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Post by griffith82 on Aug 22, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
Yeah your logic falls apart once you look at everyone pissed about no dlc. If they don't do a sequel it's Corporate suicide. CORPORATE SUICIDE. You think the die-hard fans of these games made up 90% of the game's sales? Get out of your delusional bubble. I'm sure there's lots of excitement for a new MEA game, that's why it got canned in the first place. You have no idea of what you're saying. A sequel had not been canned.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 22, 2017 16:54:34 GMT
CORPORATE SUICIDE. You think the die-hard fans of these games made up 90% of the game's sales? Get out of your delusional bubble. I'm sure there's lots of excitement for a new MEA game, that's why it got canned in the first place. You have no idea of what you're saying. A sequel had not been canned. I'm sure it's in the works too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 16:55:48 GMT
CORPORATE SUICIDE. You think the die-hard fans of these games made up 90% of the game's sales? Get out of your delusional bubble. I'm sure there's lots of excitement for a new MEA game, that's why it got canned in the first place. You have no idea of what you're saying. A sequel had not been canned. Pretty sure you need some real confirmation for that (maybe ask Jason Schreier). Everything that was put out by various outlets ended up being true even when Bioware denied it .
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 22, 2017 16:58:03 GMT
Did you interview everyone in the community about a remaster? No, a simple internet search will tell you that. And everyone knows a remaster would be better received than the sequel to the mess that was MEA. That's the consensus. You don't need to be that smart to know that. Though, you can't expect anything logical from the same people who thought a credible journalist was somehow trying to attack BioWare. Really? I'll bite. Post the Google search string which proves your case.
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Post by lee337 on Aug 22, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
Personally I would like to see either a remake or remaster of the original Mass Effect, but only if it's headed by Casey Hudson at Edmonton.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 22, 2017 17:09:46 GMT
No, a simple internet search will tell you that. And everyone knows a remaster would be better received than the sequel to the mess that was MEA. That's the consensus. You don't need to be that smart to know that. Though, you can't expect anything logical from the same people who thought a credible journalist was somehow trying to attack BioWare. Really? I'll bite. Post the Google search string which proves your case. Which string? If you can claim the internet was super negative to MEA before and after the game was out, this cannot? I don't know about you, but when I can, I look up to other places too than BSN since the same is worthless to gather anything, one side is incredibly biased and the other hyperbolic towards the game and anything else. The loudest places were Reddit and Gaf and then Youtube. I remember lots of people wanting a remaster announcement for the last N7 Day and being disappointed by it in the end, somewhat - since the trilogy got playable for Xbox owners, a heavily requested thing in that community alone. And now, with the cancellation for a sequel, people are demanding that remaster even more, the more logical bunch of those people associate that with the potential increase interest for a new ME game once its out, as well as introducing those who never played the series before to much bette games than the turd that was MEA. A common response in those three places I mentioned. But I'm sure you're going to bury your head inside your butt and pretend this ain't happening by any means.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 22, 2017 17:18:25 GMT
Unless they upgraded the combat in ME1 to match ME3 and changed the lighting in ME2 and ME3 to look more like ME1 I doubt I would dish out the cash for a remaster.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 22, 2017 17:22:18 GMT
At this point, I've played the trilogy and its subsequent add-ons so many times, How many times is so many times? I have a lot of incentive. I play it on my ps4 I would get 3 more platinum trophies. excellent Depends on what is done. I might like it. I might not.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 22, 2017 17:31:40 GMT
A sequel had not been canned. Pretty sure you need some real confirmation for that (maybe ask Jason Schreier). Everything that was put out by various outlets ended up being true even when Bioware denied it . There is nothing pointing to a sequel being canned.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 17:36:53 GMT
Pretty sure you need some real confirmation for that (maybe ask Jason Schreier). Everything that was put out by various outlets ended up being true even when Bioware denied it . There is nothing pointing to a sequel being canned. And as far as I'm aware there isn't confirmation for there being a sequel either. I think it'll be a wait and see on how well Anthem performs. There not going to slow down on Dragon Age which I believe is their new flagship.
