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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 25, 2023 21:42:40 GMT
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Post by Alfonsedode on Sept 29, 2023 9:10:30 GMT
I m late to the party as usual ! we tried to start s2 last week and were so lost during the "previously" sequence, we watched the s1 summary which was shitty ("5 key points of s1") and maybe something else but still were completely lost. We went on to see S01ep8 instead, and watched its "previously" at least 3 times to get into it ! . It s really a great episode and season ending, so cool, except i would have liked the wise woman hero to stay dead I was really positive starting s2e1, but it slowly wore off and i was almost bored at the end. What a slow start with many shitty scenes and character reset imo. I stay confident it ll be better next episode. At least Rosamund is still the boss (not story wise but show wise) Though whyTF all the team with the bigblackHero chasing Fain was dead at the end of season one ??? The choice that Lews Therin Telamon and Latra Posae Decume were discussing was whether or not to launch an attack on the Dark One, directly.
LTT wanted to, and wanted to take the strongest channelers, both male and female. The reason he wanted this was that the 'greatest works of the Power' were always achieved by the two sexes working together (linking, like the ladies did to protect Fal Dara from the Trollocs). Way more power, far more precise. Just better in every way.
LPD favoured another approach. Using two absurdly powerful sa'angreal (like the little statue Rand had in e8). One female, the other male.
They both had the same goal - seal the Dark One away. But the problem with LPD's plan was that the access keys for (I forget which) one of the sa'angreal had been lost behind enemy lines. And LPD refused to go to the fight without them.
She argued that without the added power the sa'angreal offered, the chance of success was too low and the opportunity for the Dark One to retaliate was too high. So she forbade all the most powerful women from going.
LTT went with the 99 other most powerful men (him being the most powerful) and attacked the Dark One, trying to seal him away. It worked...sort of. But because it wasn't 'perfect', the Dark One was able to lash out and taint the male half of the Source, which is why men who channel now go crazy.
The question - which is entirely rhetorical - is, was LPD right? The sa'angreal plan she favoured wasn't possible, so her options were do nothing, or follow LTT. If she'd followed him and the women had been present, then it's possible the Dark One would've been perfectly sealed away, and the utopia they'd built would go on. It's also possible that without the sa'angreal, that the Dark One would've been able to taint both sides of the Source, so everyone - male and female - who channeled would eventually go mad. Ultimately, she chose to do nothing, LTT and the Hundred Companions went to Shayol Ghul and won...just.
Then they went crazy, and 'Broke the World'. When LTT finally died, it was because of a moment of lucidity forced on him so that he could see what he had done. The grief he felt caused him to draw too much of the Power and he burned himself to a cinder (again, like the ladies protecting Fal Dara), but because of his insane strength, the effect was a massive bolt of energy that created the mountain of Dragonmount...which is the mountain seen in the opening of e8 where Rand was born. The final resting place of the Dragon, was the birthplace of the Dragon Reborn. thanks a lot for this, i just understood (again) what happened in the previous cycle way better ! And i think i m just noticing (again?) your tag name , lol. also just to be sure : the 100 male now mad channellers destroying the world are the ones putting it 1000 years back, which was what was expected if they lost to the evil guy ?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 29, 2023 21:17:59 GMT
I m late to the party as usual ! we tried to start s2 last week and were so lost during the "previously" sequence, we watched the s1 summary which was shitty ("5 key points of s1") and maybe something else but still were completely lost. We went on to see S01ep8 instead, and watched its "previously" at least 3 times to get into it ! . It s really a great episode and season ending, so cool, except i would have liked the wise woman hero to stay dead I was really positive starting s2e1, but it slowly wore off and i was almost bored at the end. What a slow start with many shitty scenes and character reset imo. I stay confident it ll be better next episode. At least Rosamund is still the boss (not story wise but show wise) Though whyTF all the team with the bigblackHero chasing Fain was dead at the end of season one ??? The choice that Lews Therin Telamon and Latra Posae Decume were discussing was whether or not to launch an attack on the Dark One, directly.
LTT wanted to, and wanted to take the strongest channelers, both male and female. The reason he wanted this was that the 'greatest works of the Power' were always achieved by the two sexes working together (linking, like the ladies did to protect Fal Dara from the Trollocs). Way more power, far more precise. Just better in every way.
LPD favoured another approach. Using two absurdly powerful sa'angreal (like the little statue Rand had in e8). One female, the other male.
