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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 17:19:53 GMT
So the second set of pictures (I know the one on the right is real) but the left isn't in-engine? If not, why? Why do that? I was amazed by Fallout 4's trailer... UNTIL I realized that the super mutants were actors and not CGI out from the engine. Someone else said that. They look better than the screenshots I've seen posted in reviews so I believed it, but I can't confirm. If I was a marketer who wanted to showcase a game, give the straight up goods. Let the consumer know: WYSIWYG. So what if it doesn't look as good as the competition? It's execution. You execute with what you have and you're always going to win. ALWAYS. Not everytime big payouts, but you earn trust and a comfortable relationship with the end-user. That's how I think. I'm old and out-of-touch sometimes, but basic courtesy and trust never goes out of fashion.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 17:22:40 GMT
Hellblade is amazing. OMG. The computer shop in Kermit let me use their connection for a few bucks. I was still at 9% on Steam this morning. And yeah... it's well-executed. I hate playing a non-customized protagonist, but for $29.99... this studio just earned a new customer.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 18:49:47 GMT
They learned nothing from ME3, not with the campaign, not with the multiplayer. It is like if Bioware outsourced Andromeda to a completely new company, that happened to be terrible at making RPGs. The SP was a step down, the MP was also a step down. And when the boat merely looks like it's not floating well, they flee and move on to something else. I wouldn't have my hopes high for they actually learning anything from previous experiences. Really? They learned NOTHING from ME 3? Not that when writing an ending you better make sure it's logically consistent and does not write you into a corner. Not that some fans really hated the oodles upon oodles of darkness in the game and a lighter tone might do better? Not that the corridor shooters might be antithetical to how Bioware makes games? Not that butchering your dialogue wheel is a bad idea and players want more options and control? Not that you shouldn't fill your game with pointless sidequests which ultimately do not effect the narrative or the world at all except for mathematically? Nope...nothing.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 18:58:21 GMT
They learned nothing from ME3, not with the campaign, not with the multiplayer. It is like if Bioware outsourced Andromeda to a completely new company, that happened to be terrible at making RPGs. The SP was a step down, the MP was also a step down. And when the boat merely looks like it's not floating well, they flee and move on to something else. I wouldn't have my hopes high for they actually learning anything from previous experiences. Really? They learned NOTHING from ME 3? Not that when writing an ending you better make sure it's logically consistent and does not write you into a corner. Not that some fans really hated the oodles upon oodles of darkness in the game and a lighter tone might do better? Not that the corridor shooters might be antithetical to how Bioware makes games? Not that butchering your dialogue wheel is a bad idea and players want more options and control? Not that you shouldn't fill your game with pointless sidequests which ultimately do not effect the narrative or the world at all except for mathematically? Nope...nothing. Are you seriously trying to say that MEA is superior to ME3?
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 19:01:01 GMT
Really? They learned NOTHING from ME 3? Not that when writing an ending you better make sure it's logically consistent and does not write you into a corner. Not that some fans really hated the oodles upon oodles of darkness in the game and a lighter tone might do better? Not that the corridor shooters might be antithetical to how Bioware makes games? Not that butchering your dialogue wheel is a bad idea and players want more options and control? Not that you shouldn't fill your game with pointless sidequests which ultimately do not effect the narrative or the world at all except for mathematically? Nope...nothing. Are you seriously trying to say that MEA is superior to ME3? yes. I mean when have i not?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 26, 2017 19:06:27 GMT
They learned nothing from ME3, not with the campaign, not with the multiplayer. It is like if Bioware outsourced Andromeda to a completely new company, that happened to be terrible at making RPGs. The SP was a step down, the MP was also a step down. And when the boat merely looks like it's not floating well, they flee and move on to something else. I wouldn't have my hopes high for they actually learning anything from previous experiences. Really? They learned NOTHING from ME 3? Not that when writing an ending you better make sure it's logically consistent and does not write you into a corner. Not that some fans really hated the oodles upon oodles of darkness in the game and a lighter tone might do better? Not that the corridor shooters might be antithetical to how Bioware makes games? Not that butchering your dialogue wheel is a bad idea and players want more options and control? Not that you shouldn't fill your game with pointless sidequests which ultimately do not effect the narrative or the world at all except for mathematically? Nope...nothing. People had issues with the tone of the game? A game about war and destruction? A game that had the buildup to what the reapers were capable of causing? If it was about other stuff with no emphasis on war I could get the lighter tone approach but you don't go lighter on a game about war, gears fans would be laughing seeing that happen to their games. The tone is part of what made it even more emotional as well. id say they still haven't learned from the side quest issue either cause going open world just invited 50+ random pointless quests with no relevance to the story.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 19:15:31 GMT
Really? They learned NOTHING from ME 3? Not that when writing an ending you better make sure it's logically consistent and does not write you into a corner. Not that some fans really hated the oodles upon oodles of darkness in the game and a lighter tone might do better? Not that the corridor shooters might be antithetical to how Bioware makes games? Not that butchering your dialogue wheel is a bad idea and players want more options and control? Not that you shouldn't fill your game with pointless sidequests which ultimately do not effect the narrative or the world at all except for mathematically? Nope...nothing. People had issues with the tone of the game? A game about war and destruction? A game that had the buildup to what the reapers were capable of causing? If it was about other stuff with no emphasis on war I could get the lighter tone approach but you don't go lighter on a game about war, gears fans would be laughing seeing that happen to their games. The tone is part of what made it even more emotional as well. id say they still haven't learned from the side quest issue either cause going open world just invited 50+ random pointless quests with no relevance to the story. you've had war centric comedies in the past so anything's possible. But to the specific point i had a good friend of mine call ME 3 specifically the red headed step child of the series because of the darkness. And while i wouldn't go that far i found the darkness in the game at times to be poorly done and antithetical to the tone of the first two games. As to the second...sure...but i didn't say all the side content had to matter...just some of it. And a lot of it mattered for the ending of MEA.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2017 19:18:51 GMT
The ending of MEA is a great example of Bioware learning from their past since it had pretty much everything people complained that the ending of ME3 did not. Most notably all your connections showing up and helping in the final battle unlike ME3.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 26, 2017 19:33:01 GMT
Meh. Ever see a Fallout 2 speedrun?
