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Post by fatherjerusalem on Aug 7, 2017 3:14:45 GMT

If we're going vanilla vs. vanilla, then MEA takes it for me, because I VASTLY prefer the combat in it, and the exploration (jet pack!) is much better than in DAI.

If we're going full DAI vs. vanilla MEA, then DAI takes it because the dlcs were all quite excellent, especially Trespasser - one of the best dlcs I've played in quite a while. Not up there on the level of Citadel or Assault on Dragon Keep, but close.

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Post by lucretia on Aug 7, 2017 3:22:51 GMT

I enjoyed Andromeda. It has flaws, yes, but it's far from being a bad game. It's probably the weakest BioWare game I have played - not that that's saying much, since I overall have really loved all of them.

Inquisition is better in my opinion, and it's actually among my top 3 favorite games ever.

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Post by jjdani on Aug 7, 2017 3:30:44 GMT

Yes I think dai was better. Although I was overall disappointed with inquisition, to me andromeda was alot worse. I don't think either of them were bad games just disappointing. Trespasser made inquisition alot better though and made me look foward to the next game.

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Post by qwib on Aug 7, 2017 5:14:48 GMT

Inquisitions saving grace are the Companion Interactions and the Soundtrack, but when you are done, you kind of have to leave the Keep and go out there. This is when you think "Oh I only uncovered 20% of the Hinterlands, I wonder what interesting things I will discover." and after 30 hours you realize, absolutely nothing interesting has happened. NOTHING.

This is Inquisition for me in the nutshell. -80% clutter of boring nonsense and this game could have been good.

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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 7, 2017 6:54:00 GMT

I prefer DAI; this might be a bit biased though as DAO was the first Bioware game I played. To me MEA had superior combat (I enjoyed the jet pack in particular) and visuals, but DAI had better CC, companions, story, music, and just general "feels". Both suffered a bit from having too many big areas without plot-relevant quests, and both also suffered from a decrease in player control over companions.

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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Aug 7, 2017 7:15:15 GMT

DAI
POSITIVE: quite good main story - Cory wasn't great, but at least he got some origin and his story works well with DA lore + connection to Hawke and DA2, much better companions - Varric, Iron Bull, Dorian, Solas, Blackwall + some amazing companions quests - Blackwall story is absolutely 10/10 for me, soundtrack is a small masterpiece, great customization options.

NEGATIVE: badly done and boring combat, maps are too big and too empty, too much "find and grab" stuff, Skyhold after some time become a great fortress full of manequins, you need to do main-story quests quite often or you will fall asleep with many boring side-quests...Very small re-play value.

MEA
POSITIVE: Quite interesting story in the terms of Andromeda/Jaardan,a lot of fun with discovering ancient stuff, great combat, Nomad, stunning graphics, Drack and Peebee, some interesting secrets from Milk Way which we have to follow.

NEGATIVE: Very weak story in the terms of Kett - Archon is a joke, final fight with him ? Transformers ? Shame on you BW. Most of the companions ? Blah. Their personal quests ? Even more blah. New galaxy - 2 races only ? Both humanoid ? Blah. Was really so hard to make a race like Rachnii ? Didn't feel that I am in the new galaxy, some planets looks way to similar to each other. They look way too earth-ish. Also bit tired with this Human-Asari-Turian BioWare scheme. Asari clones. Blah. Customization options for companions ??? Soundtrack - is there any ? Re-play value ? Next to none.

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Post by ioannisdenton on Aug 7, 2017 9:15:18 GMT

DaI is the superior game for me WITH all the dlcs but andromeda really really improved some aspects of inquisition like:
All zones have a major questline.
No more collectathons (i did not mind that in inquisition anyway).
Multiple great storylines that contribute to the overall arc, like pathfinder memories, mystery,
kett-inside friction, jaardan-remnant mystery , and tons of subplots.
A FUCKING GREAT final mission with a playable EPILOGUE and tons of interactions afterwards.
Andromeda felt complete whereas inquisitions original ending and boss were lukewarm , trespasser elevtaed the game to a 10/10 in my eyes.
Also andromeda's final tenths of hours whcih include the 2 last missions, missing arcs and loyalty missions were spirlaing upwards in terms of excitement and how great the game felt. if the game started with a 7/10 then is surely only went upwards in these last hours.
This left a lasting taste in me and i really wanna replay the game .
Finished it yesterday btw after 2.5 months and 180 hours at 97%.