They both had the same goal - seal the Dark One away. But the problem with LPD's plan was that the access keys for (I forget which) one of the sa'angreal had been lost behind enemy lines. And LPD refused to go to the fight without them.
She argued that without the added power the sa'angreal offered, the chance of success was too low and the opportunity for the Dark One to retaliate was too high. So she forbade all the most powerful women from going.
LTT went with the 99 other most powerful men (him being the most powerful) and attacked the Dark One, trying to seal him away. It worked...sort of. But because it wasn't 'perfect', the Dark One was able to lash out and taint the male half of the Source, which is why men who channel now go crazy.
The question - which is entirely rhetorical - is, was LPD right? The sa'angreal plan she favoured wasn't possible, so her options were do nothing, or follow LTT. If she'd followed him and the women had been present, then it's possible the Dark One would've been perfectly sealed away, and the utopia they'd built would go on. It's also possible that without the sa'angreal, that the Dark One would've been able to taint both sides of the Source, so everyone - male and female - who channeled would eventually go mad. Ultimately, she chose to do nothing, LTT and the Hundred Companions went to Shayol Ghul and won...just.
Then they went crazy, and 'Broke the World'. When LTT finally died, it was because of a moment of lucidity forced on him so that he could see what he had done. The grief he felt caused him to draw too much of the Power and he burned himself to a cinder (again, like the ladies protecting Fal Dara), but because of his insane strength, the effect was a massive bolt of energy that created the mountain of Dragonmount...which is the mountain seen in the opening of e8 where Rand was born. The final resting place of the Dragon, was the birthplace of the Dragon Reborn. thanks a lot for this, i just understood (again) what happened in the previous cycle way better ! And i think i m just noticing (again?) your tag name , lol. also just to be sure : the 100 male now mad channellers destroying the world are the ones putting it 1000 years back, which was what was expected if they lost to the evil guy ? Heh, yeah, I wanted DragonReborn when I first joined the old, old BioWare forums way back, but it was taken. The male channellers that went to Shayol Ghul - the 100 Companions - were the most powerful male channellers in the world and they went mad and destroyed everything. If they had lost to the Dark One, it wouldn’t necessarily have had the same result. Ishamael and the Forsaken thought they would rule the world as gods in the Dark Ones name. I think it is likely everything would have just ended, myself. The male half of the Source being tainted was the cost of victory. A temporary victory, but the kicker for LTT and his people is that the “Dragon” was never going to win the war against the Dark One. Only the “Dragon Reborn” could win for good. I think. It has been a while
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 1, 2023 5:39:26 GMT
Spoilermeme for 2e6 Those scenes were a hard watch, it has to be said. Got interrupted midway through e7, but e6 maintained a strong second season.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 1, 2023 7:36:39 GMT
S2E7 “We’re not in The Two Rivers anymore, Toto” Also known as The One Where They Went Really, Really Off Book I liked it, though. A lot. History of the connection between Moiraine and Siuan. The Foretelling being linked with the scenes from the finale of S1 on Dragonmount.
The off book stuff was good enough for me to have an open mind about it. Matt having a cup of tea with Ishamael and seeing his past lives. Lanfear strolling through Cairhein like a fucking boss. Rand unpicking the shield Ish had put on Moiraine.
All good stuff. It is still no Foundation…but this definitely stands on its own merits, for me, now. Really enjoying it.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 1, 2023 18:24:00 GMT
Lots going on, starting to wrap up the season. Made for a good ep though. Had some fun lines in it. Cauthon, "is this a sex thing or a murder thing?" Nynaeve when Loial meets Elayne, "get up, don't encourage her" "Your name sings in his ears. Now get up." *** Alanna's warder getting suspicious of Verin could lead somewhere interesting longer term. They do a good job showing Elayne is a leader. Egwene won the Farting Contest. Matt should've had enough experience to know when taking unknown hallucinogens to lay down in the bed first, then take the tea. Lanfear and Moiraine must have some good lines next ep.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 1, 2023 19:52:41 GMT
Lots going on, starting to wrap up the season. Made for a good ep though. Had some fun lines in it. Cauthon, "is this a sex thing or a murder thing?" Nynaeve when Loial meets Elayne, "get up, don't encourage her" "Your name sings in his ears. Now get up." *** Alanna's warder getting suspicious of Verin could lead somewhere interesting longer term. They do a good job showing Elayne is a leader. Egwene won the Farting Contest. Matt should've had enough experience to know when taking unknown hallucinogens to lay down in the bed first, then take the tea. Lanfear and Moiraine must have some good lines next ep. Re: Nynaeve and Elayne Yeah, wondering if it is just my more aged perspective, or if the show writers are actually better at conveying this than Jordan was, but those two are annoying me far less (to the point of not at all) than they did in the early books. Egwene Fuck you, dude - I was drinking my coffee when I read that. Farting contest Rand et al That will be a very interesting traveling group.
