago, and I HOPE I did a pretty decent job of remembering motivations or else I just made a chump of myself on the internet. One thing I quite like about Andromeda is that most of the characters who have any development at all are more than one note. But.... Well, that's just me. It was because of what happened with Kalinda that she has some pretty serious trust issues. I mean the same thing goes with me, personally prefer to keep myself at a distance; Naturally shy, trust issues, also because one person only made friends with me because they "felt bad for me", which in itself is pretty fucking insulting.
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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 1, 2017 21:55:57 GMT
"Well, I like Liam because he is just like me" Well, I hope they never choose a person "like you", a person that gives vital information to strangers out of nowhere, a person with absolutely zero competence, to colonize a new galaxy. So do I.... Though spoilers, I'm actually living in an isolated community where it's been a lot of work fitting in. And part of that has been making some risky outreach choices. I've had better luck, though. I'm not exactly like Liam, obviously, but I get where he's coming from. And that's nice. Occasionally I think he's a flaming idiot, and some of his jokes make me cringe, but I think he's very well written. He's not the easiest to like.... But that's part of what makes him rather realistic. I absolutely think it's fair to think Liam is a human disaster and even to hate him (things rub people different ways), but I think it's rather unfair to just throw the blanket term "poorly written" at him and wash your hands of it. At least in my opinion. Super-likeable characters (Garrus, Liara, DA2 Varric) are the sorts you never seem to bump into. Real people tend to be some form of train wreck, and not just in one easily summed up aspect. I kind of wish I knew a bit more of what he did in crisis response, though. First responders? Cleanup crew? I suspect that's what landed him the job in the pathfinder team. I also suspect Alec intended to knock some of the rough edges off of Liam as they went, something Ryder Junior doesn't seem to manage. There are a lot of "non-genius" characters that I actually like. Most people don't like DA2, but I liked Merrill. She was a much better representation of "social awkwardness" and "making stupid decisions for a reason" than Liam. The same I can say for Alistair, of Dragon Age: Origins. And these are two believable characters because they join your "team" out of "necessity", not because they were chosen because they were "the best on what they do", like Liam should have been. Like your squad in ME2 was. The term "poorly written" is not wasted on Liam, because ALL HE IS is stupidity and bad jokes. That's all. There's NOTHING beyond that. Liam is the Jar Jar Binks of Mass Effect: Andromeda. Damn, I think that's the best sentence that defines what is Liam.
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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 1, 2017 22:02:10 GMT
Whoa whoa whoa. When did he say that? (Not mad at you I'm curious) It was before the football match, he says something like "Even though you're a jerk" Isn't at the end of this that you have to say "It's good to have you here" or "You're a real asset to the team"? That was the choice that I struggled the most to make in the game, because none of these are true.
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Post by abaris on Aug 1, 2017 22:03:56 GMT
There are a lot of "non-genius" characters that I actually like. Most people don't like DA2, but I liked Merrill. She was a much better representation of "social awkwardness" and "making stupid decisions for a reason" than Liam. Yeah, Merrill was much better in her constant fuckups. Always made me wonder if her naivity was just an act.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 22:06:02 GMT
So do I.... Though spoilers, I'm actually living in an isolated community where it's been a lot of work fitting in. And part of that has been making some risky outreach choices. I've had better luck, though. I'm not exactly like Liam, obviously, but I get where he's coming from. And that's nice. Occasionally I think he's a flaming idiot, and some of his jokes make me cringe, but I think he's very well written. He's not the easiest to like.... But that's part of what makes him rather realistic. I absolutely think it's fair to think Liam is a human disaster and even to hate him (things rub people different ways), but I think it's rather unfair to just throw the blanket term "poorly written" at him and wash your hands of it. At least in my opinion. Super-likeable characters (Garrus, Liara, DA2 Varric) are the sorts you never seem to bump into. Real people tend to be some form of train wreck, and not just in one easily summed up aspect. I kind of wish I knew a bit more of what he did in crisis response, though. First responders? Cleanup crew? I suspect that's what landed him the job in the pathfinder team. I also suspect Alec intended to knock some of the rough edges off of Liam as they went, something Ryder Junior doesn't seem to manage. There are a lot of "non-genius" characters that I actually like. Most people don't like DA2, but I liked Merrill. She was a much better representation of "social awkwardness" and "making stupid decisions for a reason" than Liam. The same I can say for Alistair, of Dragon Age: Origins. And these are two believable characters because they join your "team" out of "necessity", not because they were chosen because they were "the best on what they do", like Liam should have been. Like your squad in ME2 was. The term "poorly written" is not wasted on Liam, because ALL HE IS is stupidity and bad jokes. That's all. There's NOTHING beyond that. Liam is the Jar Jar Binks of Mass Effect: Andromeda. Damn, I think that's the best sentence that defines what is Liam. Liam was one of the first people to check on the unconscious Ryder sibling. He was also very active in trying to get the team closer together in which he succeeds. He's obviously not perfect, but he really cares in trying to unite the Iniative and the Angara and his own teammate.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 1, 2017 22:21:27 GMT
There are a lot of "non-genius" characters that I actually like. Most people don't like DA2, but I liked Merrill. She was a much better representation of "social awkwardness" and "making stupid decisions for a reason" than Liam. Yeah, Merrill was much better in her constant fuckups. Always made me wonder if her naivity was just an act. I saw her naivety as a combination of genuine fish out of water stuff as well as her perhaps being on the Autism Spectrum. That's not an insult, in fact I would love it if that was true.
