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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 4, 2017 0:10:27 GMT
I felt embarrassed having it on my console so I deleted it. Cheer up, buy a PC. I have a PC, I only use it for good games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 0:20:09 GMT
I felt embarrassed having it on my console so I deleted it. Someone told me that you have 300+ hours logged.
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Post by azuremazey on Aug 4, 2017 0:43:01 GMT
Oh there were definite issues and more time for release to fix said issues would have been great. But what I meant was, they seemed to focus solely on that and not comment on say combat, scenery, or anything else. Just kept posting Addison memes to justify why the game is so "terrible", all the while, not even playing it. I saw a video of the running animation with Swiggity Swooty, I'm comin' for dat booty, and I legit laughed. I mean, it's funny. I still bought the game and played it, and I personally enjoyed it. I'm telling you. 1.09 renewed my confidence in BioWare. My confidence needed renewing though. The miserable launch coupled with Inquisition's miserable launch for PC last time. I just thought all the wrong things and made a lot of awful assumptions, but some of my patreon recipients were sending out the very same negative stuff. I've switched recipients quite a bit this month because my skepticism meter threw too many red flags up. 1.09 can stand on its own legs despite what was said five months ago. The consensus is changing and I noticed it. The shop in this podunk town is running the game and online. I was jealous. The game is great. Three playthroughs and I'm the Pathfinder. I want more. Oh that's awesome to hear! I need to do another playthrough, but I'm waiting on some PC upgrades to get installed before I do. I want to see Andromeda in all it's High Res glory. Even on the lowest setting, I thought the planets were beautiful. I've always enjoyed the stories in BioWare games, so I figured I'd like Andromeda. I got to start playing Monday night before the official release day and just loved the journey I was being taken on. That's something I've found consistent with their games, for me. I know it's not the same for everyone, and that's fair enough.
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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 4, 2017 0:55:51 GMT
I felt embarrassed having it on my console so I deleted it. Someone told me that you have 300+ hours logged. I have 100% on Xbox one, no where near 300 hours though. Did it all in one play through, fell sleep a few times so that probably pushed the total hours played.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 1:08:58 GMT
Someone told me that you have 300+ hours logged. I have 100% on Xbox one, no where near 300 hours though. Did it all in one play through, fell sleep a few times so that probably pushed the total hours played. Just kidding.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 4, 2017 1:10:12 GMT
perhaps but we really can't know that for sure considering at the outset they wanted to do something different from the trilogy. The dialogue problems might not have been fixed with ten years development time. maybe not but they might have tightened up the story with a bit more time. meh story is probably the tightest its been in a bioware game.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 4, 2017 1:13:19 GMT
I felt embarrassed having it on my console so I deleted it. Someone told me that you have 300+ hours logged. "Your fifth late arrival has been verified and logged." Props to anyone who knows the reference.😁
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:24:15 GMT
Things that were completely FUBAR in Andromeda at launch:-
1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Cringey dialogue 4) Lack of Platinum mode in MP 5) Various crash bugs in both SP and MP 6) Asari Clones Things that have been fixed since patch 1.09 :-1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Platinum mode added to MP 4) Crash bugs Things that remain broken even after patch 1.09 :-1) Cringey dialogue 2) Asari Clones So as you can see 4/6 major problems were fixed but there is no redemption for the laziness of the writing and the lack of face models for the Asari. Only a sequel would be able to overcome those problems now. All in all, the game isn't half bad. EA need to learn to listen though when one of t; 9 heir branches says they need more time to polish up. Yeah they can still fix the Asari clones, but for the dialogue at this point I do not think they can really fix much sadly That would take too much time and effort and given how little effort EA is going to give towards Andromeda now I think what we have now is all we are going to get sadly.
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:26:54 GMT
I agree with the video for the most part as my criticisms was mainly a lacking storyine and uninteresting characters.... and yes while playing the game, the characters seemed like the stakes was never high or that nothing was taken too seriously...basically the dialogue in certain parts of the game was uninspired. Those are the real issues with this game outside of it's launch issues with respects to it's facial animations and story glitches.....the game for me was a solid 8 before the patches and is still a solid 8 afterwards.... As far as being too harsh?....yeah we all know some folks out on youtube went a bit overboard with their criticisms of the game and the game itself has incredible art direction and design. The game is nowhere near as bad as some of those youtube videos make them out to be... Yeah I feel the exact same way obviously haha! I feel a lot of youtubers did it for quick clicks and to get noticed sadly I mean people were comparing it to No Man's Sky and the game was no where close to as bad as that game.
