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Post by ProbeAway on Aug 4, 2017 22:01:29 GMT
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. DA supported other species as the PC from the beginning. Not terribly difficult for the DA team, since all of their species have similar facial features and expressions. AFAIK, the ME team has never suggested they would consider supporting a PC of any species other than human. I can't see them ever doing that, though they could potentially be willing to consider producing a DLC where you play a character of another species (though I wouldn't expect that character to be highly customizable). Or perhaps a segment where you play another character, similar to playing Joker during the collector abduction in ME2. Other than that, I can't see it happening. The other thing they (ME development team) would need to consider is the face-scan technology they implemented for the CC in MEA, and the non-existence of other species to scan IRL. Plus, all the backlash from people who were dissatisfied with the CC they released. After all of that, I'm pretty hard pressed to imagine they'd want to try to build CCs to support multiple spec Yeah, with DA, it's essentially fantasy flavors of human, and despite the claim of ME's aliens being a planet of hats affair, they're still sufficiently separate and alien enough that working into multirace selection would be watered down. I would love a brief sequence like the Fort Drakon rescue or sibling battle though. Making it a special event in the game is always fun. This is exactly how I feel. The aliens in ME are already human enough without taking away what little mystery they have. I'm 100% against being able to play through a whole game/story as one of the alien species because I don't want their behaviour humanised any further. A brief section in a game or a DLC would be fine, if done well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:04:40 GMT
I doubt the elcor would have a jetpack , more likely to be a tank character, very heavy hitting and its purpose is to draw enemies to him while the other more mobile characters flank. In theory, sure. But the current design/balance of MEAMP really couldn't accommodate such a character. It is more a movement-based shooter than a cover-based shooter - a lot of enemies can stagger and damage you through cover, and there are enemies with enormous health/armor/shield pools that would repeatedly attack a slow-moving/stationery elcor until dead.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 4, 2017 22:14:30 GMT
No, there wasn't a CC. So, do you think it's a cool idea for a short-term DLC that can give more variety to MP? For me the Quarians, Volus and Elcor are the easiest ones to make that happen. I don't see much differences with Elcor (listen... I'm not a racist... I just don't see it. Forgive my insensitivity.) and they would have some optional stuff like a lit cigar. Now... that... would be cool. What do you think? Elcor for MP? That would be interesting but slow. So am I. But I'm carrying a portable missile launcher on my back. I think that trumps slow.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 4, 2017 22:15:46 GMT
I doubt the elcor would have a jetpack , more likely to be a tank character, very heavy hitting and its purpose is to draw enemies to him while the other more mobile characters flank. In theory, sure. But the current design/balance of MEAMP really couldn't accommodate such a character. It is more a movement-based shooter than a cover-based shooter - a lot of enemies can stagger and damage you through cover, and there are enemies with enormous health/armor/shield pools that would repeatedly attack a slow-moving/stationery elcor until dead. Maybe next installment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:35:29 GMT
Elcor for MP? That would be interesting but slow. So am I. But I'm carrying a portable missile launcher on my back. I think that trumps slow. You haven't played MEAMP, have you? (the cobra rpgs have been nerfed to the point where they'll barely kill a low-level mook. Also, survival really relies on mobility.)
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 4, 2017 23:06:00 GMT
So am I. But I'm carrying a portable missile launcher on my back. I think that trumps slow. You haven't played MEAMP, have you? (the cobra rpgs have been nerfed to the point where they'll barely kill a low-level mook. Also, survival really relies on mobility.) You got me. No. It's all about "git gud." I'll come out with my headset and skillz one day. Maybe around February when I'm home for good.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 4, 2017 23:24:15 GMT
So am I. But I'm carrying a portable missile launcher on my back. I think that trumps slow. You haven't played MEAMP, have you? (the cobra rpgs have been nerfed to the point where they'll barely kill a low-level mook. Also, survival really relies on mobility.) Uh not in my experience and I last played 3 days ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 23:41:44 GMT
Which?
The cobras that don't do much damage or the need for mobility?
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 4, 2017 23:48:56 GMT
Which? The cobras that don't do much damage or the need for mobility? Cobras. I used them in my last few matches to one hit kill destroyers and Hydras.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 0:07:48 GMT
Which? The cobras that don't do much damage or the need for mobility? Cobras. I used them in my last few matches to one hit kill destroyers and Hydras. A direct, timed hit on lower difficulties can do that. Not so much when you play on higher difficulties. bsn.boards.net/thread/12162/patch-moment-silence-loss-cobra
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 5, 2017 0:17:36 GMT
Yeah my MP character is still low level.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 5, 2017 0:38:08 GMT
Yeah my MP character is still low level. me too. gittin' gud later.
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Post by bshep on Aug 5, 2017 0:53:25 GMT
Truth be told it's not much of a bother on gold. Even one missile is still enough to drop the shields and destroy the turrets on a Destroyer, leaving it pretty much defenseless.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 5, 2017 1:04:23 GMT
Maybe. The idea of playing as a different race is exciting, but it's disappointing when the choice is offered and you're just treated like a human anyway. Elves in DAI are probably the best Bioware has done and even that isn't perfect ("Who is Mythal?").
