Andromeda and SJW influence: Delusional Rage or Unfortunate Reality? (Discussion)

oh lord. Last thing I'd want is ME WoW style.

On how censorship claims usually fail:
I dunno... two weeks ago I learned that the city where I work (Frankfurt) has passed some kind of law that forbids the use of overly sexual ads in public places like bus stops. They've gone to court against several companies.
I'm conflicted about this. On the one hand I DO see almost pornographic ads as a bad influence on teenage girls. But I'm not sure I support outright banning everything. It's a form of art cencorship. Even if it's shitty commercial art.

Another example from Germany: A vegan woman got a folk song banned from being played as chimes because it promotes violence against animals. It's just an old song about farmers shooting foxes that kill their chickens! This is cultural heritage. Everybody knows the song. But this woman made a fuss online so the city decided it's best to not play it anymore. WTF?!

There is something seriously wrong with people's sensitivities these days. But now they go online and cause trouble for everyone just because they can. Because it's some kind of fucked up power trip. They can get men in trouble easily these days throwing around accusations of sexual harassment and rape. And I'm saying this as a woman and not a scared paranoid man.

So people like Anita are not exactly harmless. They do influence people. Didn't they change or want to change Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad because its not ok anymore to show weak abused women because it's a bad example? That's ridiculous!

On Tumblr people asked to boycot and tried to shame M. Night Shyamalan for his film Split. Because his depiction of multiple personality disorder is evil... Never mind that it's a stupid horror movie nobody else takes seriously. But these people wrote virtual death threats.

It's not really funny anymore to me what's going on. It definitely wasn't like this ten years ago or even five.
This isn't going to ruin our favorite escapism forever but it's not helping either.

True...this isn't real World bigotry. But Mass Effect and Dragon age aren't based in our World.
My point was, Bioware -or at least David Gaider- did a damned fine job of portraying such things in the Dragon age books and games. To say bigotry doesn't exist -fantasy or no- in Bioware games, would be a lie.

Yeah, I'm glad the mods didn't have to shut this one down, then again, you don't get people like pouf/fluffy coming on here calling people who criticized Andromeda or even hated it "Not true fans". Things would've gone to shit real quickly.

The comments of that video are downright sad. It's amazing how many people hate and bash the game without playing it.

Heh, there is a young attractive white guy cast as a main lead and he can sleep his way across the Galaxy, having access to 8/10 romance options, human, alien, boys and girls. He defeats the verse full of real evil mighty opponents with a tiny bit of help of his plain Jane sis (but you can make her hot too) and a magic sword he got from his mighty but dead daddy. Sucks to play a male in this game, yeah.... so very different than any other video game.

"SJW's ruined the game," is nonsense. But it's a mistake to dismiss those jabbing the accusing finger of SJW and BLM as delusional. I'm not saying any argument they make has a shred of fact or logic behind it -- usually the opposite -- but all that passion and solidarity belies a very disturbing societal trend that we ignore it at our peril; that white and (male) might make right, that their worldview is the natural order of things, and that contradicting that natural order is doing evil.

Take the whole Cassandra is ugly meme. They claim that Cassandra was purposely made ugly to support some kind of crypto-SJW agenda, and that by doing so the natural order of things has been violated. They cast themselves in the light of the defenders of the natural order. They think they are the good guys! And they are very committed to that belief.

While not about the anti-SJW tribe specifically, this vid about #GamerGate builds a very useful framework for analyzing this and similar social trends -- which is to say, he rips apart their nutty ideas like an intellectual Terminator. And he makes this extremely relevant point:

Compared to how I feel about some anti-SJW's you don't seem so bad, tell me though, what mistakes are we talking about?

I want to avoid the gamergate thing like the bubonic plague. It's REALLY a case of, "You're either with us or against us." It's either:
A. You're a misogynistic bigot.
B. You're a libtard social justice warrior.
It's really a case of pick your poison. (I'll take cyanide, just so I don't have to deal with that shit.)

It's mostly rage, yeah. Andromeda has issues, but any perceived SJWisms are way, way down the list. Only thing that comes

There's no denying that Bioware has over the years had some topics in their games related to progressive politics, but it's always been background more than anything put on the forefront so it has never bothered me.

Plus, a lot of people like to say that they view games as art. Well artists have always produced their works through a particular lens, and sometimes with a message. Art is neither a democracy nor a documentary, it doesn't have to be neutral, doesn't have to please everyone, and sure doesn't have to refrain from any theme that may or may not be political lest some people get their panties in a twist because a game displayed an element that makes them rage. This applies to all ends of the political spectrum by the way, the ones who hate on Bioware are far from the only ones with this attitude.

If we shy away from games being anything but safe, consensual Transformers-esque mindless fun, well that may be entertaining for some but it's then hard to take any claim of artistic value seriously. You either view games as art and accept that not all art spreads a vision you like, or you don't.

Also it's funny to see some act as if Bioware ''became too PC''. This being the studio that tried to fit a lesbian alien into a Star Wars game before Tumblr even existed.

Their anti-lookism stance led them to create less than ideal female characters. This led many men to feel they were being lectured to:

Bioware to the hetero male gamer: "Your desires are wrong. We will fix them for you."

Hence the rage.