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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 14:56:42 GMT
Just read this article. Agreed with most of it, but why doesn't anybody talk about one of the biggest reasons for all the hate: Sera and Cassandra? Hetero males who felt neglected by the opposite sex options in DAI were primed to hate MAE. Big time. When the animations turned out to be lousy, they had a good excuse to viciously attack the game. Many games like Skyrim and Fallout (even Witcher 3!) have had their flaws, but gamers were/are more forgiving because they had never been made to feel abandoned. There's a bit a eye-candy in these games, even though they aren't romance RPGs. People like eye-candy, both men and women. That's a fact that is never going to change. But the media seems to pretend its not a factor in people's purchases. Male fear of female power in games (and in society generally) is real, and the lack of traditionally beautiful, feminine females in DAI confirmed that fear for a LOT of guys and contributed greatly to the hate parade. And yet nobody is talking about it in the media. Bioware can save itself a LOT of grief by including a few Yennefers (strong, powerful AND beautiful) in their next game, or even just one. We are all afraid to talk about this because we are afraid of being branded misogynists, but ignoring the issue won't help Bioware in the long run. www.vg247.com/2017/08/02/mass-effect-andromeda-had-its-problems-but-bioware-montreal-really-deserved-another-chance-to-get-it-right/
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Post by BadgerladDK on Aug 2, 2017 14:58:18 GMT
Cassandra is awesome, you heathen.
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Post by bigbad on Aug 2, 2017 15:01:11 GMT
Hetero male here. I liked Cassandra.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 2, 2017 15:02:55 GMT
Cheap bait.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 2, 2017 15:04:45 GMT
What are we discussing here, the article or a random theory? Confused. We're not doing the 'Cassandra looks like a man' discussion again.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:06:08 GMT
The elephant
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Post by bigbad on Aug 2, 2017 15:06:48 GMT
What are we discussing here, the article or a random theory? Confused. I skimmed the article and did not find any obvious connection to the content in the OP.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:09:48 GMT
What are we discussing here, the article or a random theory? Confused. I skimmed the article and did not find any obvious connection to the content in the OP. Exactly my point. The elephant.
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Post by kumazan on Aug 2, 2017 15:10:02 GMT
Terrible bait, but I'm giving you points for a going beyond a one liner, faking a thought process behind this cheap troll.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:11:07 GMT
What are we discussing here, the article or a random theory? Confused. We're not doing the 'Cassandra looks like a man' discussion again. No. Let's not go there. Focus on the elephant. Seriously, don't you think there would have been less hate if guys hadn't been primed by DAI?
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Post by bigbad on Aug 2, 2017 15:13:47 GMT
I skimmed the article and did not find any obvious connection to the content in the OP. Exactly my point. The elephant. I also don't recall any articles about MEA bring up the fact that hundreds of people every year are abducted by aliens and then experimented upon in secret science facilities on the moon. How come nobody is talking about the effect of alien abduction on MEA sales? Why don't they want to bring it up, huh? Maybe that the real elephant.
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Post by cribbian on Aug 2, 2017 15:17:34 GMT
Cassandra is top waifu
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2017 15:18:34 GMT
Cassandra having the scar on her cheek makes her that much more attractive. excellent
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:19:22 GMT
Exactly my point. The elephant. I also don't recall any articles about MEA bring up the fact that hundreds of people every year are abducted by aliens and then experimented upon in secret science facilities on the moon. How come nobody is talking about the effect of alien abduction on MEA sales? Why don't they want to bring it up, huh? Maybe that the real elephant. So you don't think any hetero males were turned off by DAI? Male fear of female power in games is real, and the lack of traditionally beautiful, feminine females in DAI confirmed that fear for a LOT of guys and contributed greatly to the hate parade. And yet nobody is talking about it in the media.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 2, 2017 15:22:19 GMT
I guess it is the same reason why Scott Ryder looked a lot like the source material whereas Sara didnt
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 2, 2017 15:23:19 GMT
Guys, don't waste too much time trying to work through the OPs arguments logically. His whole style is to do everything with indirection; my take is that he knows that his social views will be contemptuously dismissed if he ever owns up to them, so he hides them behind a smokescreen. His "Cakes and Ale" thread a few months black was a classic of the form.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 2, 2017 15:25:28 GMT
I also don't recall any articles about MEA bring up the fact that hundreds of people every year are abducted by aliens and then experimented upon in secret science facilities on the moon. How come nobody is talking about the effect of alien abduction on MEA sales? Why don't they want to bring it up, huh? Maybe that the real elephant. So you don't think any hetero males were turned off by DAI? Male fear of female power in games is real, and the lack of traditionally beautiful, feminine females in DAI confirmed that fear for a LOT of guys and contributed greatly to the hate parade. And yet nobody is talking about it in the media. I think that is why a lot of male gamers like to highten TW3 and bash Bioware. To them, TW3 IS the anti Bioware game for many reasons. I mean lets be honest, TW3 is aimed towards the hetero male gamer while games like DAI were geared towards everyone else. CDPR is sort of like the Bioware alter ego.