I imagine Moiraine and Lan will feel a bit like they're camping with a hungry tiger.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 3, 2023 11:53:26 GMT
disclaimer : sorry but i m pissed off and disappointed Watched ep 2 and 3 yesterday, slow start stayed slow, most scenes are not only boring but pissing me off, badly written and useless if not worst at time. I guess i m in a bad mood . Maybe watching s1 end just before starting s2 was a bad idea afterall. I loved a few scenes already mentionned, with the bad guy especially, and in the end the Nynaeve story of ep3. But god, following her walking around with close-ups and intense music while there s nothing happening at all ... It s also the case with Perin... Cant have scenes resting on those actors shoulders alone, please, needs a minimum content (only moiraine can do this in this show imo). It was the case with Egwene and also matt and even Rand. Cant see any good motive in any of the stories yet, except Egwene and maybe Moiraine. Well in fact, motives stay ok when unclear and then fall short until now. Also i m lacking some context for sure, even from the show, cant remember many stuff from s1, like the pull Moiraine would have on Liandrin and prisoner. i guess it s not enough to be pissed off ? I still want to see where this is going, but i m thinking stopping there and try and read the first book instead
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 3, 2023 15:33:30 GMT
I still want to see where this is going, but i m thinking stopping there and try and read the first book instead I mean, if you're not having fun with it I'd consider something else. There are so many great options out there to watch. *** Yeah, wondering if it is just my more aged perspective, or if the show writers are actually better at conveying this than Jordan was, but those two are annoying me far less (to the point of not at all) than they did in the early books. Ditto, 90% less braid pulling and whinging. Nynaeve was one of my least favourite and now she's... not bad. Elayne's significantly less petulant. (IIRC)
Part of it might be available time too, Jordan had endless chapters to cover every aspect of braid-pulling and alluding to his dominatrix fetish, that doesn't work in an 8 episode season.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 3, 2023 20:31:47 GMT
disclaimer : sorry but i m pissed off and disappointed Watched ep 2 and 3 yesterday, slow start stayed slow, most scenes are not only boring but pissing me off, badly written and useless if not worst at time. I guess i m in a bad mood . Maybe watching s1 end just before starting s2 was a bad idea afterall. I loved a few scenes already mentionned, with the bad guy especially, and in the end the Nynaeve story of ep3. But god, following her walking around with close-ups and intense music while there s nothing happening at all ... It s also the case with Perin... Cant have scenes resting on those actors shoulders alone, please, needs a minimum content (only moiraine can do this in this show imo). It was the case with Egwene and also matt and even Rand. Cant see any good motive in any of the stories yet, except Egwene and maybe Moiraine. Well in fact, motives stay ok when unclear and then fall short until now. Also i m lacking some context for sure, even from the show, cant remember many stuff from s1, like the pull Moiraine would have on Liandrin and prisoner. i guess it s not enough to be pissed off ? I still want to see where this is going, but i m thinking stopping there and try and read the first book instead Interesting. I liked S2E1, but E2 & E3 were amazing, for me. And, with the exception of E4 which plateaus a bit, they've all continued that trajectory. Only the finale to come. Different strokes, I guess.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 3, 2023 20:32:38 GMT
I still want to see where this is going, but i m thinking stopping there and try and read the first book instead I mean, if you're not having fun with it I'd consider something else. There are so many great options out there to watch. *** Yeah, wondering if it is just my more aged perspective, or if the show writers are actually better at conveying this than Jordan was, but those two are annoying me far less (to the point of not at all) than they did in the early books. Ditto, 90% less braid pulling and whinging. Nynaeve was one of my least favourite and now she's... not bad. Elayne's significantly less petulant. (IIRC)
Part of it might be available time too, Jordan had endless chapters to cover every aspect of braid-pulling and alluding to his dominatrix fetish, that doesn't work in an 8 episode season.
