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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 26, 2017 0:38:06 GMT
The idea that mean people on the internet killed your game out of spite based primarily on latent bitterness from the ME3 ending, are some serious cherry-picking mother fuckers. Never mind that many of us, after being disappointed by that ending, were absolutely burnt by the disappointment that was DAI. Still haven't gotten further than the introduction on several second playthroughs... It is just a bore. PC controls, shit AI, but OOH SHINY! It sounds like you agree that there were a couple of reasons why a lot of people would be predisposed to take a dim view of MEA. As for cherry picking, there was quite a bit of that with the memes that circulated. Agreed. It is the unfortunate reality in which most of us live. We do have another option, though, and that is to support indies and other people with a passion for their craft instead of the bottom line. I do believe that a lot of individuals with those characteristics are still employed by the conglomerates, however. Balanced post, no real argument with that. I had definitely changed from a take my money BioWare please to Biowerpls make a good game. That's why I canceled my 20% discount offer from Amazon Prime. I did want my friends tell me I had to buy the game and join them. It. Never. Happened.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 0:42:16 GMT
No. They're still full of crap. As a matter of fact, they can't be trusted. History dictated by each title, DLC is already in the plans. Since EA decided to chop up stories to make DLC, the fact that MEA has open plotlines and DLC was killed just proves that EA doesn't understand the fanbase, the franchises themselves and their own employees. In light of EA's horrible marketing and PR decisions, I just have one thing to say as a fan who is tired of getting disappointed: F*** YOU EA! F*** YOU AND YOUR BULLCRAP. YOU'RE LIARS, CON ARTISTS and YOU'RE JUST USING THE FANBASE TO JUSTIFY YOUR BLOATED SALARIES. The only golden era I see are the showers you're spraying on your loyal customers.
Now you sound like Addison . None of your expectations panned out, they're a bust. Is your face tired? =) ROFL... yes That was savage and funny.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 3:35:44 GMT
What is the second game. Holy cow. Is that real or some ad crap?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Aug 26, 2017 3:50:32 GMT
@op - After years of bitching and moaning on forums (you do a lot of that) - then being ignored - you'd think it'd sink in. They're just not that in to you. They're in to your dollars, that's it. They'll make games and experiment with them to see what makes them money. The paragraphs and tears spilt on forums, waste of time if the purpose is to try and "educate" a large company like EA. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by bakgrind on Aug 26, 2017 3:50:55 GMT
What is the second game. Holy cow. Is that real or some ad crap? That's HELLBLADE: SENUA'S SACRIFICE . That appears to be some add stuff. But in game character facials is rather good for a $30.00 game . It has some really good reviews as well.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 4:01:56 GMT
What is the second game. Holy cow. Is that real or some ad crap? That's HELLBLADE: SENUA'S SACRIFICE . That appears to be some add stuff. But in game character facials is rather good for a $30.00 game . It has some really good reviews as well. Sold. Word of mouth still matters. It's not something I would actively look for, hence, my ignorance. However... WTF. Badass.
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Post by goishen on Aug 26, 2017 4:03:08 GMT
About gamermd, meh. I could really care less. I watched her videos about quitting all the way through. But meh. I couldn't even bring myself to watch the ending of the game. I just didn't care about the characters, about the love interests, about WTF we were there, in other words, it lost me at the start.
This does not mean, to EA and all subsidiaries, to create a hook and then put nothing in your games. Do that and I'll be even more pissed. You think you've seen hell now? Whoah, if you do this, just wait.
About Hellblade, it looks like an awesome game. I've thought about picking it up, but my backlog of games keeps me from doing it.
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Post by bakgrind on Aug 26, 2017 4:37:08 GMT
Sold. Word of mouth still matters. It's not something I would actively look for, hence, my ignorance. However... WTF. Badass. Yeah, I'm downloading it now from steam. Looks like it will be one of those all night gaming sessions
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 4:57:09 GMT
Sold. Word of mouth still matters. It's not something I would actively look for, hence, my ignorance. However... WTF. Badass. Yeah, I'm downloading it now from steam. Looks like it will be one of those all night gaming sessions It can run on this beast. Holy cow. Tequila, cooler weather and SLOW AS HELL WIFI CONNECTION. UGH. The computer shop is closed. Dang it. At sunrise, it will be done I bet.
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Post by cmoe on Aug 26, 2017 5:25:25 GMT
Sold. Word of mouth still matters. It's not something I would actively look for, hence, my ignorance. However... WTF. Badass. Yeah, I'm downloading it now from steam. Looks like it will be one of those all night gaming sessions It does look good. I wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts after you play it.
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Post by warrior on Aug 26, 2017 5:37:22 GMT
What is the second game. Holy cow. Is that real or some ad crap? That's HELLBLADE: SENUA'S SACRIFICE . That appears to be some add stuff. But in game character facials is rather good for a $30.00 game . It has some really good reviews as well. Oh, now I'm excited. And it's on PS4!!! I love her facepaint too. She looks like pretty much what I would have aimed to make if there was a CC.
