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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 23, 2017 14:21:21 GMT
Given the original trilogy was made in Unreal Engine 3 and range between 5-10 years old, it would be a massive undertaking upgrading the games in Unreal Engine 4 (unlikely given EA's ownership of Frostbite) to meet modern standards, and 'porting' them over to Frostbite would more or less involve recreating them from scratch - people don't seem to get that you can't just straight-up transfer the entire game from UE3 to Frostbite and expect it to work. You'd literally be making the game from the ground up, only with a very strict plan of where everything should go. The only way it would be feasible is if the games simply recieved high-res textures and maybe some general improvements to lighting; anything more would require far too much work, because a lot of it would need to be done by hand. For example, many of the assets in ME1 likely exist (if they've been kept) in far higher quality than they were featured in the original game (being created in software such as maya or mudbox or Zbrush), but each and every one of them would need to be re-sourced from those assets, otherwise we'd be looking at the exact same models in our shiny modern resolutions, and I just can't see that selling. And that's before we get onto environments or special effects or swapping out textures for material based rendering. Just think of all those corridors that would potentially need to actually reflect their environment rather than relying on crude texture maps, or the areas with baked-in shadows that would now need real-time lighting so your characters aren't casting shadows on shadows. And all the hair that would need remodelling, and would the skin recieve subsurface scattering, and would the game use more advanced depth-of-field effects, and would they seek parity between all the OT games, meaning ME1 & 2 now need even more work, etc. etc. And let's not forget, as many did when comparing MEA to the OT - we're talking about three whole games here. There's just so so many things that would have to be effectively remade from scratch, and while it would certainly sell, I very much doubt it would even come close to covering it's production costs given the amount of work required to make it anything more than the original games looking no better than they did on PC with a couple of texture mods. tl;dr - the cost effective option likely wouldn't sell well, and upgrading/remaking the games would likely require more effort than just making a brand new game They'd also need to make sure it works. You don't want a repeat of what happened with the master chief collection for halo. They only got those 4.5 games out cause they sourced out to like 5 studios to all work on it together. Collections take time and A LOT of man power.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 23, 2017 15:07:17 GMT
Like making the keepers a bit sexier. Then we could have Kaidan II commenting that the entire station is like a strip club. Kaiden II? Alternate universe Kaidan, back from the dead for his second sacrifice.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 23, 2017 15:18:40 GMT
At this point, I've played the trilogy and its subsequent add-ons so many times, it would have to be dirt cheap for me to bother. Since I still have a functioning PS3 with both the trilogy + all DLC's and the first two Dragon Age games, I don't have much incentive to care about any kind of remaster, and little interest in retreading the old plot to get behind some kind of remake. On the subject of a remake, why does anyone really want this? For all the trilogy's problems, I was under the impression that people liked it a lot. I know there's a lot of shit that can get cut/pared down in refining a retelling of that story, but you just know that some things are lost forever (like Zaeed :sob: ), but the "magic" of learning the darker history of the Milky Way is pretty much spent. I'd rather BioWare create any kind of new singleplayer IP with a totally new world to build over recycling an old one and not even moving forward in time. My preference would be science fiction of some sort, like maybe some kind of Batman-Beyond-ish type of city backdrop, but I'll take what I can get so long as I can fight baddies and woo NPC's. Yes, a new IP would be better than a remaster , although the latter would motivate me to play ME1 which i've never done. Still, it's revisiting the Reapers and unfortunately their menacing aura has dimmed beyond recall, we are dismissing its claim. *sigh* Without the nonsense of ME3 three choices ending, a sequel taking place on Earth after ME3 would have been amazing . It's easy to imagine the chaos from which factions including all species (since they all came to Earth for the final push ) would probably strive to install a new order , some good, some evil. A new hero could have emerged and it would have paved the way for another trilogy with a clear link to the old one. ( i should have been president of BW in 2012 ) .
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 23, 2017 15:22:49 GMT
Alternate universe Kaidan, back from the dead for his second sacrifice. Ok now I'm lost.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 23, 2017 17:07:22 GMT
How much would it cost to remaster the trilogy? How long would it take to give it a new coat of paint? If they sell it for $60 that includes the 3 main games, all dlc and include the weapon and armor packs, would people buy it? Yes. How many? Don't know. I would be one of them.