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 19:35:39 GMT
Are you seriously trying to say that MEA is superior to ME3? yes. I mean when have i not? Wow. That's some hardcore denial there.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2017 19:39:26 GMT
yes. I mean when have i not? Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. How is it denial? Which game is better is a subjective opinion.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 19:48:23 GMT
Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. How is it denial? Which game is better is a subjective opinion. Saying E.T. The Game is the greatest entertainment media ever created is also technically subjective as well. Good luck finding any sane person to agree.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2017 19:51:42 GMT
How is it denial? Which game is better is a subjective opinion. Saying E.T. The Game is the greatest entertainment media ever created is also technically subjective as well. Good luck finding any sane person to agree. So only your opinion is correct and anyone who disagrees is insane. Gotcha.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 19:54:25 GMT
Saying E.T. The Game is the greatest entertainment media ever created is also technically subjective as well. Good luck finding any sane person to agree. So only your opinion is correct and anyone who disagrees is insane. Gotcha. Right. Because that's what I said.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2017 19:55:57 GMT
So only your opinion is correct and anyone who disagrees is insane. Gotcha. Right. Because that's what I said. You are accusing anyone who disagrees with your opinion as being in serious denial, so yes that is what you said.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 20:10:18 GMT
yes. I mean when have i not? Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. first off Thanks for giving us ANOTHER reason to have the 'opinion' conversation. Secondly is what i find curious about these types of comments is those who make them often don't do an actual rebuttal or bring evidence to the table. Just a sim p le 'you're crazy'.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 20:56:54 GMT
Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. first off Thanks for giving us ANOTHER reason to have the 'opinion' conversation. Secondly is what i find curious about these types of comments is those who make them often don't do an actual rebuttal or bring evidence to the table. Just a sim p le 'you're crazy'. ME3 had a much better story, much better main character, much better companions, much better facial animations, much more diverse aliens and better multiplayer. I could go on but why bother.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 26, 2017 20:59:43 GMT
first off Thanks for giving us ANOTHER reason to have the 'opinion' conversation. Secondly is what i find curious about these types of comments is those who make them often don't do an actual rebuttal or bring evidence to the table. Just a sim p le 'you're crazy'. Accurate! Let's see: ME3 vs ME:A. Again: ME3 vs ME:A. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Post by anarchy65 on Aug 26, 2017 21:06:50 GMT
To learn a lesson, you first must admit you were wrong, something that Bioware, EA and a lot of people here seem unwilling to do.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Aug 26, 2017 21:18:30 GMT
yes. I mean when have i not? Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. How childish.
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 26, 2017 21:18:54 GMT
The fact some people already left Bioware and Casey Hudson return point to EA learning lessons from all this mess, yes.
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Post by abaris on Aug 26, 2017 21:30:11 GMT
To learn a lesson, you first must admit you were wrong, something that Bioware, EA and a lot of people here seem unwilling to do. Some people liked it. There's nothing to say about that. But EA is aware of what they published and how it failed to convince a solid portion of the ME fanbase. But they probably didn't learn the lesson the fanbase wanted them to learn. They will take the path of least resistance in the future. Meaning, online, online and more online. Cashing in on microtransactions and that's about it. Probably coupled with an SP figleave to draw in the credulous. That's why I have little hope for a possiible DA4. It's not even officially announced and can swing either way. I don't think it will get the multi million dollar budget it deserves. And I fear it will be pushed out the door in as little time as possible to cash in on the brand name. What still remains to be seen is how big the MEA fallout will be. They commited PR suicide with their announcement. Noone can be sure anymore that they will get a finished SP game anymore.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Aug 26, 2017 21:32:51 GMT
The only lessons that EA learns are the ones that affect monetary income. Bioware tends to overcompensate and incompetently so most of the time.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 22:02:07 GMT
Wow. That's some hardcore denial there. How childish.
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Post by warrior on Aug 26, 2017 22:07:03 GMT
To learn a lesson, you first must admit you were wrong, something that Bioware, EA and a lot of people here seem unwilling to do. Some people liked it. There's nothing to say about that. But EA is aware of what they published and how it failed to convince a solid portion of the ME fanbase. But they probably didn't learn the lesson the fanbase wanted them to learn. They will take the path of least resistance in the future. Meaning, online, online and more online. Cashing in on microtransactions and that's about it. Probably coupled with an SP figleave to draw in the credulous. That's why I have little hope for a possiible DA4. It's not even officially announced and can swing either way. I don't think it will get the multi million dollar budget it deserves. And I fear it will be pushed out the door in as little time as possible to cash in on the brand name.What still remains to be seen is how big the MEA fallout will be. They commited PR suicide with their announcement. Noone can be sure anymore that they will get a finished SP game anymore. Well, that's a depressing thought.
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