Andromeda and SJW influence: Delusional Rage or Unfortunate Reality? (Discussion)

Alright, this doesn't speak to Bioware writers having a supposed SJW bias, but does anyone think they have a liberal democracy bias?

One of things I don't understand about the Andromeda Initiative is why creating a representative democratic goverment is the end goal of seemingly all of the colonists. The asari have a direct democracy where their are no politicians or elections and everyone votes on online forums on what the state as whole should do. The turians are a miltant meritocracy ala Starship Troopers where only Primarchs get to vote on things. The salarians have a matriarchical feudal system of nobles running things. And the Krogan are tribal and think Might Makes Right is a fine system of governance. My point is, you'd think that a coalition of all these races would at least have a debate or conflict about what kind of government they ultimately want the Initative to have in a new galaxy away from the Citadel. Instead, we get nothing and have everyone just talk about how elections are going to be a thing eventually. Now I'm a big, big fine of liberal democracy but I would have liked alien races in this game to be alien and have ideas and notions of government that was different and weird.

The only answer for this as far as I can imagine is because Bioware didn't want the good guys in this lighter and softer Bioware to talk about the merits of stratocracy or feudalism.

Bethesda used to have a rule on their forum that threads of a certain length would get closed because they had 'run their course'.
(That doesn't preclude anyone restarting the topic in the future after we've had a rest.)

I'm very tempted to run that '20 page rule' on this thread, locking it on request after that point, because we're rolling around in circles, here.



If this post gets a few 'likes' I'll take that as 'consent' to the principle...

I could still point this issue to ME:A's writers playing things waaaaay too safe.

In reality, those being chosen would be the strongest, fittest and best skilled to build up a new civilization. Drack already is the one out. At his age he wouldn't have been chosen at all. Same with Gil, who just now noticed he reached a point of no return. He never would have made it through the selection process. Not with only 20.000 people on each arc.

Have you actually read the more recent posts? No? Didn't think so.

Nope, because they are more recent...
I can see that the thread has a little life yet.

Wait a second. How often does the topic come up with characters who aren't human or asari? Tann seems to be OK with maintaining the AI's corporate structure indefinitely. (Wouldn't a well-run corporation map pretty well onto turian concepts of government?)

It doesn't. Turians barely ever talk about the meritocracy and salarian never talk about the nobility. Might as well all be modern humans in weird cosplay.

I don't see how you're getting to that conclusion. If they're not talking about a topic, that can't possibly be evidence that they think about the topic the same way modern humans do. It's not evidence of anything.

Well neither of those examples imo are better than democracy. Especially feudalism.

I'd agree with you, but for MEA, you have to avoid pulling on any loose threads, lest the whole thing unravel. There were so many missed opportunities, that's just one of many.

(NOTE: I'm midway through my first run of MEA, so if any of the following is explained later in the game, please ignore my noobish ignorance. And please don't spoil.)

One thread that I had to stop pulling on was, who the hell funded the Initiative in the first place? Was Jien Garson the Shadow Broker? Were the "powerful benefactors" the Bavarian Illuminati? Where did all that money come from, and how did the powers that be not try to control some/all of it? I mean, just how weak was Earth clan government if a privately funded initiative could field better tech than the entire civ's military industrial complex? Actually, make that a second privately funded initiative, Cerebus being the first. That's a fuck lot of money that wasn't under government control.

And how did the coalition get put together and keep together during the long construction period, given the hoops Shepard had to jump through just to get everyone to play nice, even when their own civilizations were at stake? It was well established in the OT that the various civs would do just about anything other than cooperate with each other.

Anyhoo ... see what I mean? Pull on any loose thread and all you get is a tangled mess.