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Post by bigbad on Aug 2, 2017 15:30:44 GMT
So you don't think any hetero males were turned off by DAI? Male fear of female power in games is real, and the lack of traditionally beautiful, feminine females in DAI confirmed that fear for a LOT of guys and contributed greatly to the hate parade. And yet nobody is talking about it in the media. I think that is why a lot of male gamers like to highten TW3 and bash Bioware. To them, TW3 IS the anti Bioware game for many reasons. I mean lets be honest, TW3 is aimed towards the hetero male gamer while games like DAI were geared towards everyone else. CDPR is sort of like the Bioware alter ego. I think that TW3 is just about the most impressive video game I've ever experienced. I think it's vastly superior to both DAI and MEA in most respects. I also happen to think that Cassandra was great character, and she had fuck all to do with MEA's overall reception.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:35:20 GMT
Guys, don't waste too much time trying to work through the OPs arguments logically. His whole style is to do everything with indirection; my take is that he knows that his social views will be contemptuously dismissed if he ever owns up to them, so he hides them behind a smokescreen. His "Cakes and Ale" thread a few months black was a classic of the form. If I have to defend my social views, let me say again: The only Lefty thought-crime I think I'm guilty of is wishing Bioware would include more Yennefers and Mirandas. I am unashamed of my desires. Otherwise, I live in downtown Vancouver (LGBTQ central) and voted for Trudeau and wish he'd govern more from the left, like he promised. I don't know what else I can say to prove to you I'm not a GG creep.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:37:04 GMT
So you don't think any hetero males were turned off by DAI? Male fear of female power in games is real, and the lack of traditionally beautiful, feminine females in DAI confirmed that fear for a LOT of guys and contributed greatly to the hate parade. And yet nobody is talking about it in the media. I think that is why a lot of male gamers like to highten TW3 and bash Bioware. To them, TW3 IS the anti Bioware game for many reasons. I mean lets be honest, TW3 is aimed towards the hetero male gamer while games like DAI were geared towards everyone else. CDPR is sort of like the Bioware alter ego. I agree. W3 gave hetero men what they want. Hence, partly, the willingness to forgive its flaws.
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Post by Psychevore on Aug 2, 2017 15:38:44 GMT
'I want goddamn pornstars in my game who are only there to be fucked brutaly by me and serve me, cause I am the epitome of manliness and bitches just needa be hot'
Is what the OP wants to say but doesn't have the balls for.
You're welcome.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Aug 2, 2017 15:41:32 GMT
I mean lets be honest, TW3 is aimed towards the hetero male gamer while games like DAI were geared towards everyone else. Lulwot PS. Looking forward to Luzarius showing up and teaching us about anatomy
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Post by derrame on Aug 2, 2017 15:44:14 GMT
there is not a single one attractive woman in DAA or MEA, it's obvious
in the witcher 3 there are attractive and ugly, ricj and poor, powerful and weak of all genders of all species , and everyone is happy with that game, tw3 is probably the most awarded game ever
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Aug 2, 2017 15:50:26 GMT
'I want goddamn pornstars in my game who are only there to be fucked brutaly by me and serve me, cause I am the epitome of manliness and bitches just needa be hot' Is what the OP wants to say but doesn't have the balls for. You're welcome. Can you see the logical fallacy here? If you're 100% A, you must be 100% Z. In fact, Yennefer is my gold standard female character. If anything, she's got Geralt (me) on a tight leash. She's even more dynamic in the Witcher novels. And Geralt's vulnerability is even more on display. Listen to the audiobooks. Gorgeous, sensitive. Very human, moving stories.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 2, 2017 15:54:23 GMT
I mean lets be honest, TW3 is aimed towards the hetero male gamer while games like DAI were geared towards everyone else. Lulwot PS. Looking forward to Luzarius showing up and teaching us about anatomy Bioware goes out of their way to male sure that their game is accepted by all demographics and that isnt a bad thing. With TW3, it is my perception that while many different demographics could enjoy the game, their target audience was the hetero male gamer.
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