Do I believe they will remaster the trilogy? At this moment, no. If Anthem is released in 2018 and the next DA game is released in 2019, what will happen in 2020? That could be a good year to release a remaster, if they wanted to. Don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 17:31:52 GMT
At this point, I've played the trilogy and its subsequent add-ons so many times, it would have to be dirt cheap for me to bother. Since I still have a functioning PS3 with both the trilogy + all DLC's and the first two Dragon Age games, I don't have much incentive to care about any kind of remaster, and little interest in retreading the old plot to get behind some kind of remake. On the subject of a remake, why does anyone really want this? For all the trilogy's problems, I was under the impression that people liked it a lot. I know there's a lot of shit that can get cut/pared down in refining a retelling of that story, but you just know that some things are lost forever (like Zaeed :sob: ), but the "magic" of learning the darker history of the Milky Way is pretty much spent. I'd rather BioWare create any kind of new singleplayer IP with a totally new world to build over recycling an old one and not even moving forward in time. My preference would be science fiction of some sort, like maybe some kind of Batman-Beyond-ish type of city backdrop, but I'll take what I can get so long as I can fight baddies and woo NPC's. Yes, a new IP would be better than a remaster , although the latter would motivate me to play ME1 which i've never done. Still, it's revisiting the Reapers and unfortunately their menacing aura has dimmed beyond recall, we are dismissing its claim. *sigh* Without the nonsense of ME3 three choices ending, a sequel taking place on Earth after ME3 would have been amazing . It's easy to imagine the chaos from which factions including all species (since they all came to Earth for the final push ) would probably strive to install a new order , some good, some evil. A new hero could have emerged and it would have paved the way for another trilogy with a clear link to the old one. ( i should have been president of BW in 2012 ) . DA2 tried to do just that. It went sooooo well.
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Post by AnDromedary on Aug 23, 2017 17:48:28 GMT
They can do one in 10 years, for the PS6 and X Box 1-2-3 XXX (or whatever that will be called ). Right now, I don't need it. I'd rather play the original MET with mods on PC.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 23, 2017 18:10:41 GMT
Yes, a new IP would be better than a remaster , although the latter would motivate me to play ME1 which i've never done. Still, it's revisiting the Reapers and unfortunately their menacing aura has dimmed beyond recall, we are dismissing its claim. *sigh* Without the nonsense of ME3 three choices ending, a sequel taking place on Earth after ME3 would have been amazing . It's easy to imagine the chaos from which factions including all species (since they all came to Earth for the final push ) would probably strive to install a new order , some good, some evil. A new hero could have emerged and it would have paved the way for another trilogy with a clear link to the old one. ( i should have been president of BW in 2012 ) . DA2 tried to do just that. It went sooooo well. you think it would fail because DA2 did ? And why did DA2 fail? Because of the concept ? good ideas aren't always well implemented.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 18:18:58 GMT
DA2 tried to do just that. It went sooooo well. you think it would fail because DA2 did ? And why did DA2 fail? Because of the concept ? good ideas aren't always well implemented. I don't know why DA2 or Andromeda "failed". Both are games I enjoyed, and would love to see more games like that; what other folks go on and on about... that's their problems, not mine. I come from the old guard, and that's exactly the kind of games I played and loved back when BiOWARE was not some huge phenomenon with millions of upset people criticizing every little thing. I don't play console games, the uber-animated novelizations 2,0000 hrs long with every rock having a description and a butterfly on top of it, or whatever else people are playing nowadays and like. I'd play DA2 like games, and MEA if it did not have anything but the central/planetary story and be perfectly satisfied. Chop Andromeda down to 30 hours, sell it for $40, take away the voicing from the main, make cutscenes static, and that's gonna be the kindda game I expect to play and have fun. Of course, that's exactly the games that apparently are a "failure" in the modern world. Yeah, I suppose BiOWARE failed because it made games I like, not what other people like & I don't. Well, I can't really say I am going to support other people's tastes over mine, because that makes zero sense. All it does is increase the cost of production, length of time in development and benefits me by exactly zero. I don't like Witcher and Inquisition, crafting, open worlds with exquisite landscaping stretching on for hours, insanely long games, animations and excessive voicing. Did not ask for it, so why should I side with those who do & want more, more, more and more and everything? Gimme a new game in a fresh setting, and sell me a DLC bundle pack for the MET, and I will happily replay MET as is, no re-masters required. Just maybe not ME1. Sure, ME setting is fine, chars are interesting, and all that, but I don't want to spend years and years in the same one anyway or replay the same game 10 times or like DA never see the end on the horizon and see the story endlessly resuscitated when it should have ended with Warden's US, and Hawke's general story should have been set in a completely different world to start with, different time period, different aesthetics, and no forced tie backs to Ferelden.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 23, 2017 19:54:07 GMT