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Post by gplayer on Aug 22, 2017 17:45:58 GMT
I voted no. It won't happen unless its in the context of creating an MP experience they can monetize - that is their only interest. Secondly, BW is a very different game than it was back when the OT was created. Its more integrated into EA now and I have zero faith that any re-imagining or re-mastering effort will be as good.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 22, 2017 17:46:13 GMT
Did you interview everyone in the community about a remaster? No, a simple internet search will tell you that. And everyone knows a remaster would be better received than the sequel to the mess that was MEA. That's the consensus. You don't need to be that smart to know that. Though, you can't expect anything logical from the same people who thought a credible journalist was somehow trying to attack BioWare. Okay thorough analysis of crying neckbeards, reddit, etc. then. got it. I thinka remaster would be cool, but given one over the other I'd rather have a sequel and a new story that continues in Andromeda--that's obviously better executed than this game was of course.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Aug 22, 2017 17:46:47 GMT
No. The MET is not old enough for a remaster. Only ME1 would really need a visual update, since it's 10 years old. Even then, at least for PC gamers, there are mods that update the visuals. I find the likelihood of a remaster even less likely at this point, given Andromeda's poor reception.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 22, 2017 17:49:41 GMT
Did you interview everyone in the community about a remaster? Are you here to agitate people... For asking proof?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 17:53:40 GMT
Are you here to agitate people... For asking proof? You actually responded to me.....Holy Shit!
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Post by SwobyJ on Aug 22, 2017 17:59:30 GMT
This order: -During A/DA4 process, release HD console remaster, with tweaks and all DLC (late 2010s) -Another Mass Effect game, sequel to Andromeda in some sense (early 2020s) -MET remake (mid 2020s) -Another Mass Effect game, either totally new or conclusion to whatever we'd call Andromeda arc (late 2020s)
Probably not going to happen, but I'd support this process. I don't think its time for a full trilogy remake, but I don't think it should be so much trouble (though it might be; I don't have the numbers and info) to repackage the trilogy, perhaps leading into a game later on that may on one hand be a continuation of what Andromeda started, but perhaps more overtly connect to the trilogy if at the very least to trigger those member berries.
And if both those things work out, then we get another sixth game in later 2020s, and perhaps a MET remake if the demand is there. But not now.
Or, of course the whole franchise is dead yadda yadda.
A remaster can be as simple as better audio and video graphics for the purpose of playing on a newer console (PS4/Pro, XB1/X). Ideally, yeah, it'd have redone parts, much better controls and animations, etc, but it doesn't have to. It strikes at people's nostalgia, and gauges interest for something more. A remake instead is a more deliberate thing that is more of an statement of knowledge that people want more, but they'd just prefer to trigger that nostalgia first for now.
I have no problem with imagining that a trilogy remaster happens before any future new game.
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Post by SwobyJ on Aug 22, 2017 18:13:56 GMT
I'd buy a remastered trilogy at $20, even $39, as long as it included all DLCs. I don't think I'd pay more. Yep. That squarely puts it in perfect impulse buy, but only if it includes all the add-ons, even the the very least of them. If I had a console (or even maybe for PC..) I'd even pay a full price ($60-70 or so) for a trilogy remaster, but it'd need to be like a super 'Director's Cut' thing, even with Casey being part of the marketing and all that sort of stuff. Edits, polished features, a strong redo of ME1's design. Really anything that makes it as much of a cohesive trilogy as possible, one that is relevant to 2010s gaming even if clearly not cutting edge of anything. If they want to tack on a MP somehow, or connective/microtransaction features, ugh whatever just don't mess with my SP. I think there's at least creative reason to make the MET more of a single product that flows better than now. Much more than many of the weird changes Lucas did with the original trilogy. Geez I wouldn't even mind if the Terminator Baby.. I mean Reaper Larvae or whatever was soft retconned into a bit of a more fitting form (still humanoidish, just not as lol). The question is whether there's economic reason.