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Post by warrior on Aug 1, 2017 22:50:48 GMT
It was before the football match, he says something like "Even though you're a jerk" Isn't at the end of this that you have to say "It's good to have you here" or "You're a real asset to the team"? That was the choice that I struggled the most to make in the game, because none of these are true. HAHAHA SAME I was like, Hmmm, here is where I truly see the limitations of this dialogue tree.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 1, 2017 22:51:13 GMT
How the heck are Miranda and Cora the same? They are entirely different characters? One is a handpicked member with extensive biotic training and ability who is assigned as our second in command, she is slow to warm up to us and harbors doubts about our abilities and motivations, but she is won over after we help her resolve her personal issues and the other is a handpicked member with extensive biotic training and ability who is assigned as our second in command, she is slow to warm up to us and harbors doubts about our abilities and motivations, but she is won over after we help her resolve her personal issues and never shuts up about the asari.
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Post by warrior on Aug 1, 2017 23:08:40 GMT
Oh, they certainly didn't. But remind me, what exatly Liam did? I remember his loyaly mission involved some betrayal and fighting Angara but I'm not sure why. Liam gave some unknown contact vital information regarding the nexus because he was frustrated and impatient with being an "Outsider". I seriously want to punch him in the face for pulling that. Side note: I find it weird that he says soccer, since he's British, considering us Americans are the only ones in the world that really use soccer to describe the sport. Canada does, too. So it's a North American thing, not just a US American thing. Is the actor playing Liam not actually British, just doing an accent? Because why wouldn't he say something?
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Post by Guts on Aug 1, 2017 23:15:42 GMT
Isn't at the end of this that you have to say "It's good to have you here" or "You're a real asset to the team"? That was the choice that I struggled the most to make in the game, because none of these are true. HAHAHA SAME I was like, Hmmm, here is where I truly see the limitations of this dialogue tree. The same thing kinda happens with Liara's Time Capsule bit in ME3, as well as Liara in LoTSB. I hated Liara in ME2 and ME3.
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Post by alihou on Aug 1, 2017 23:29:56 GMT
Conceptually they had ideas, but it was executed terribly. We're not really allowed to explore this into much detail. The characters are not fully explored and aren't really affected by our actions. For instance, in Dragon Age inquisition, we can turn a virtuous woman like Cassandra into a drunk depending on our actions. Were allowed to explore the many different extremes of characters. In Andromeda, there's no extreme. The characters are just there and we aren't really allowed to explore them further. We have a bare bones concept of who they are and that's about it. I don't think they're well written at all. Nothing special to be honest.