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:29:03 GMT
Yes. It was plain to see even immediately leading up to release that many had made up their minds long ago, and lo and behold: it was memed into oblivion and shitting on it just became the popular thing to do, as people were tripping over themselves to make their own shitty clickbait videos with their super original hot takes on how terrible it is. Not that there weren't legitimate criticism to be made, because it's definitely a flawed game. I personally consider it good, but not great. It would've needed to be "one of the greatest games ever made" level of quality to even remotely escape the snowball effect of mockery. Yeah I agree, with it coming out right around the time Breath of the wild coming out it needed to be nothing short of excellent, and it had such big shoes to fill that it needed to atleast be around a 9 in terms of its average score, sadly it fell somewhere around a 7.
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:35:18 GMT
We are talking about majority of fanbase and critics, not every single individual.. obviously Mmgh, tbh, I think the OP wanted to get views of his/hers video on UTube. I do not really like the gilt-tripping caption/thread title as someone who always liked Andromeda. I have nothing to feel bad about in respect to Andromeda and BioWare. If the title said "was I..." or even the "were the Metacritic fan scores..." okay, that would have been more accurate. I'm sorry you feel I only wanted more views for the video, while true I do appreciate more views my video is till relatively small as is my channel so obviously this ill not help me much more. I just wanted to discuss Andromeda with other fan as I never really voiced my opinion till now. Sorry if the title bugs you, I am still relatively new at youtube and trying to figure out how to optimize everything.
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:37:27 GMT
I can only speak for myself and I don't think I was too harsh. But then, I never jumped onto the animation hate train or anything. I criticized ME:A harshly for a lot of things but all those things, I stand by to this day. I also praised the game for other things it did well, especially in the gameplay department and I do give credit for the devs (who are apparently not in a great position these day) for knocking out these patches and trying to keep fixing and improving things, so there is that. Overall, I have rated the game in the mid to high 70s for myself shortly after release and that hasn't really changed. I think it's a good game over all, it just didn't quite live up to the trilogy games, which I just consider brilliant overall. If people find that too harsh, I'd say they should take a step back and consider the objectivity of their own views. I agree with the game being around the 70s, as someone else in this thread said I believe most of the professional reviews were on point to how I felt, but the level of overall hate from basically the entire vi doe game community was astonishing.
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Post by SheaprdGamingYT on Aug 4, 2017 3:43:57 GMT
I still haven't finished this game because I don't care enough about the....oh good. I've forgotten the name of the sh*tty villains. Were we too harsh? Gee...are we critiquing art projects of 3rd grade children or are we talking about 60-100 dollar video games we purchase instead of other items to entertain ourselves? This was a flaccid follow up to a fantastic trilogy. Five years of build up and anticipation and we get this boring half-assed meander through empty environments? Voice acting that sounded like they did casting out of a local homeless shelter? I just finished playing Mass Effect 2 and decided to replay the Witcher 3 next. Very different games that are both good for different reasons and both so much more engaging that ME:A. You know how when you go to a fast food restaurant and the person there makes it quite obvious to you they would rather do anything else than serve you? That's the way ME:A feels; the people that made this game would have rather been doing anything else than make that game. The 'I don't give a flying sh*t about this game' just permeates it. Well, they got my money. So mission accomplished. I got suckered. But for me, it's the last straw. I won't buy another Mass Effect game because of how poorly this one was made; assuming they bother to make one. So short answer? No, 'we' weren't too harsh. We weren't harsh enough. Yeah I understand that. Mass Effect 2 really is a masterpiece haha I just made a video about it because I've beaten it like some 14 times now XD. Also I'm still working on the Witcher 3 because I have taken my time with it! I disagree on how harsh we were still but that is only my opinion, I can see where you are coming from.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 4, 2017 3:47:20 GMT
Things that were completely FUBAR in Andromeda at launch:-
1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Cringey dialogue 4) Lack of Platinum mode in MP 5) Various crash bugs in both SP and MP 6) Asari Clones Things that have been fixed since patch 1.09 :-1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Platinum mode added to MP 4) Crash bugs Things that remain broken even after patch 1.09 :-1) Cringey dialogue 2) Asari Clones So as you can see 4/6 major problems were fixed but there is no redemption for the laziness of the writing and the lack of face models for the Asari. Only a sequel would be able to overcome those problems now. All in all, the game isn't half bad. EA need to learn to listen though when one of their branches says they need more time to polish up. I still don't understand the dialogue criticism. I thought it was fine.