And 0% of runtime devoted to studies of the various shades of yellow and green in characters dresses.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 4, 2023 18:55:02 GMT
i really liked ep4 and 5, maybe rythm rised a bit or just the new characters were good and even great ! Also I was pissed off cause liking the show and expecting more after rewatching s1 ending. (and was in a speedy impatient mood this week) btw if you have time, i wonder how a future queen can become an aes sedai, seems mutually exclusive ? Looks a bit like Paul Atreides except Paul isn't going to join the girly guild Also rather disappointed the red blond aes sedai work with the bad guys (sorry, still sucking with name, Liandrin ? what a cool face btw), seemed pointing that way too much and IIRC we even got clear signs in the first epidodes that she was in fact genuilly on the good side (can expect the show to stay coherent i guess) , I now wait for her to play both sides for good reasons on the west army, the black boss vs the forsaken's girls holds a nice potential that i guess is well build and used in the book ? Feels like it will be rushed at least a bit, with that boss being too much dumb, but why not. BTW, can see why you could accept a world war game changing artefact from an unknown guy ? Or do i misunderstood the importance of the horn ?
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 4, 2023 19:23:59 GMT
Someone with more than half a working memory may clear this up better, but here's "IIRC"... btw if you have time, i wonder how a future queen can become an aes sedai, seems mutually exclusive ? Think of it like a Mage-King, or a War-Chief. A natural ability (to work magic or great swordsmanship) vs a profession. This works a couple ways. The Aes Sedai get their fingers sunk into top-level politics. The Queen gets necessary training and the benefits of being a member of the Tower. Together they are allied so that if one attacks the other, they can call both on an army and on Aes Sedai..
Also rather disappointed the red blond aes sedai work with the bad guys (sorry, still sucking with name, Liandrin ? what a cool face btw), seemed pointing that way too much and IIRC we even got clear signs in the first epidodes that she was in fact genuilly on the good side (can expect the show to stay coherent i guess) , I now wait for her to play both sides for good reasons Liandrin, again from what (little) I remember, is quite different from the books. So far I'd say she's one of the book changes that has been done very well. I don't really want to spoil anything as it seems she's got you guessing which for my part, is a good thing. Let's just say she's a bit more one-dimensional in the books. on the west army, the black boss vs the forsaken's girls holds a nice potential that i guess is well build and used in the book ? Feels like it will be rushed at least a bit, with that boss being too much dumb, but why not. BTW, can see why you could accept a world war game changing artefact from an unknown guy ? Or do i misunderstood the importance of the horn ? I barely remember the high lord from the books. I think he just suffers from not enough airtime. In terms of the weapon he gets, yes this is where the show falls short and the book explains things better. It's the Horn of Valere and it's as well known in their world as the pyramids are in ours. There's a spiritual aspect to it I won't go into but, yeah, it's a big deal. Part nuke, part religious relic. I can see the high lord getting kinda razzle-dazzled by having it all of a sudden in his possession. (Gift horse =/= Mouth) He very much knew it on sight and was probably cursing those stupid fingernails for taking so long to open it; like an impatient kid on Christmas that shook the box and knew it's exactly what he asked for.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 5, 2023 21:22:25 GMT
i really liked ep4 and 5, maybe rythm rised a bit or just the new characters were good and even great ! Also I was pissed off cause liking the show and expecting more after rewatching s1 ending. (and was in a speedy impatient mood this week) btw if you have time, i wonder how a future queen can become an aes sedai, seems mutually exclusive ? Looks a bit like Paul Atreides except Paul isn't going to join the girly guild Also rather disappointed the red blond aes sedai work with the bad guys (sorry, still sucking with name, Liandrin ? what a cool face btw), seemed pointing that way too much and IIRC we even got clear signs in the first epidodes that she was in fact genuilly on the good side (can expect the show to stay coherent i guess) , I now wait for her to play both sides for good reasons on the west army, the black boss vs the forsaken's girls holds a nice potential that i guess is well build and used in the book ? Feels like it will be rushed at least a bit, with that boss being too much dumb, but why not. BTW, can see why you could accept a world war game changing artefact from an unknown guy ? Or do i misunderstood the importance of the horn ? Yeah, like GoF said, it's sort of a hereditary/traditional thing. Andor is the most powerful nation on the continent, and their royal line is full of channeling women (and maybe men too, but that'd be kept quiet). From memory, Elayne's mother studied at the Tower (like nearly every woman in their line), but wasn't strong enough to actually achieve the ring and shawl to become an Aes Sedai. Elayne is one of the strongest in 'memory', and would probably be the strongest if it weren't also for Nynaeve and Egwene. The Horn is extremely important.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 6, 2023 10:10:17 GMT
S2E8 Hoo boy. Some very jumbled thoughts Lan and Moiraine back in the saddle, and finally got to see Lan actually be awesome in a fight. Feel like the show has done him dirty until now.