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 1:33:36 GMT
Truth be told it's not much of a bother on gold. Even one missile is still enough to drop the shields and destroy the turrets on a Destroyer, leaving it pretty much defenseless. According to the data chart (linked from the link I originally provided), a cobra rpg will do 88% of the damage required to drop a destroyer turret on gold. The only enemies they can one-shot on platinum are breachers, destined, and agent clones. The MP section has collected quite a lot of hard data. But to get back to my original point, the cobra rpg in MEAMP is not gonna save yer butt if you're not mobile.
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Post by Arcian on Aug 5, 2017 3:08:29 GMT
Obvious costs, though. A lot of the dialogue which is particular to Ryder being Alec's kid and the new Pathfinder would have to be rewritten to something generic. Some other rewrites too -- Cora, SAM, a few others. And then a bunch of race-specific dialogue so we're not just playing a reskinned human, or the project's pointless. This argument makes no sense. It's like saying people shouldn't be able to play as dark-skinned Shepards or Ryders because it doesn't include skin color-specific dialogue.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 5, 2017 4:59:56 GMT
In terms of gameplay, they already have the assets from the mp so it wouldn't have been that difficult from that perspective. However, the only thing that would be difficult would be to have it make sense from a story perspective. It would been perfect time to introduce it to as all know about the Asari, Salarian, and the Turians. as opposed to ME1 where we didn't know much about this races and it would have been difficult to role play as compared to Human. It absolutely could have worked. I think it could have worked well. It would just have been a very different game. Personally I prefer having a human player character in ME and I think some of the charm of the series would be lost. It's very much a series about your player character, in the ME trilogy Shep is the focus and the driving force and similarly for Ryder. DA is about Thedas and your character is just someone along for the ride who happens to get involved and sometimes in a pivotal way, so player character diversity really suits that. But it would totally have worked.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 5, 2017 7:28:28 GMT
Obvious costs, though. A lot of the dialogue which is particular to Ryder being Alec's kid and the new Pathfinder would have to be rewritten to something generic. Some other rewrites too -- Cora, SAM, a few others. And then a bunch of race-specific dialogue so we're not just playing a reskinned human, or the project's pointless. This argument makes no sense. It's like saying people shouldn't be able to play as dark-skinned Shepards or Ryders because it doesn't include skin color-specific dialogue. This is silly. Interspecies conflict and social issues has always been a thing in Mass Effect. Race-specific dialogue is essential in actually implementing multiple alien species as playable characters or it's just a waste of time. Why bother playing something other than human if you can't get any meaningful content exclusive to it? If another random krogan address your krogan PC, why would he or she always address them the same as they would a human, turian, asari or salarian? Given that krogan typically have issues with turians and salarians, those two races in particular should have special dialogue among certain members of that faction too. Without it, it's meaningless. Tann would be more of a dick to the krogan Pathfinder in particular, as befitting his character, and possibly having more favorable dialogue to a salarian. In Dragon Age: Origins, if my elf was unable to have special shit-talking dialogue to humans at any point, it'd be bullshit.
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Post by qwib on Aug 5, 2017 9:37:15 GMT
Although I wouldn't cry to play a Salarian. The clipping issues, the weird animation and the lack of race specific Quests for my Dwarf Inquisitor, left a bad taste in my mouth.
Or maybe it's the monotone, bored out of his mind Voice Actor.
IMO: If Inquisition is any indication, I would rather not ruin another of my favourite races. lol
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 5, 2017 18:01:47 GMT
Obvious costs, though. A lot of the dialogue which is particular to Ryder being Alec's kid and the new Pathfinder would have to be rewritten to something generic. Some other rewrites too -- Cora, SAM, a few others. And then a bunch of race-specific dialogue so we're not just playing a reskinned human, or the project's pointless. This argument makes no sense. It's like saying people shouldn't be able to play as dark-skinned Shepards or Ryders because it doesn't include skin color-specific dialogue. KaiserShep's handling the substance. I'll just express my confusion. You're saying that you're OK playing an alien which really is just a reskinned human? What's the point?
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Post by n7vakarian on Aug 5, 2017 21:05:53 GMT
I've always wanted Bioware to do this again since the first Dragon Age. Sadly they have never done it even though Mass Effect fans did ask for race selection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 21:20:58 GMT
A quarian player character would solve a lot of problems with facial animations...
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Post by Arcian on Aug 6, 2017 2:06:36 GMT
This argument makes no sense. It's like saying people shouldn't be able to play as dark-skinned Shepards or Ryders because it doesn't include skin color-specific dialogue. KaiserShep's handling the substance. I'll just express my confusion. You're saying that you're OK playing an alien which really is just a reskinned human? What's the point? "You're saying that you're OK playing a female character which really is just a reskinned male character? What's the point?"
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 6, 2017 3:23:47 GMT
KaiserShep's handling the substance. I'll just express my confusion. You're saying that you're OK playing an alien which really is just a reskinned human? What's the point? "You're saying that you're OK playing a female character which really is just a reskinned male character? What's the point?" That's the same kind of false equivalence though. Real life issues like race and gender among human beings are substituted with issues of fictional species, which is exactly what Dragon Age did. No one gives a shit if you're man or woman, but they give a shit if you're an elf.
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Post by alihou on Aug 6, 2017 3:37:52 GMT
Yep totally. Missed opportunity for the long awaited different alien options. Hell Bioware took so much from DAI except for the best thing about it, playable races!!!! So instead they went for a human centred story. If you're gonna do that, you better damn well deliver in the writing department. They obviously didn't. There was nothing unique or intriguing enough to have Ryder as a playable character.
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