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Post by Guts on Aug 4, 2017 3:55:08 GMT
I agree with the video for the most part as my criticisms was mainly a lacking storyine and uninteresting characters.... and yes while playing the game, the characters seemed like the stakes was never high or that nothing was taken too seriously...basically the dialogue in certain parts of the game was uninspired. Those are the real issues with this game outside of it's launch issues with respects to it's facial animations and story glitches.....the game for me was a solid 8 before the patches and is still a solid 8 afterwards.... As far as being too harsh?....yeah we all know some folks out on youtube went a bit overboard with their criticisms of the game and the game itself has incredible art direction and design. The game is nowhere near as bad as some of those youtube videos make them out to be... Yeah I feel the exact same way obviously haha! I feel a lot of youtubers did it for quick clicks and to get noticed sadly I mean people were comparing it to No Man's Sky and the game was no where close to as bad as that game. I think No Man's Sky was a different beast entirely in terms of negativity towards the game. I think with Andromeda, people liked it, love it, were apathetic towards it, or just flat out hated it. With NMS, there was a SHITLOAD of hate towards the game, and Sean Murray, the criticisms towards NMS were totally valid, not saying the one's towards Andromeda aren't, it's just in the case of Andromeda, some of them were seriously overblown. In terms of Youtubers hating on ME:A to get clicks, I always think of Yongyea. (Nothing more needs to be said there) I agree that the story was rather lacking in areas, but I disagree with the characters, I will agree, that the stakes never really felt like they were high. I think this issue comes from Bioware not really knowing what to do with the overall tone. In terms of people still hating on NMS. I haven't seen many people talk about it aside from some of the major updates the game got, like the pathfinder update. (Not related to Andromeda lol) Side note: Should I buy NMS the next time it's on sale? (I'm a PC user)
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Post by colfoley on Aug 4, 2017 3:57:39 GMT
Things that were completely FUBAR in Andromeda at launch:-
1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Cringey dialogue 4) Lack of Platinum mode in MP 5) Various crash bugs in both SP and MP 6) Asari Clones Things that have been fixed since patch 1.09 :-1) Face and body animations 2) Character creator 3) Platinum mode added to MP 4) Crash bugs Things that remain broken even after patch 1.09 :-1) Cringey dialogue 2) Asari Clones So as you can see 4/6 major problems were fixed but there is no redemption for the laziness of the writing and the lack of face models for the Asari. Only a sequel would be able to overcome those problems now. All in all, the game isn't half bad. EA need to learn to listen though when one of their branches says they need more time to polish up. I still don't understand the dialogue criticism. I thought it was fine. there is a few lines here and there most noticeably during the First Murder in Andromeda quest. And the infamous dialogue choice during Liam s soccer game. But there are just as many good ones. Aksuul and Jaals conversation positively crackles and Ryders disbelieving "why would you do that?" to Liam for the loyalty mission always makes me chuckle.
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Post by Guts on Aug 4, 2017 3:59:16 GMT
Exactly my thought's Sara. I'm not sorry.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 4, 2017 4:12:38 GMT
I still don't understand the dialogue criticism. I thought it was fine. there is a few lines here and there most noticeably during the First Murder in Andromeda quest. And the infamous dialogue choice during Liam s soccer game. But there are just as many good ones. Aksuul and Jaals conversation positively crackles and Ryders disbelieving "why would you do that?" to Liam for the loyalty mission always makes me chuckle. I would say the cringe is on the level of the MET which was cheesy but not really noticeable.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 4, 2017 5:32:34 GMT
I would also like to add that many of the complaints for MEA were the same that people had with DAI. The only difference was that DAI sold well and got high review scores. Therefore the complaints were brushed asside. With MEA, it got low review scores and was torn apart in the 10 hour "beta" which then forced EA to listen.
I wonder what lessons the DA4 teams is learning from Andromeda?
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Post by Guts on Aug 4, 2017 6:25:31 GMT
I would also like to add that many of the complaints for MEA were the same that people had with DAI. The only difference was that DAI sold well and got high review scores. Therefore the complaints were brushed asside. With MEA, it got low review scores and was torn apart in the 10 hour "beta" which then forced EA to listen. I wonder what lessons the DA4 teams is learning from Andromeda? I haven't played DA:I (Have no interest in it), but why didn't some of the professional reviewers criticize DA:I for some of those issues?
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Post by vonuber on Aug 4, 2017 6:46:14 GMT
Mass Effect 2 really is a masterpiece haha I just made a video about it because I've beaten it like some 14 times now XD. Yeah but it really isn't, it has serious flaws which are masked by some good character writing and a few good missions.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 4, 2017 7:32:09 GMT
Mass Effect 2 really is a masterpiece haha I just made a video about it because I've beaten it like some 14 times now XD. Yeah but it really isn't, it has serious flaws which are masked by some good character writing and a few good missions. Pretty much all BioWare games have 'serious flaws'. Yet we love them inspite of that.
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Post by abaris on Aug 4, 2017 7:39:59 GMT
I have a PC, I only use it for good games. And you know beforehand if it's good? Begs the question why you buy bad games at all.
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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 4, 2017 8:17:41 GMT
I have a PC, I only use it for good games. And you know beforehand if it's good? Begs the question why you buy bad games at all. He told me to buy a pc, I already had one. I had doubts about ME-A so I purchased it on console then if it was good I would buy it on Pc, so I didn't. Is that too hard to understand?
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