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Post by warrior on Aug 26, 2017 5:42:04 GMT
Oh dearie dear... This thread has delivered. I wanted to shred several posts, but it seems the most absurd comments have been intentionally ignored. The BioDrone swarm is fascinating, both sad and funny. The idea that mean people on the internet killed your game out of spite based primarily on latent bitterness from the ME3 ending, are some serious cherry-picking mother fuckers. Never mind that many of us, after being disappointed by that ending, were absolutely burnt by the disappointment that was DAI. Still haven't gotten further than the introduction on several second playthroughs... It is just a bore. PC controls, shit AI, but OOH SHINY! The fact is: no, EA/BW will learn nothing from this, because they knew all along what you people have to eventually realize - Corporations are not people, and if they are a publicly traded company profit is their only motivation. By investing in corporations, and celebrating profit over people, we land in this wasteland. Profiteering is killing gaming, killing the environment, killing us.
Yet, some of you celebrate it. Nothing but contempt for ya.Same.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 5:54:35 GMT
that meme is overplayed to the point of absurdity.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 26, 2017 6:14:15 GMT
I don't think they learned the lesson we were hoping for. I think instead they'll disregard our desire for more SP and focus on MP.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2017 7:13:25 GMT
I don't think they learned the lesson we were hoping for. I think instead they'll disregard our desire for more SP and focus on MP. Could be.
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Post by rras1994 on Aug 26, 2017 8:56:18 GMT
that meme is overplayed to the point of absurdity. Yeah, like seriously?? People are going to compare a fixed protag of an 8 hr game to a npc in a 100 hr rpg?? Like how is that reasonable?
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 26, 2017 15:21:55 GMT
Especially when those aren't even real Hellblade screenshots. Meme culture sucks.
But yeah, there is something wrong on the Nexus. Too much bloom, maybe? I feel about that the way I used to feel about lens flare.
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 26, 2017 15:30:28 GMT
They learned nothing from ME3, not with the campaign, not with the multiplayer. It is like if Bioware outsourced Andromeda to a completely new company, that happened to be terrible at making RPGs. The SP was a step down, the MP was also a step down. And when the boat merely looks like it's not floating well, they flee and move on to something else.
I wouldn't have my hopes high for they actually learning anything from previous experiences.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 26, 2017 17:03:37 GMT
Especially when those aren't even real Hellblade screenshots. Meme culture sucks. But yeah, there is something wrong on the Nexus. Too much bloom, maybe? I feel about that the way I used to feel about lens flare. So the second set of pictures (I know the one on the right is real) but the left isn't in-engine? If not, why? Why do that? I was amazed by Fallout 4's trailer... UNTIL I realized that the super mutants were actors and not CGI out from the engine.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 26, 2017 17:05:31 GMT
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice by developer Ninja Theory. It's very impressive that a private company with ~150 employees can produce a higher quality game than a studio wholly owned by multi-billionaire, largest publisher in the industry EA. Same side of that coin, DICE/Motive's Battlefront 2 looks very impressive, as well. This is not exactly a widespread EA problem.
It all points to BioWare Montreal being a garbage, poorly run studio.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 26, 2017 17:08:27 GMT
They learned nothing from ME3, not with the campaign, not with the multiplayer. It is like if Bioware outsourced Andromeda to a completely new company, that happened to be terrible at making RPGs. The SP was a step down, the MP was also a step down. And when the boat merely looks like it's not floating well, they flee and move on to something else. I wouldn't have my hopes high for they actually learning anything from previous experiences. I was going to post something to this effect, but now I don't have to
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 26, 2017 17:12:46 GMT
Especially when those aren't even real Hellblade screenshots. Meme culture sucks. But yeah, there is something wrong on the Nexus. Too much bloom, maybe? I feel about that the way I used to feel about lens flare. So the second set of pictures (I know the one on the right is real) but the left isn't in-engine? If not, why? Why do that? I was amazed by Fallout 4's trailer... UNTIL I realized that the super mutants were actors and not CGI out from the engine. Someone else said that. They look better than the screenshots I've seen posted in reviews so I believed it, but I can't confirm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 17:15:46 GMT
Interesting you mention this OP. I just watched this interesting video and if the thesis provided is right then NO they are not learning but we the Players should learn a thing or two.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 17:16:32 GMT
that meme is overplayed to the point of absurdity. Yeah, like seriously?? People are going to compare a fixed protag of an 8 hr game to a npc in a 100 hr rpg?? Like how is that reasonable? And yet you can speedrun them both in just over 2 hours. Goes to show how much fluff is in ME:A... www.speedrun.com/hellbladewww.speedrun.com/masseffectandromeda
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