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Post by SwobyJ on Aug 22, 2017 18:15:47 GMT
I definitely wouldn't mind a MET remaster done in Frostbite and properly scaled for high-end PCs. I just wouldn't pre-order or buy on launch day. A 'remaster' in Frostbite wouldn't be a remaster, but a remake. Too drastic of a change, down to the core. There's no way they would keep the content so untouched when doing an engine (and majority of assets) switch.
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Post by vonuber on Aug 22, 2017 18:17:40 GMT
Why exactly do people want exactly the same thing with slightly higher res textures? What's the point?
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 22, 2017 18:20:27 GMT
At this point, I've played the trilogy and its subsequent add-ons so many times, How many times is so many times? I have a lot of incentive. I play it on my ps4 I would get 3 more platinum trophies. excellent Depends on what is done. I might like it. I might not. Well, certainly not mikefest-level repeat plays but I'm pretty sure I've played the first game (completionist) runs several times, ME2 about as much in the end, and ME3 on a regular basis for years. I would sometimes start a new game of ME3 immediately after completing a run. I've essentially burned myself out on the original trilogy, which is part of the reason a remaster or whatever holds little value. A reboot may be of interest since it would have new dialogue and combat, but if we're going to do that, I'd rather everything just be new. The last thing I want is for the franchise to be in some kind of death loop game of telephone, where the timeline keeps resetting and repeating with the story being a little different each time. I was never really big on trophies/achievements so that wouldn't sell me much. I'd be more interested in being able to consolidate my library onto a single system, but Mass Effect isn't the only games of particularly high value that I'm holding on to, so basically the MET is being held hostage by Dragon Age.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 22, 2017 18:21:29 GMT
Really? I'll bite. Post the Google search string which proves your case. Which string? If you can claim the internet was super negative to MEA before and after the game was out, this cannot? I don't know about you, but when I can, I look up to other places too than BSN since the same is worthless to gather anything, one side is incredibly biased and the other hyperbolic towards the game and anything else. The loudest places were Reddit and Gaf and then Youtube. I remember lots of people wanting a remaster announcement for the last N7 Day and being disappointed by it in the end, somewhat - since the trilogy got playable for Xbox owners, a heavily requested thing in that community alone. And now, with the cancellation for a sequel, people are demanding that remaster even more, the more logical bunch of those people associate that with the potential increase interest for a new ME game once its out, as well as introducing those who never played the series before to much bette games than the turd that was MEA. A common response in those three places I mentioned. But I'm sure you're going to bury your head inside your butt and pretend this ain't happening by any means. So you've basically got nothing except for the same chatter we've had for a couple of years? Except even less now that backward compatibility is here?
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 22, 2017 18:36:47 GMT
A 'remaster' in Frostbite wouldn't be a remaster, but a remake. Too drastic of a change, down to the core. There's no way they would keep the content so untouched when doing an engine (and majority of assets) switch. Why would a change of engine change a game's content? Because a drastic engine change would require all the models to be built from scratch.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 22, 2017 18:39:28 GMT
And they've already got a lot of the races thanks to ME:A.
But the question isn't whether it's hard, the question is whether it would earn out.
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Post by SwobyJ on Aug 22, 2017 18:50:16 GMT
A 'remaster' in Frostbite wouldn't be a remaster, but a remake. Too drastic of a change, down to the core. There's no way they would keep the content so untouched when doing an engine (and majority of assets) switch. Why would a change of engine change a game's content? That's... I can't even answer that, its so funny to read.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 22, 2017 18:50:52 GMT
While I personally don't need it since I still own the orignal trilogy and I think the games look fine as they are it could give the franchise a shot in the arm that it needs and people will remember their love for the original trilogy. It could remind people of their love for the mass effect brand and if it sells decently well enough compared to remasters of other franchises it could indicate to corporate that people still have an interest in the brand. I think now maybe for the brand's sake it needs to happen.
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