Mat went big brain with the dagger and I loved Fain’s reaction when he realised he’d been outmanoeuvred.
Was sort of stunned by how much I liked the encounter with Turok. “Let us see what earns the heron mark on this side of the ocean.” Ripped straight from the book. Then Rand was just, “nah. Lol.” And iced them all. Perfect.
Egwene has had a serious power upgrade from the books, but I guess that ties in to her also being ta’veren.
Rand looking up at Elayne with a sun halo around her was not the most subtle foreshadowing but whatever. The whole scene worked for me. Lanfear She is very different to what I know from the books. In some ways. There is a lot more emotion and attachment to Rand. And Ishamael. That was an odd choice, and it might be a throwaway one, given how it ends up.
Also, I love her. The Horn Fuck yes.
Best episode of a very strong season. Now the long wait for S3 begins.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 6, 2023 18:35:24 GMT
2e8 + Book spoils Lanfear blowing Moiraine out the gate was priceless. And apparently Lan doesn't fear Lanfear much. Who'd've guessed! Wow, Egwene hitting all the 90's tropes. First we get a Torture ep ala Star Trek TNG, Babylon 5, and a bunch of Whedon's stuff. Now she gets a scene devoted to changing her hair too like Babylon 5's Delenn (she got a whole episode) and when Riker/Sisko got the beards in Trek. Loial gives a good hero talk. Rand ended the discussion with the High Lord quick. Ingtar! Shit, dude went out screaming "for the Light and Shinowa!" Not expected. Fuck yeah Cauthon. Lateral thinking and personal license. And horn-blowing.
Episode was just all around awesome and packed. Good end to the season.
***
No kidding. Went from one iteration of "fuck yeah!" to the next. Was sort of stunned by how much I liked the encounter with Turok. “Let us see what earns the heron mark on this side of the ocean.” Ripped straight from the book. Then Rand was just, “nah. Lol.” And iced them all. Perfect. Ditto. SHE'S MINE! (I'd take her over Elayne/Av/Min personally. ) Said that the whole episode.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 6, 2023 20:36:11 GMT
A couple of less positive thoughts; The sweary Shienaran is bound to the Horn? Really? The cursing will continue until standards improve.
I was not prepared for Hopper. As in every muscle clenched in shock. That shit is not ok. Their face as the soul left the body and Perrin watched. Heartbreaking. And a question, re: the 3000 years ago scene… Did LTT and the others turn Ishy into one of the seals on the DOs prison?
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 6, 2023 21:11:53 GMT
And a question, re: the 3000 years ago scene… Did LTT and the others turn Ishy into one of the seals on the DOs prison? Maybe "bound into" rather than a directly turning him into one?
Yeah Hopper was sad.
It's interesting seeing all the friends get tested though. Egwene getting tortured but letting her torturer live. Cauthon and the dagger. But Perrin is the one that actually seems to be giving in. Curious where that goes. The Tinker woman was right about the axe.
I really hope we get to see some Cauthon humour next season. And Thom again.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 6, 2023 22:13:47 GMT
And a question, re: the 3000 years ago scene… Did LTT and the others turn Ishy into one of the seals on the DOs prison? Maybe "bound into" rather than a directly turning him into one?
Yeah Hopper was sad.
It's interesting seeing all the friends get tested though. Egwene getting tortured but letting her torturer live. Cauthon and the dagger. But Perrin is the one that actually seems to be giving in. Curious where that goes. The Tinker woman was right about the axe.
I really hope we get to see some Cauthon humour next season. And Thom again.
….Renna was alive..? I’ll have to rewatch that. She looked dead as a doornail to me. Unless you meant Valda?
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 6, 2023 23:56:14 GMT
Damnit errbear ate my reply. Renna, I think she's still alive cause A) Renna dies=Egwene dies right? B.) I thought she passed out but didn't kick the bucket yet.
I could be wrong though, which honestly would make things significantly more interesting. Well, as interesting as Egwene can be.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 7, 2023 6:00:00 GMT
Damnit errbear ate my reply. Renna, I think she's still alive cause A) Renna dies=Egwene dies right? B.) I thought she passed out but didn't kick the bucket yet.