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Post by abaris on Aug 7, 2017 9:39:59 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 0:27:39 GMT anarchy65 said:

It had fun battles (especially the dragons), some interesting characters (Blackwall kinda surprised me, I thought he was going to be the "mainstream Grey Warden hero", Iron Bull was cool, Solas and his view of the Fade (and his true identity) were really nice, Dorian was another good addition, and Varric was still fun.

The characters all were enigmatic and interesting in some way. They really put a lot of love into their backstories. There's also the struggle over who's gonna be the next divine. A choice that's not written in stone but can be influenced by the player in one way or the other. It's so much more show don't tell than Andromeda. And even after numerous playthroughs there's still something new to discover in the companions alone.

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Post by fredvdp on Aug 7, 2017 10:02:01 GMT

I quite like Mass Effect Andromeda (I completed 3 playthroughs), but DAI is a much better game. My reasons:

DAI has a far more memorable cast of characters.
DAI allows quick travel to any explored tent on any map without unskippable cutscenes to piss off SSD owners.
While open world doesn't suit either game's combat system, it's even less suitable in MEA.
Fetch quests are worse in MEA. It's even required for some loyalty missions and they're across planets, so you have to sit through planet transitions just to complete menial tasks.
DAI has a better storyline.
DAI has a better overall presentations (graphics, music, polish).

Mass Effect Andromeda, on the other hand, has a better ending mission. DAI's ending, not counting Trespasser, had a disappointing boss fight and felt a bit too safe. The post-credits scene also spoiled the surprise of one of the DLCs.

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Aug 6, 2017 23:10:20 GMT majesticjazz said:

Witcher 3 or KOTOR

Well I'll agree with you on that. However I'd rate both Andromeda and Witcher 3 the same. 9/10.

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Andromeda is at best, a passable, mediocre, unfinished, uninspired game which was doomed with bad development decisions and changes in directions, and it's still now, after all the patches. The Witcher 3 is one of the greatest video games ever produced, even before the patches or even if it's not your type of game.

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Post by Kappa Neko on Aug 7, 2017 11:02:31 GMT

DAI is a MUCH better game. Both are TERRIBLE open world games, but DAI had great character writing and a very cool subplot reveal and Bioware's best (?) secret villain. And very fun crafting, good score, much better character design, CC and so on.

The only good thing about MEA is the combat and environment textures. DAI's combat is the worst aspect of the game and the most boring slog of all Bioware games I've played. That said I still prefer ME3's combat. The sound design was so much better and I hate the weird auto-cover MEA introduced.

DAI is a GOOD game but I wish Bioware ditched open world. They suck at it and the whole thing does their narrative no favors, nor replayability. I prefer DA2 over DAI, I think.
I prefer any previous Bioware game over MEA, greatly so.

MEA is a 6/10 at best judged by itself. (Would probably give it a 2/10 for a Mass Effect game based on the enjoyable combat). I'd give DAI an 8/10 or something compared to DAO, DA2 and the trilogy.

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Post by henkiedepost on Aug 7, 2017 11:28:52 GMT

Absolutely not. DAI was worse for me in almost every way. The things I don't like about MEA are also almost all concepts Bioware tried for the first time in DAI. The stupid zoom-in conversations are the biggest offenders, followed by the (in my humble opinion) very weak sidequests and overall dull and uninspired open worlds. I'm also not a big fan of the way Bioware handles resource gathering and crafting in their latest RPG's. The way I place it here is quite crude, but I've fleshed out these points multiple times in the past and am currently not able to write full fledged posts on my mobile phone.

Luckily for me, MEA atleast has a decent story, cool companions and good combat. All things I also disliked in DAI. I'm also a bigger fan of the underlying lore and space setting. That's why I gave Andromeda a 7.5 after I finished it and refuse to rate DAI because I just can't finish the game.

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Post by darkway1 on Aug 7, 2017 11:37:01 GMT

Actually I just bought the game of the year edition of DAI,PSN have it on sale at £7.99.......I already own the game but missed out on a few dlc and it was cheaper to buy the GOTY edition than individual DLC's.

After a failed attempt at replaying Andromeda,I deleted it and installed DAI again.......instantly the characters,the opening scenario,the character creation etc all held my attention and popped my interest.......Andromeda just never had the same effect.

