Andromeda and SJW influence: Delusional Rage or Unfortunate Reality? (Discussion)

Really? Where?
Unless you consider "troll" or "illiterate" an insult. 
The guy just ignored pretty much everything I said and accused me of saying anti-sjws and nazis are the same thing. That's being a troll, which means he is acting in bad faith, or he's illiterate and can't read what I've been saying the whole thread

I consider insult things like "bastard" and "piece of shit"

I don't expect any.

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I just hope you learn from it. 

Well, I said that because he's really acting as one of those two. 

And sincerely, I posted an opinion I think it has a logic and it wasn't meant to be offensive, no matter if you agree with it or not. But just not reading anything I said to accuse me of saying nazis and "anti-sjws" are the same thing is, yes, bad faith or illiteracy. 

I think part of the problem both sides seem to be having with the inclusion of LGBT characters relates to the "show, don't tell" rule. Ie, something shown through gameplay mechanics or atmosphere is usually regarded as far superior (and better storytelling) to telling the same exact thing through dialogue or exposition text. Here's the thing though... How exactly do people propose showing LGBT qualities through gameplay mechanics? Especially in a setting where non-heteronormity or transgender "ism" (the act of being transgender, wasn't sure on the right terminology) are usually obscured by genetic modification or in-utero?

So if Abrams (who I never got the option to ask, even before the patches) never TOLD you outright that she was transgender, you would not have been able to identify her AS transgender, therefore wouldn't BE transgender in the first place. Thus, without anyone TELLING you, there wouldn't be transgender representation at all in the industry. Remember, games are not real life and people can speculate all they want, but without either that or confirmation from the developers there's no way to prove either way whether someone is transgender or not, or homosexual or not.

Do I want better representation for the LGBT spectrum in games? Absolutely. But yelling at Bioware for not being able to conceivably do otherwise is kind of missing the mark. Also remember; first time developers who only worked on MULTIPLAYER before.

How about just accept that the creator is free to insert his/her view and leaning into the work at will. Even if it's straight up sjw propaganda so what?
People accept authors in other medium creat work laced with their agenda and view point , I don't see why video game is different. All works of creative art are biased, whether they are intended or not. And it's not this is aimed at kids or something, we are all old enough to evaluate infos on our own.

Montreal provided support on some of the singleplayer DLCs for ME3, and created the entirety of the Omega DLC with minimal help from other Bioware studios.

Granted, most of the people involved with the ME3 projects had gradually filtered out of Montreal over the course of Andromeda's development, and it is very likely that a portion of the people involved with Andromeda had never worked on a game before period.

Unless you change neurobiology of only women to slant their interests in a way where they occupy military positions and display occupational aggression/assertiveness in the ratio you see in this game, it's not merely a question of changing mores in the future. All the women in this game are heroines or aggressive leaders. It's so one sided compared to the much broader range of male depictions in this game where you get losers, grunts, cowards, and especially the incompetent. It has the whole Horizon Zero Dawn syndrome of the perfect career woman trope. Do you think it's just by accident that the women designed in the future have appearances that are masculine, but maybe they're not masculine because masculine has changed? If that were the case, the men in this game would be looking different as the definition of masculine shifts.

Moreover, you can have interactions with your squadmates where they aren't airing their emotional issues to you. There's nothing preventing the writers from making the squadmates talk to you about their interesting work or center the game around coworker relationships as they actually happen most of the time. Why shouldn't professional smugglers be more stoic, aloof, and closed off?

Do you truly think Vetra is any better off by constantly undermining her depiction with her sob story about her sister? It's why Reyes is a fun character to begin with, just like Sloane. They're scoundrels, and they don't need to pull at your heart strings with some sad origin story to get you to sympathize.

Hell, Cora gets close to how it should be done with her tales about her Asari commando adventures, While Jaal and Liam and Vetra are among the worst offenders. Suvi also does a good job od centering her dialogue on her work and contribution to the Tempest rather than her personal demons.

You're not their therapist. Leave the family issues and psychological complexes to Lexi.

SJW = Salty Judgemental Wackjob

I found this comment from JV2017gameplay's video on "MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA: Why I Don’t Believe These Ideas Ruined Andromeda at Bioware Montreal!", I won't name the guy who made this comment for the sake of keeping people anonymous, but I felt I should dissect his comment:

"I loved the combat. Loved it, but the characters all took 20 steps back. Not one character from adromada was as good as the trilogy. I also believe it was from SJW's... The women are ugly. You might not agree, but why!? Why make them ugly!? Who gains from this....? And they did make them ugly. Tons of people have came out and said it. And their personality is horrid.... oh god Cora... the whole "I'm an Asari commando" thing. We get it, your special... and your strong and broke your racial limits.... YOU ARE A HUMAN! Just quit ruining lore! You asked question trying to come up with a empty answer. I have one for you... why put a transgender in there at all?

Oh and the racist guy working there is more of an example of if he works there what are the rest like

Honestly I really wish I could actually talk to you... I could go on and on, but I can't over comment. I really think you can't see the picture (not trying to insult). Instead of asking why would they do this. ask why did they? Why did they do short hair? Why did they have a transgender? Why did they have horribly ugly women when there are some decent men"

OK, I agree on combat, don't agree on the characters for the most part, but then again, I didn't expect a character in ME:A to surpass a character like Guts from Berserk. Agree on Cora not shutting up about Commandos (Gee, I never knew you served asari Cora.), but seriously how was that ruining the lore? In terms of making females characters ugly, that can very VERY easily be linked to people who weren't competent with Frostbite. The bit about "Why did they make female characters ugly." sort of comes across a bit like playing the victim a little bit. I do agree about Manveer Heir being a total bellend though. I can also agree that the Hanely Abrams thing could be linked to a"SJW influence", but that's a very minor thing.

(Feel free to call me out if I'm acting like Jason Schreier on twitter.)