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Post by RhiannoN7 on Aug 2, 2017 0:15:56 GMT
Yeah, Merrill was much better in her constant fuckups. Always made me wonder if her naivity was just an act. I saw her naivety as a combination of genuine fish out of water stuff as well as her perhaps being on the Autism Spectrum. That's not an insult, in fact I would love it if that was true. I have Autism and I would agree that she falls on the Autistic Spectrum, and it could be the reason behind her percieved naivety. I have no idea if Bioware intended it this way, but throughout DA2 Merrill shows multiple characteristics that would indicate this, I would elaborate if anyone is interested. anyway just wanted to thank Hanako as I have never seen a positive comment towards the condition before... So Thanks
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 2, 2017 1:06:06 GMT
I saw her naivety as a combination of genuine fish out of water stuff as well as her perhaps being on the Autism Spectrum. That's not an insult, in fact I would love it if that was true. I have Autism and I would agree that she falls on the Autistic Spectrum, and it could be the reason behind her percieved naivety. I have no idea if Bioware intended it this way, but throughout DA2 Merrill shows multiple characteristics that would indicate this, I would elaborate if anyone is interested. anyway just wanted to thank Hanako as I have never seen a positive comment towards the condition before... So Thanks You are very welcome. I have it as well. Whether it was intentional or not, I'm thankful to Mary Kirby for writing Merrill the way she did. Edit: A friend asked Mary about it and she said if a player sees evidence to support that interpretation then it is a valid view of the character.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 2, 2017 1:20:36 GMT
So do I.... Though spoilers, I'm actually living in an isolated community where it's been a lot of work fitting in. And part of that has been making some risky outreach choices. I've had better luck, though. I'm not exactly like Liam, obviously, but I get where he's coming from. And that's nice. Occasionally I think he's a flaming idiot, and some of his jokes make me cringe, but I think he's very well written. He's not the easiest to like.... But that's part of what makes him rather realistic. I absolutely think it's fair to think Liam is a human disaster and even to hate him (things rub people different ways), but I think it's rather unfair to just throw the blanket term "poorly written" at him and wash your hands of it. At least in my opinion. Super-likeable characters (Garrus, Liara, DA2 Varric) are the sorts you never seem to bump into. Real people tend to be some form of train wreck, and not just in one easily summed up aspect. I kind of wish I knew a bit more of what he did in crisis response, though. First responders? Cleanup crew? I suspect that's what landed him the job in the pathfinder team. I also suspect Alec intended to knock some of the rough edges off of Liam as they went, something Ryder Junior doesn't seem to manage. The term "poorly written" is not wasted on Liam, because ALL HE IS is stupidity and bad jokes. That's all. There's NOTHING beyond that. Eh. Your mileage may vary, but if that's all you're seeing, I suggest you look a bit harder at Liam. Like everyone else in Andromeda, there's a pile of self-examination (though Andromeda has this problem where everyone TELLS you their issues instead of letting you infer them). There's a frantic need to make this work, because he threw away EVERYTHING else for it. There's a solid friend who'll stick by someone he likes no matter what. And he's surprisingly good at picking up on Jaal's needs, though he has a tendency to project his own insecurities on, say, Vetra. Eventually he figures that out, though. Again, it's 100% fair to say Liam is a jackass. But he's a jackass in a very real way, and that's fantastic. At least that's what I see. That being said, what makes good writing to someone else isn't a hill I'm willing to die on. Agree to disagree.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 2, 2017 1:25:01 GMT
Conceptually they had ideas, but it was executed terribly. We're not really allowed to explore this into much detail. The characters are not fully explored and aren't really affected by our actions. For instance, in Dragon Age inquisition, we can turn a virtuous woman like Cassandra into a drunk depending on our actions. Were allowed to explore the many different extremes of characters. In Andromeda, there's no extreme. The characters are just there and we aren't really allowed to explore them further. We have a bare bones concept of who they are and that's about it. I don't think they're well written at all. Nothing special to be honest. we got to know the characters in the MET through blunt force trama. Through reams and reams of exposition. Not natural conversation. We were told. We weren't shown. In Andromeda we could effect our Characters and even drive them to certain extremes. However i find extremism to not be good writing. Quite the opposite infact. Most people aren't extremists. We tend to fall in the middle. And sure we can be driven to extremism at times...but on the other hand it would be a mistake to assume that Just because we can't drive them to extremes doesn't mean our choices don't matter.
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Post by 10k on Aug 2, 2017 3:10:28 GMT
As I see it every companion from Andromeda were weaker versions of companions from the original trilogy.
Miranda > Cora
Garrus > Vetra
Wrex > Drack
Liara > Peebee
Javik > Jaal
Jacob = Liam ( they were both boring )
Nuff said. They were all clones of better characters.
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Sleuth
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Post by Qolx on Aug 2, 2017 3:12:11 GMT
@trilobite_derby your comment reinforces my point. You described actions that contradict the character's beliefs, motives, and background.
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Innocuous Alaskan
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Trilobite Derby
Drinking rosehip tea, independently.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Aug 2, 2017 3:31:05 GMT
@trilobite_derby your comment reinforces my point. You described actions that contradict the character's beliefs, motives, and background. Realistic characters aren't usually distilled down to one note. And I didn't see contradictions so much as nuance and detail. But hey, your prerogative.
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