Just like Andromeda,I have some harsh opinions regarding DAI but even so,the creative quality of DAI is head and shoulders above Andromeda,which I feel brought nothing new to the table beyond improved 3rd person shooting mechanics.

It's an odd situation really,I always though Mass Effect over shadowed Dragon Age and yet here we are.......4 months after release,the Bioware Studio responsible is no more,who could have ever predicted that out come???

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Post by cypherj on Aug 7, 2017 12:26:56 GMT

I thought DA:I was a better game, but I don't think it's really fair to compare them.

I was more invested in the DA:I story, but the one thing that DA has going for it is that even though you changed characters you still have ongoing themes from previous games that you're invested in. The Mage/Chantry conflict, the Grey Wardens, etc. ME is built on the protagonist, while DA is built on the world.

I liked the character in DA:I more, as they seemed more varied. But once again since you had themes that carried over, your companions had feelings towards things like the circle, or Grey Wardens, so you could have arguments, disagreements, discussions with them on the topic or decisions you made regarding these things. That wasn't there for me really in ME:A.

Even though I thought the combat was fun in ME:A, you had more control over your companions in DA:I. I also thought that the dragon fights were better and more varied than the architect fights in ME:A as far as end game boss fights went.

I wasn't blown away by the antagonist in either game, and both did a poor job with questing the open world. Though I thought the actual areas in DA:I were better and more varied than in ME:A. I found myself stopping and taking screenshots far more often in DA:I than I did in ME:A.

All in all I thought DA:I was a better game, and this is without taking DLC into consideration.

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Post by vanth on Aug 7, 2017 12:51:23 GMT

DA:I was the first Bioware game I actively disliked. It was the first Bioware game I didn't buy the DLC for. I hoped it was a blip and Bioware would return to form. And since I love ME generally I thought I would give them a second chance with ME:A. I was wrong, and I think ME:A is an even worse game than DA:I. I still haven't finished it (another first - I finished DA:I) and keep coming back here occasionally to see if the game has been improved in some way. I realise this is wishful thinking but I soooo want to like ME again.

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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 7, 2017 13:23:11 GMT

Aug 6, 2017 23:16:46 GMT Cyberstrike said:

They are equally great.

Certainly not equally.

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Post by force58 on Aug 7, 2017 13:42:19 GMT

Aug 6, 2017 16:13:14 GMT CHRrOME said:

Curious about this since I was thinking about that the other day. Obviously this only works if you're actually into Dragon Age.
I personally liked more Inquisition (which is not saying that much tbh). Not overall, though. Inquisition's combat and skill system are just disgusting to me, but the story as a whole is better imo.
I'm comparing the two because DAI technically wasn't super well received by everyone either, and it was the latest game before Andromeda released. I don't intend to compare apples with rocks.

Notice also, that I never played any of Inqusition's DLCs, I may praise it even more if I ever play Trespasser which everyone seem to have in such high regard.
What I liked more about Andromeda was the combat (can't go wrong since it's gun-fire type of combat anyways, not much to it, and Mass 2 already did good in that department) and the skill system although the 3 powers limitation was bullshit tbh, especially when they let you switch up to 4 profiles anyways. Experiment borrowed from Inquisition and it's dumb tiny skill bar that made no sense.
Dragon Age is not even my favorite franchise, mine was always Mass Effect.

I tried many times to get into DA:I but could not. I played the hell out of it but just never completed it. On the other hand, ME has always excited me and I enjoy playing it a lot. I've got so many hours in ME:A, beat the campaign, and now just finishing up on side missions. Ryder Family Secrets was one of the best side missions I've ever played in any game. I don't understand how people had a problem with Andromeda. The story and character development is awesome and I felt the same for these characters as I did in the past series. It's number 1 for me.

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Post by bizantura on Aug 7, 2017 14:14:14 GMT

For me, this is an apple/orange question.

I am enamored more with the ME franchise but MEA turned out to be a slick shooter and RPG too light with horrible protagonist + companions.
So the myriad complaints why MEA was so called not good on launch does not apply for me. When I play MEA, I do it for the overall storyline + well-integrated sidequests and slick shooting upgradable hardware diversity. I get my kicks mainly out of that last part and the rest is the carrier to that fun, nothing more.

DAI has more elements that up the fun. Great protagonist + companions + overall story + combat fun. I am also a sucker for what most perceive as "grinding". So DAI is a better product overall and what I seek in an RPG to my enjoyment.