I could be wrong though, which honestly would make things significantly more interesting. Well, as interesting as Egwene can be. Ah, I see. I die, you die applies in a one-way, suldam to damane direction. It was basically a game of chicken, and Renna blinked. They each held the leash for the other. Renna released Egwene (her bracelet fell to the ground and Egwene’s collar came off). Therefore, Egwene was no longer Renna’s damane, but still her suldam. So no murder-suicide. Another thing I thought of just before, that I found weird. Mogheidien is not pronounced how I said it in my head and now the show is ruined.
Hopefully I did ‘Toxic Fan’ right, there.
I don’t remember her being Drusilla from Buffy crazy in the books, and I know Lanfear wouldn’t have been afraid of her, given the disparity in their Power levels. Interesting changes from the source - heh - so I guess we just need to know if the fear was due to Moggies strength in the Power, the crazy, or both.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Oct 7, 2023 16:01:36 GMT
Ah, I see. I die, you die applies in a one-way, suldam to damane direction. It was basically a game of chicken, and Renna blinked. They each held the leash for the other. Renna released Egwene (her bracelet fell to the ground and Egwene’s collar came off). Therefore, Egwene was no longer Renna’s damane, but still her suldam. So no murder-suicide. Yeah game of chicken. Only Renna was hung up on a timer.
*** Another thing I thought of just before, that I found weird. Mogheidien is not pronounced how I said it in my head and now the show is ruined.
Hopefully I did ‘Toxic Fan’ right, there. Yes that do be how they do. DamanA did it for me. And to a lesser extent Shy-nar. Always thought of it as Sheenar in my head. Mind you, it was how Lanfear said her name. Maybe it's how it was pronounced in the old tongue?
*** I don’t remember her being Drusilla from Buffy crazy in the books I loved Dru, my first WoW warlock's personality was based off her. Used to trade people flowers and skulls for no reason. Spike is a favourite character in any medium. And arguably a bit of an, inspiration you could say... *** so I guess we just need to know if the fear was due to Moggies strength in the Power, the crazy, or both. Both TBF it might not be both, not bulk power. Mog got the drop on Lanfear this time, in a real contest who knows? It's also just a way for the show to demonstrate the new bigbads are a notch above. Which given Ishamael was the most powerful isn't quite true, but in quantity and malevolence they exceed him. He was the man with a plan and stuck to it. Even had a soft side with that kid and the Trolloc, even with Lanfear, and Lews. He had depth. Dunno if we'll see the same in the newsaken. I wonder if every Forsaken will have an "aspect" of sorts too. Lanfear was blood, Moghie is a spider. Who else, there was the guy that turned Elayne's mom into a puppet queen/waifu. Rahvin? That'll be interesting. Also cause I don't think I've said it yet, I'm sad we won't be seeing any more of Fares Fares' time onscreen much. He nailed his role. I liked his reasoning as well. To drop back to Buffy, end of S6 when Willow is the BigBad. She decides to destroy the world because she gets enough power to feel what everyone's feeling but all that gets through is pain and suffering. So she decides it's better to end it all. As villain-reasoning goes I liked it and this Ishamael seems to echo it some. He was the only "true believer".
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Post by Hier0phant on Oct 8, 2023 16:53:12 GMT
Work has kept me busy but i'll marathon this season soon.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 8, 2023 20:29:53 GMT
Something else - more for book readers, I guess - that I noticed at the time, but have been thinking about more. Can't remember which episode it was in, but Ishy said; To Lanfear - "Do you know why I woke you first?"
Lanfear - "Because Moghedien is insane, Graendal is a vainglorious fool and the boys couldn't enact a plan if they were under Compulsion."
So we get two female Forsaken name checked, then the rest lumped in together as 'the boys'. I didn't count the statues in the altar to the Forsaken where Lan & Moiraine camped, but we're missing two female Forsaken, right? Mesaana - who was embedded with either the Browns or the Whites - racism - at the White Tower, and Semirhage, who was with the Seanchan. I think it's unlikely they'd just remove two women without also balancing it out on the male side, so - probably Aginor and Balthamel get cut? They were the ones we got the least from in the books, due to them being cannon fodder at the Eye of the World, and that scene has already been and gone in the show. That leaves Rahvin, the Compulsion addicted blademaster, Sammael - the Betrayer of Hope, Demandred, Be-Lal and Asmodean.
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