ME1 maybe, especially since anyone playing on PlayStation never even got to play that game and create their own foundation. ME1's been on PS3 for a long while now.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 23, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
ME1's been on PS3 for a long while now. Yep. I believe it came out in Dec 2012 for the ps3
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 23, 2017 20:01:46 GMT
ME1 maybe, especially since anyone playing on PlayStation never even got to play that game and create their own foundation. ME1's been on PS3 for a long while now. Yes, but it obviously came out last to it and it didn't come with Pinnacle Station, though I hear (somewhat ironically, in hindsight) that it's focus is essentially sp horde mode.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 23, 2017 20:13:33 GMT
ME1's been on PS3 for a long while now. Yes, but it obviously came out last to it and it didn't come with Pinnacle Station, though I hear (somewhat ironically, in hindsight) that it's focus is essentially sp horde mode. coming without Pinnacle Station is a feature
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 23, 2017 20:39:32 GMT
ME1's been on PS3 for a long while now. Yes, but it obviously came out last to it and it didn't come with Pinnacle Station, though I hear (somewhat ironically, in hindsight) that it's focus is essentially sp horde mode. I watched Pinnacle's gameplay on YouTube. Normally I'd be annoyed at any DLC being unavailable for my platform, but I can make an exception here.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 23, 2017 21:01:01 GMT
Yes, but it obviously came out last to it and it didn't come with Pinnacle Station, though I hear (somewhat ironically, in hindsight) that it's focus is essentially sp horde mode. I watched Pinnacle's gameplay on YouTube. Normally I'd be annoyed at any DLC being unavailable for my platform, but I can make an exception here. Yeah. I read somewhere that they experimented with MP for ME1 but it didn't work out so Pinnacle Station was born. I've played it twice and it had an interesting concept especially playing the first contact war. Not interesting enough for multiple play throughs.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Aug 23, 2017 21:09:51 GMT
Remastered Trilogy? Though this may be at first a good idea. I doubt they actually would. People would definitely hear about it. And the same debate with ME3's ending(s) would uproar happen all over again. Doubt they would want such publicity.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 23, 2017 21:34:50 GMT
you think it would fail because DA2 did ? And why did DA2 fail? Because of the concept ? good ideas aren't always well implemented. I don't know why DA2 or Andromeda "failed". Both are games I enjoyed, and would love to see more games like that; what other folks go on and on about... that's their problems, not mine. I come from the old guard, and that's exactly the kind of games I played and loved back when BiOWARE was not some huge phenomenon with millions of upset people criticizing every little thing. I don't play console games, the uber-animated novelizations 2,0000 hrs long with every rock having a description and a butterfly on top of it, or whatever else people are playing nowadays and like. I'd play DA2 like games, and MEA if it did not have anything but the central/planetary story and be perfectly satisfied. Chop Andromeda down to 30 hours, sell it for $40, take away the voicing from the main, make cutscenes static, and that's gonna be the kindda game I expect to play and have fun. Of course, that's exactly the games that apparently are a "failure" in the modern world. Yeah, I suppose BiOWARE failed because it made games I like, not what other people like & I don't. Well, I can't really say I am going to support other people's tastes over mine, because that makes zero sense. All it does is increase the cost of production, length of time in development and benefits me by exactly zero. I don't like Witcher and Inquisition, crafting, open worlds with exquisite landscaping stretching on for hours, insanely long games, animations and excessive voicing. Did not ask for it, so why should I side with those who do & want more, more, more and more and everything? Gimme a new game in a fresh setting, and sell me a DLC bundle pack for the MET, and I will happily replay MET as is, no re-masters required. Just maybe not ME1. Sure, ME setting is fine, chars are interesting, and all that, but I don't want to spend years and years in the same one anyway or replay the same game 10 times or like DA never see the end on the horizon and see the story endlessly resuscitated when it should have ended with Warden's US, and Hawke's general story should have been set in a completely different world to start with, different time period, different aesthetics, and no forced tie backs to Ferelden. we all have our preferences. I like long games, and animated cutscenes . I think 100 hours plus is a bit overdone, but a 60-70 hours game feels just fine to me.
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Post by laughingbanana on Aug 24, 2017 9:20:50 GMT
If they ever release a trilogy remaster for the PS4, I will buy that shit so fast in a heartbeat, and this is coming from a guy who bought all the trilogies with all their DLCs twice for Xbox360 and PS3.
Heck, I would buy it even if they release them as is without any improvement whatsoever, as long as its playable in PS4 with no issues. That's just how big of a value I put upon my fondness towards me experiencing and playing the trilogy during the last gen.
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