Could the launch of MEA have been better, of course, but I have yet to encounter a game on release bugless. I am tired of EA pictured as a big bad wolf company. It is a big corporation so it comes with all the downsides that entail. For me the whole structuring of "corporations" is amoral but not a story for this forum.

Suffice to say, I am not happy with what I think and project Bioware is heading with their games. To date, Bioware and Bioware/EA have given me countless hours of fun. Good enough for me. And the future, simple wait and see.

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Post by griffith82 on Aug 7, 2017 14:45:28 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 10:44:00 GMT Estaq99 said:

Aug 6, 2017 23:14:11 GMT griffith82 said:

Well I'll agree with you on that. However I'd rate both Andromeda and Witcher 3 the same. 9/10.

Was that a bad joke?

Andromeda is at best, a passable, mediocre, unfinished, uninspired game which was doomed with bad development decisions and changes in directions, and it's still now, after all the patches. The Witcher 3 is one of the greatest video games ever produced, even before the patches or even if it's not your type of game.

Yeah shocking that opinions vary.

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Post by warrior on Aug 7, 2017 16:04:06 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 3:14:45 GMT fatherjerusalem said:

If we're going vanilla vs. vanilla, then MEA takes it for me, because I VASTLY prefer the combat in it, and the exploration (jet pack!) is much better than in DAI.

If we're going full DAI vs. vanilla MEA, then DAI takes it because the dlcs were all quite excellent, especially Trespasser - one of the best dlcs I've played in quite a while. Not up there on the level of Citadel or Assault on Dragon Keep, but close.

Everyone repping Trespasser here all the time is making me really excited to play it/replay DAI.

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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 7, 2017 16:35:55 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 16:04:06 GMT warrior said:

Aug 7, 2017 3:14:45 GMT fatherjerusalem said:

If we're going vanilla vs. vanilla, then MEA takes it for me, because I VASTLY prefer the combat in it, and the exploration (jet pack!) is much better than in DAI.

If we're going full DAI vs. vanilla MEA, then DAI takes it because the dlcs were all quite excellent, especially Trespasser - one of the best dlcs I've played in quite a while. Not up there on the level of Citadel or Assault on Dragon Keep, but close.

Everyone repping Trespasser here all the time is making me really excited to play it/replay DAI.

It's an excellent DLC I will say that and a great way to wrap up DAI's story.

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Post by ioannisdenton on Aug 7, 2017 16:42:38 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 11:02:31 GMT Kappa Neko said:

DAI is a MUCH better game. Both are TERRIBLE open world games, but DAI had great character writing and a very cool subplot reveal and Bioware's best (?) secret villain. And very fun crafting, good score, much better character design, CC and so on.

The only good thing about MEA is the combat and environment textures. DAI's combat is the worst aspect of the game and the most boring slog of all Bioware games I've played. That said I still prefer ME3's combat. The sound design was so much better and I hate the weird auto-cover MEA introduced.

DAI is a GOOD game but I wish Bioware ditched open world. They suck at it and the whole thing does their narrative no favors, nor replayability. I prefer DA2 over DAI, I think.
I prefer any previous Bioware game over MEA, greatly so.

MEA is a 6/10 at best judged by itself. (Would probably give it a 2/10 for a Mass Effect game based on the enjoyable combat). I'd give DAI an 8/10 or something compared to DAO, DA2 and the trilogy.

terrible open world games?? you mean ubisoft open word games are better? In myeyes bioware open world do suffer from a loose storyline compared to their Non open world games but at least they still vastly outperform most other non bioware open world games.

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Aug 6, 2017 23:14:11 GMT griffith82 said:

Aug 6, 2017 23:10:20 GMT majesticjazz said:

Witcher 3 or KOTOR

Well I'll agree with you on that. However I'd rate both Andromeda and Witcher 3 the same. 9/10.

andromeda has way more replay value than wicther3. my 2nd playthorugh in tw3 was a chore to play, different biuld sure but the combat was the same, the diferent main story outcomes and the barrons were disapointing and Ciri as a wictheres plaed in compaiosn to the empress ending which admitady brought tears in my eyes.
Still TW3 is a beast of a game but i wouldnot play it again.
Now i ve only finished andromeda yesterday after 190 hours and 2.5 months but i reall y wanna play as Sarah , biotic as in my playthrough i put no points in biotic skills, romance anopther character and be more proffesional.
Wicther simply lacks that.
Inquisition also has tons of replaybility.

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